Author Topic: Hold on to your wallets! "There are irregularities with October's PP royalties" (Read 98851 times)

mlwinphoto · « **Reply #225 on:** January 15, 2014, 20:00 »

Quote from: stockastic on January 15, 2014, 16:30

Quote from: mlwinphoto on January 15, 2014, 16:15
I found that the easiest way is to just close your account.....quite liberating, actually.

Yes, it's time. I've been hunting around the site, looking for a way to do that, without success. Let me guess: I have to create a support ticket?

Support ticket it is.

mlwinphoto · « **Reply #226 on:** January 15, 2014, 20:01 »

Quote from: Ron on January 15, 2014, 16:47

Quote from: mlwinphoto on January 15, 2014, 16:15
Quote from: Ron on January 15, 2014, 16:13
Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on January 15, 2014, 16:10
Quote from: Ron on January 15, 2014, 15:55
Is there a working version of Seans script to deactivate files? I cant find a working link.

I don't think it works any more. Maybe someone with access to IS can modify it. They probably just changed a column name or something.
http://digitalplanetdesign.com/scripts/IS_addDeactivationColumn.user.js
So I need to manually deactivate my 80 images, ok, I guess its not that much work.

Thanks anyway.

I found that the easiest way is to just close your account.....quite liberating, actually.
The script still works, just deactivated all images. I dont want them to sell one more, and then opened a support ticket to close my account. Its done. I am out of there.

The refund notice I got today finally got me to do it.

Atta way, Ron. Feel better now? I sure do.

Ron · « **Reply #227 on:** January 16, 2014, 02:13 »

Yep, I remember really wanting to get accepted by Istock, what a disappointment it turned out to be.

Copidosoma · « **Reply #228 on:** January 16, 2014, 13:25 »

"red herring" removed

Sorry folks, carry on...

ShadySue · « **Reply #229 on:** January 16, 2014, 13:35 »

That post conveniently only references one specific usage of the word recoupment, and is a total Red Herring in this context.

The Free Dictionary, as my first Google search result shows:

re·coup (r-kp)
v. re·couped, re·coup·ing, re·coups
v.tr.
1. To receive an equivalent for; make up for: recoup a loss. See Synonyms at recover.
2. To return as an equivalent for; reimburse.
3. Law To deduct or withhold (part of something due) for an equitable reason.
v.intr.
To regain a former favorable position.
n.
The act of recouping.
[Middle English recoupen, to cut short, from Old French recouper, to cut back : re-, re- + couper, to cut (from coup, blow; see coup).]
re·coupa·ble adj.
re·coupment n.
which is the only meaning I know of the term, not the music one.

Ron · « **Reply #230 on:** January 16, 2014, 13:40 »

What Chris explains is correct as well.

ShadySue · « **Reply #231 on:** January 16, 2014, 13:42 »

Quote from: Ron on January 16, 2014, 13:40

What Chris explains is correct as well.

Yes, but totally irrelevant to this matter.

Red Dove · « **Reply #232 on:** January 16, 2014, 15:07 »

Since nobody at Istock works on the weekend (apart from the cleaning lady) I assume their "next week" update will occur sometime before 17:30 hours tomorrow.

If that fails, it would be a nice gesture if they could start rolling out the December PP earnings this weekend. If only to give us a few minutes to look at them before they are snatched away again.

Noedelhap · « **Reply #233 on:** January 17, 2014, 07:30 »

What happened to: "somewhere next week we'll send everyone an e-mail"?

gillian vann · « **Reply #234 on:** January 17, 2014, 08:51 »

still no comment from tickstock? my popcorn has gone cold waiting...

dingles · « **Reply #235 on:** January 17, 2014, 09:42 »

Quote from: gillian on January 17, 2014, 08:51

still no comment from tickstock? my popcorn has gone cold waiting...

Maybe this is something even he cannot defend

Red Dove · « **Reply #236 on:** January 17, 2014, 10:47 »

Quote from: gillian on January 17, 2014, 08:51

still no comment from tickstock? my popcorn has gone cold waiting...

Tickstock has been assimilated by the collective known as Istock. His biological and technological distinctiveness has been added to their own. Resistance is futile.

dingles · « **Reply #237 on:** January 17, 2014, 11:43 »

Quote from: Red Dove on January 17, 2014, 10:47

Quote from: gillian on January 17, 2014, 08:51
still no comment from tickstock? my popcorn has gone cold waiting...

Tickstock has been assimilated by the collective known as Istock. His biological and technological distinctiveness has been added to their own. Resistance is futile.

We already knew that

lisafx · « **Reply #238 on:** January 17, 2014, 13:01 »

Quote from: gillian on January 17, 2014, 08:51

still no comment from tickstock? my popcorn has gone cold waiting...

