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Phadrea

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« on: April 27, 2015, 06:20 »
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For the first 3 months of the year my photo sales have been increasingly ramping up month by month until April. It has dropped like a stone. I am currently around a quarter of my March sales so far and it looks to stay the same. What is going on in IS ? I thought things were on the up.  :-\


dpimborough

« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2015, 06:25 »
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You aren't the only one I've a 43% slump on sales compared to last month all the agencies seem to have slowed down (at least for me)  :'(

ShadySue

« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2015, 06:27 »
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NO reason to imagine things are on the up there. After a rise in March (relative to Jan/Feb, not to previous Marches), April has been dire for me. I don't buy the Easter/Spring break theory, as previous Easter/Spring break dips were never as low, and this past week has been even worse than the first fortnight. Barring a good EL in the next couple of days, hahaha, this will be my new worst full exclusive month - I went exclusive in mid-August 2007.

« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2015, 07:01 »
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my april is good on IS...better than march... with no uploads this month

« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2015, 07:05 »
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Are we talking about $10, $100, $1000 or $10,000 per month ? Roughly.

« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2015, 07:12 »
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Bunnhill, good one !

ShadySue

« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2015, 07:17 »
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Are we talking about $10, $100, $1000 or $10,000 per month ? Roughly.
Previously around the middle of that range, now much lower. Roughly.

« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2015, 07:24 »
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Numbers have plummeted to about a third of March - but the numbers are so low that they are statistically insignificant. 

Not sure why the OP thought things were 'on the up'... 

« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2015, 07:43 »
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It's harder to determine how a month is going at IS since you don't know what surprises await you with PP. My IS sales are "normal" with one EL wrapped into that comment. Take out the EL and I'm a little off. However, last month I got about $300 in PP (this includes everything pp has to offer (subs, gray bars, big chunk sales- large green bar spikes). This kicked me over $400 for the month, making it a normal month.  However, without PP I would have made the claim that the month sucked, but in the end it turned out okay.

I've said this before, once one of these goes away (TS or IS) we stand to lose a lot, relatively speaking. If IS is dissolved, TS is only a sub site and we lose all credit sales unless they integrate them in the same kind of manner as SS.  If PP goes away they would need to transfer customers to an attractive subs package in IS using whatever the hook is they use for TS today.  It's going to happen in my opinion. It has to be too costly to run two disparate sites, both of which offer subs.

« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2015, 07:57 »
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Are we talking about $10, $100, $1000 or $10,000 per month ? Roughly.
Previously around the middle of that range, now much lower. Roughly.

The median of the range $10 - $10,000 is $5,500 $5,005
« Last Edit: April 27, 2015, 09:23 by bunhill »

« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2015, 08:04 »
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Are we talking about $10, $100, $1000 or $10,000 per month ? Roughly.
Previously around the middle of that range, now much lower. Roughly.

The median of the range $10 - $10,000 is $5,500.
Nope, median is 550 (values 10, 100, 1000 and 10000).

« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2015, 09:01 »
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H'mm I think a range doesn't have a median a range or group of numbers does. A range has a midpoint in this case $5,005.

I could be wrong I got into Mstock to get away from this stuff but while I'm here statistical significance relates to sample size and variation rather than absolute value :o

No Free Lunch

« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2015, 09:12 »
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Are we talking about $10, $100, $1000 or $10,000 per month ? Roughly.

we are talking about moving back in with my parents and I am almost 50 years old that is how bad my sales are this month  :(



« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2015, 09:15 »
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Are we talking about $10, $100, $1000 or $10,000 per month ? Roughly.

we are talking about moving back in with my parents and I am almost 50 years old that is how bad my sales are this month  :(

Ok. Just don't play your music too loud. And no smoking dope in your bedroom.

« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2015, 09:20 »
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Are we talking about $10, $100, $1000 or $10,000 per month ? Roughly.

we are talking about moving back in with my parents and I am almost 50 years old that is how bad my sales are this month  :(

Ok. Just don't play your music too loud. And no smoking dope in your bedroom.

 ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D

« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2015, 09:20 »
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I propose that we begin a thorough discussion about exact median .
For me, is this the most important thing today.
 ;)

No Free Lunch

« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2015, 09:22 »
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Are we talking about $10, $100, $1000 or $10,000 per month ? Roughly.

we are talking about moving back in with my parents and I am almost 50 years old that is how bad my sales are this month  :(

Ok. Just don't play your music too loud. And no smoking dope in your bedroom.