Well, his "cover" has pretty much been blown. It's now widely known/believed that he's a Getty employee pushing their agenda in the guise of an objective contributor. When he magically disappeared over the same period that Istock employees were on holiday break, that pretty much sealed it.

Now they have two choices - send him or someone else in under a new screen identity (and maybe be less OBVIOUS this time). Or perhaps they've realized there's nothing they can do to win over our "hearts and minds" while they keep screwing us, and have given up.

bunhill · « **Reply #239 on:** January 17, 2014, 13:32 »

Quote from: lisafx on January 17, 2014, 13:01

Well, his "cover" has pretty much been blown. It's now widely known/believed that he's a Getty employee pushing their agenda in the guise of an objective contributor.

You were also convinced at one point that I was part of this conspiracy. Anyhow: widely known/believed by who ? I doubt that more than 10 people in the whole world care.

I think that some people get annoyed and sometimes become quite unfriendly when others have a point of view which contradicts their own. Which is a pity because it discourages free speech.

So let's hope he comes back soon. The site needs posters representing a variety of different perspectives and experiences.

Red Dove · « **Reply #240 on:** January 17, 2014, 13:43 »

He's been recoupmentated - whatever that means.

Having said that, I agree with Bunhill.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #241 on:** January 17, 2014, 13:51 »

Quote from: bunhill on January 17, 2014, 13:32

...The site needs posters representing a variety of different perspectives and experiences.

True, but I hardly think tickstock's ranting qualified as perspective and I don't recall him/her sharing actual experiences much. To be fair, I had this poster ignored, but as so many people I don't ignore kept quoting his/her knee-jerk responses I saw a lot of it anyway.

There are plenty of iStock exclusives who can and do make their perspectives known here (and on FB where I also interact with them).

It isn't useful at all when someone posts about a negative regarding iStock and people like tickstock jump in with a "Shutterstock sucks" or other irrelevant comment. That's not free speech - it's trolling.

I've no idea who tickstock is but I can't imagine anyone at iStock or Getty caring enough about what's said here to send anyone in to participate. If they cared about community involvement, they wouldn't have destroyed the iStock forums, rendering a once vibrant place a virtual desert. And not even Getty's daft enough to think that sending in a troll is going to do squat to overcome the negative opinions of them their own policies and behaviors have brought about.

Monty-m-gue · « **Reply #242 on:** January 17, 2014, 14:01 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on January 17, 2014, 13:51

Quote from: bunhill on January 17, 2014, 13:32
...The site needs posters representing a variety of different perspectives and experiences.

True, but I hardly think tickstock's ranting qualified as perspective and I don't recall him/her sharing actual experiences much. To be fair, I had this poster ignored, but as so many people I don't ignore kept quoting his/her knee-jerk responses I saw a lot of it anyway.

There are plenty of iStock exclusives who can and do make their perspectives known here (and on FB where I also interact with them).

It isn't useful at all when someone posts about a negative regarding iStock and people like tickstock jump in with a "Shutterstock sucks" or other irrelevant comment. That's not free speech - it's trolling.

I've no idea who tickstock is but I can't imagine anyone at iStock or Getty caring enough about what's said here to send anyone in to participate. If they cared about community involvement, they wouldn't have destroyed the iStock forums, rendering a once vibrant place a virtual desert. And not even Getty's daft enough to think that sending in a troll is going to do squat to overcome the negative opinions of them their own policies and behaviors have brought about.

Pieman makes his voice heard here from time to time - he at least is keeping an eye on what is said on this Forum. I suspect he reads more than he comments - and if he's reading, he's reading for a reason. It wouldn't surprise me at all to hear that Getty are prepared to pay someone to try and put a gloss on all the negative views that are expressed here of iStock and Getty.

cobalt · « **Reply #243 on:** January 17, 2014, 14:21 »

The only professional approach is to bring in a competent admin with a service oriented mind set to explain what is going on at istock and act as a bridge to their own forums and the wider community. The way Shutterstock does it...and many other agencies.

Back in the days I suggested it several times, but sadly noone took up the idea.

I don't know if Getty cares about real community building, or if they even understand how community building works.

The istock forums are a desert, most activity is taking place underground. Even the yearly sales thread for all of 2013 has less than a hundred people posting out of over 30 000 artists.

If they don't know how to reach out to their own people, including the many admins who used to be very active on the forums as well and seem to have completely disappeared...how will they understand the dynamics of msg?

rogermexico was the last real community builder they had. I am not seeing anyone else being able to get the vibe of the people, make them trust him/her and draw them in the way he could.

I don't know if tickstock was a paid getty employee. But he was the most active poster I have seen all last year. And I don't see any active istock exclusive posting theway he did.

But I believe they should have paid him, or maybe reached out to him to become an official getty admin for msg, if he wasn't already on their pay roll.

So we will never know the real story...just another stock industry mystery that seems to have disappeared on Jan1st.