Ok, dude  ;D


« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2015, 14:04 »
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Are we talking about $10, $100, $1000 or $10,000 per month ? Roughly.

we are talking about moving back in with my parents and I am almost 50 years old that is how bad my sales are this month  :(

Are there no other jobs to be had?

dpimborough

« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2015, 16:04 »
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Are we talking about $10, $100, $1000 or $10,000 per month ? Roughly.

Down by around $2500 if you must know >:(
« Last Edit: April 27, 2015, 16:07 by Teddy the Cat »

« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2015, 16:31 »
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My numbers are strong for April in photo and video  ;D

« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2015, 04:02 »
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My sales had already become weak and erratic averaging two or three a day but since the 15th they've fallen off a cliff and I'm now not even averaging one a day from 5,000 files - and they want us to keep uploading? And I'm a "diamond"-level contributor within a whisker of 57,000 sales (and more than 250,000 across eight or nine sites).

Phadrea

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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2015, 04:08 »
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Numbers have plummeted to about a third of March - but the numbers are so low that they are statistically insignificant. 

Not sure why the OP thought things were 'on the up'...

Because my sales for Jan/Feb/March were increasingly on the up. What else could I think ?

« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2015, 04:29 »
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My numbers are strong for April in photo and video  ;D

What?  jjneff is having a good month and someone gives him a minus . . . . that, at least, makes me laugh.

by the way, I'm having a good month also.

« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2015, 04:37 »
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My sales had already become weak and erratic averaging two or three a day but since the 15th they've fallen off a cliff and I'm now not even averaging one a day from 5,000 files - and they want us to keep uploading? And I'm a "diamond"-level contributor within a whisker of 57,000 sales (and more than 250,000 across eight or nine sites).

May I ask if this (your) slump is specific to IS? Reason I'm asking is because my April is terrible on all sites, even SS is struggling for me...

« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2015, 04:57 »
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Numbers have plummeted to about a third of March - but the numbers are so low that they are statistically insignificant. 

Not sure why the OP thought things were 'on the up'...

Because my sales for Jan/Feb/March were increasingly on the up. What else could I think ?

Happy that you had good sales for a while at least.

Sadly in my case. any short term increase is usually followed by a 'correction', so I am very wary of concluding that iStock in general has somehow reversed their historical trend.

« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2015, 05:24 »
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My sales had already become weak and erratic averaging two or three a day but since the 15th they've fallen off a cliff and I'm now not even averaging one a day from 5,000 files - and they want us to keep uploading? And I'm a "diamond"-level contributor within a whisker of 57,000 sales (and more than 250,000 across eight or nine sites).

May I ask if this (your) slump is specific to IS? Reason I'm asking is because my April is terrible on all sites, even SS is struggling for me...

As a "slump", I would say yes, it is just IS (and it remains to be seen whether the PP is affected) - but several other sites are a bit weak, too, compared with recent months. The main one - SS - is steady, though still 20 or 30% down on its glory days, DT is weak, 123 is below the last few months and the others aren't particularly significant. Alamy is holding up well, with seven sales this month, and I got a huge sale on FAA but one sale in a month is not something that can be regarded as anything more than a pleasant surprise.

« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2015, 05:26 »
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My numbers are strong for April in photo and video  ;D

What?  jjneff is having a good month and someone gives him a minus . . . . that, at least, makes me laugh.

by the way, I'm having a good month also.

I just gave you that minus, to keep you in good company :)

« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2015, 05:36 »
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My numbers are strong for April in photo and video  ;D

What?  jjneff is having a good month and someone gives him a minus . . . . that, at least, makes me laugh.

by the way, I'm having a good month also.

I just gave you that minus, to keep you in good company :)

 :) :)

« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2015, 05:39 »
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My mistake on not staying on topic. My sales should be a lot better, for as much as I produce I can not believe iStock is so low!

ShadySue

« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2015, 06:30 »
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My mistake on not staying on topic. My sales should be a lot better, for as much as I produce I can not believe iStock is so low!
I'm guessing that's a  ;).
But indeed, if your sales are good, of course post that fact.
Shows that the site isn't necessarily declining and the rest of us 'should do better'.

« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2015, 06:35 »
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Yes My regular photo sales are the highest ever this month and my video is at least decent. March was a train wreck so it just goes to show we all have our highs and lows no matter what agency you sell on.

« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2015, 06:53 »
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Yes My regular photo sales are the highest ever this month and my video is at least decent. March was a train wreck so it just goes to show we all have our highs and lows no matter what agency you sell on.

Unfortunately, my trend on iStock has been consistently down for many years, I'm not expecting ever to see a "high" there that compares with 2008 or 2009 (or whenever my maximum was). It's a long way down from $30 or $40 a day to $1.5 a day or less.

dpimborough

« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2015, 08:52 »
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Are we talking about $10, $100, $1000 or $10,000 per month ? Roughly.

we are talking about moving back in with my parents and I am almost 50 years old that is how bad my sales are this month  :(

Are there no other jobs to be had?

Yeah go get a job flipping burgers supposedly it pays more money than microstock as many a microstock submitter is fond of pointing out on more than one occasion :D

« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2015, 09:17 »
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Are we talking about $10, $100, $1000 or $10,000 per month ? Roughly.

200$ around

Phadrea

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« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2015, 10:13 »
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I hate the process of uploading via Deep Metta tediously going through every keyword, checking boxes, putting them in order knowing that they will end up in a big black hole never to be used.

ShadySue

« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2015, 10:23 »
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I hate the process of uploading via Deep Metta tediously going through every keyword, checking boxes, putting them in order knowing that they will end up in a big black hole never to be used.
It's the Description that is going into the Black Hole.

« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2015, 12:16 »
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My numbers are strong for April in photo and video  ;D
Strong?  In credit sales for photos?  Are you sure?  What do you call strong?   

ShadySue

« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2015, 05:33 »
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Yes My regular photo sales are the highest ever this month ...
How are your recent-ish photo uploads doing?
Most people are finding that uploading isn't helping, and I see pages of recent uploads with very few dls among them on most peoples' ports, even those with the most highly commercial images.
That being the case, there's nothing we can do about our sales on that site. As I've said before, even where there are a few recent sales, there aren't enough to pay for the shoot, in most cases.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2015, 06:29 by ShadySue »

« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2015, 06:30 »
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Yes My regular photo sales are the highest ever this month ...
How are your recent-ish photo uploads doing?
Most people are finding that uploading isn't helping, and I see pages of recent uploads with very few dls among them on most peoples' ports, even those with the most highly commercial images.
In my case: Last 40 ULs which have been there for a couple of months, one credit sale, one subs sale, no PP. Not terribly commercial stock to be fair, but even so!

ShadySue

« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2015, 06:47 »
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Yes My regular photo sales are the highest ever this month ...
How are your recent-ish photo uploads doing?
Most people are finding that uploading isn't helping, and I see pages of recent uploads with very few dls among them on most peoples' ports, even those with the most highly commercial images.
In my case: Last 40 ULs which have been there for a couple of months, one credit sale, one subs sale, no PP. Not terribly commercial stock to be fair, but even so!
My few recent sales are mostly from 2007/8 and 2011, and that's been the pattern for many months now. The early ones are old 35mm scans and from my 350D; I think I got the 5D2 in 2010. I've looked carefully at what's selling and there's no pattern I can see, and no obvious-to-me reason in the content as to why uploads from these years are selling (to a very limited extent), but others aren't.
I knew from very early on that I was becoming a far less creative photographer once I started stock, but it seems I must have been a better 'stock' photographer before I started, as many of the 2007 uploads were taken before I was selling.  ::)
« Last Edit: April 29, 2015, 06:49 by ShadySue »

« Reply #40 on: April 29, 2015, 06:53 »
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I see that only two of my last 20 sales were of files shot after the end of 2009.  Extraordinary, really.

,,,, and 9 of the 20 were shot in 2004 or 2005, even more extraordinary.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2015, 06:57 by BaldricksTrousers »

« Reply #41 on: April 29, 2015, 07:00 »
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Most of my sales are from pre 2011. Again no rhyme or reason I can see in what sold or when it was from. In the last 60 DLs I have the same number of DLs on 9-10 y/o images, as I do on images from the last three years.

« Reply #42 on: April 29, 2015, 07:04 »
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I just checked out my last 40 sales.   1 was from  a 2011 upload, 2 from 2009 and all the rest were from before that with the majority from 2006.
From my last 40 uploads which have been there since February  I have only had 2 credit sales, one was and xxL for 1.5'$ and and XXXL for 1.73.  I would rather have sales that size at DT.
Of my last 20 dls they have all already had over 500 dls so I assume that they are being found by people doing a search by number of dls rather than the default which would probably take hundreds of pages to find them.