And maybe one day...getty will have an official admin on msg...and if not...the industry will keep moving on...

dingles · « **Reply #244 on:** January 17, 2014, 14:21 »

Quote from: lisafx on January 17, 2014, 13:01

Quote from: gillian on January 17, 2014, 08:51
still no comment from tickstock? my popcorn has gone cold waiting...

Well, his "cover" has pretty much been blown. It's now widely known/believed that he's a Getty employee pushing their agenda in the guise of an objective contributor. When he magically disappeared over the same period that Istock employees were on holiday break, that pretty much sealed it.

Now they have two choices - send him or someone else in under a new screen identity (and maybe be less OBVIOUS this time). Or perhaps they've realized there's nothing they can do to win over our "hearts and minds" while they keep screwing us, and have given up.

First time I'm hearing it...a bit skeptical

cobalt · « **Reply #245 on:** January 17, 2014, 14:39 »

The guy came out of nowhere when a getty was in a terrible crisis. He claims to be istock exclusive, but there is nobody we know who has his posting style over on istock. I've asked him many times why he didn't take part in the exclusive community, but he always avoided answering.

Somebody who loves forums so much, he works up nearly 2000 posts only on msg in one year (I have 1233) ? But never on istock, that he is always defending?

Whatever his story is, with all the hiding and being anonymous, many people found his behaviour strange.

He simply comes across as someone with an agenda, not the usual artist, who goes to msg for the chitchat and some industry news.

I had him on ignore for a while, but people kept quoting him anyway.

istock has enough exclusives posting here and in the wider community that are not anonymous and easily mix with people. So the exclusive perspective is well represented, there are a huge number of people with an active voice in the community.

And when they defend or recommend istock, their voice has a track record in the industry.

All istock has to do is give people a reason to be enthusiastic about their exclusivity. That will create positive buzz by itself.

ShadySue · « **Reply #246 on:** January 17, 2014, 14:42 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on January 17, 2014, 13:51

I've no idea who tickstock is but I can't imagine anyone at iStock or Getty caring enough about what's said here to send anyone in to participate. If they cared about community involvement, they wouldn't have destroyed the iStock forums, rendering a once vibrant place a virtual desert. And not even Getty's daft enough to think that sending in a troll is going to do squat to overcome the negative opinions of them their own policies and behaviors have brought about.

I think this is the truth, though the sudden disappearance of Tickstock is very odd.
If what he had said on this forum before was true, he was in the PP, so would have lost presumably a 'reasonable sum'.

bunhill · « **Reply #247 on:** January 17, 2014, 14:53 »

Quote from: cobalt on January 17, 2014, 14:39

Whatever his story is, with all the hiding and being anonymous, many people found his behaviour strange ... istock has enough exclusives posting here and in the wider community that are not anonymous and easily mix with people

Some of the brightest and most honest posters here were anonymous. It was a great pity they quit when it was suggested that anonymous posters were no longer welcome.

The 'wider community' is a bit of a myth IMO. Most people in the world of photography and stock are not part of these cliques.

The old iStock community was probably great in its day if you were on the inside - but the whole weird way of speaking was quite peculiar ... addressing everyone as Member for example. And there was much too much favouritism IMO. It's kind of better and probably much more honest them not pretending to be our friend.

ETA: I think Alamy has the right balance - courteous, friendly and quick to respond to emails - but the forum is not especially a part of how they typically communicate.

dingles · « **Reply #248 on:** January 17, 2014, 16:57 »

Still no email from iStock...and I have been bent over my chair all day just waiting for them.

cobalt · « **Reply #249 on:** January 17, 2014, 17:34 »

Quote from: bunhill on January 17, 2014, 14:53

Some of the brightest and most honest posters here were anonymous. It was a great pity they quit when it was suggested that anonymous posters were no longer welcome.

But you can usually recognise the writing style, if they are also active in the wider community. This is a very small industry, people know each other.

I don´t think people mind if someone is anonymous. It is just when they visibly attack people who are not anonymous, talk down their portfolios etc...that you will get resentment.

And of course if you claim "my results are fantastic - I am earning xyz" while everyone else who is not anonymous and has been posting results for years publishes the opposite...well, it is simply hard to see if what you are writing is real.

Like you say, if someone is genuinely and consistently describing accurate events and has an intelligent and interesting opinion and ideas, the voice will be respected in time. But to just come and "pose" as being knowledgable...well, you simply have to be very convincing in what you write. Was tickstock convincing, especially in the beginning? I think he got better at communicating over the year. But he also put a massive amount of time into practising his forum voice.

To the point that now people wonder what happened to him and where did he go.

I still believe Getty should have given him a House contract and not make him pay for files in the PC collection.

Active, positive social media communication - there is a market value, a price you can attach to that. He certainly earned that contract. And I am assuming his work is good enough, although I have never seen it. His enthusiasm for Getty seemed genuine to me.

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