« Reply #43 on: April 29, 2015, 07:08 »
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Wow I just went and checked. Of my last 20 most are from 2007 & 2008, a few from 2011, nothing from the last year.

ShadySue

« Reply #44 on: April 29, 2015, 07:19 »
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Adding insult to injury, a photo I uploaded from my India trip in March was downloaded the very next day - as a 75c sub.  >:( 
Maybe sub buyers get a different search (unlikely as it seems), as post-Sept_2012 files get some subs sales.
Or it's just proven that I'm getting worse, and my recent pics are only worth sub prices.  :'(

BTW, it's not just old often-sold files which are in the few I'm selling. Even files with few previous sales (even <5dl Sig files) from these particular years are selling.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2015, 07:25 by ShadySue »

« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2015, 10:21 »
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I don't have anything to brag about, my sales hasn't broken any records, but I haven't seen any slumps this year.

My last quarter of 2014 was horrible, a historic low. However, since Feb, the revenue has been on a slow climb, I have seen small increases in combined revenue every month. About 60% were credit sales. I saw a 10% revenue increase comparing to the first three months of 2014.

Among my last 20 sales, 6 were from 2014.

« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2015, 11:03 »
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Really strange that most are reporting sales of such older images.  Seems too many to be coincidence.   

Maybe search is tilted toward when everyone was happy and putting in their best efforts, before it all went to he1l.  Also, putting old stuff from when IS had strict standards in front of credit buyers keeps them from being turned off by the influx of Getty cr@p and other garbage from the new policy of accepting everything.

« Reply #47 on: April 29, 2015, 11:28 »
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Just want to give a bit more info.

My port has also increased about 10% in the past year. Perhaps it should not be considered as an increase.

« Reply #48 on: April 29, 2015, 17:58 »
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BME for me

« Reply #49 on: April 30, 2015, 00:23 »
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I've always been an obsessive stats checker but I almost never even look at my stats there anymore as it is too depressing.

Noedelhap

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« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2015, 07:25 »
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This is what my april stats look like:


« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2015, 18:04 »
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There is always $25 credit to win for the best caption! ::)
https://www.facebook.com/pond5/videos/10153288815144777/

ha ha...love that comment - "he saw his sales"  ;D

« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2015, 21:24 »
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With the caveat that my numbers on iStock are statistically insignificant since I only have 120 files - 20 of which I added recently - I was not surprised to see that nearly all my sales this month are from images uploaded in 2011 when I joined iS - but the really interesting thing is that the one file that I sold that wasn't from 2011 is one I uploaded this month, which hasn't happened in ages for me there. My new work usually sits there month after month with 0 views.   

Only an average month on DT after a steady climb upward.

Big jump in new file sales on SS which is a welcome change.

Nice month on Alamy, small sales on FAA, direct stock photo sales are strong. 

« Reply #53 on: May 01, 2015, 13:26 »
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Very poor April here...hope PP bumps it up a bit

« Reply #54 on: May 03, 2015, 07:22 »
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Mine too. Only the first 3 months, when I joined istock were worse.

KB

« Reply #55 on: May 03, 2015, 10:06 »
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Oh, good, another thread on which I can complain!  ;D

I don't understand why, with April on iS being so terrible for nearly everyone, the poll results improved?

30 Apr: 35 / 198.3 (Indies / Exclusives)
03 May: 40.6 / 205.7

 ???

My own poll entry was 40% lower than the previous month. Clearly I have a huge influence.  ::)

Uncle Pete

« Reply #56 on: May 04, 2015, 11:41 »
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Because the poll has no April real numbers, so people use March for their estimated income? That's my only guess. No one knows what their PP, Subs or GI sales are for April?  Just a guess. ???

If true, then May will show the April depression in income.

Oh, good, another thread on which I can complain!  ;D

I don't understand why, with April on iS being so terrible for nearly everyone, the poll results improved?

30 Apr: 35 / 198.3 (Indies / Exclusives)
03 May: 40.6 / 205.7

 ???

My own poll entry was 40% lower than the previous month. Clearly I have a huge influence.  ::)

Phadrea

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« Reply #57 on: May 04, 2015, 13:35 »
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I am trying to post on the forums but I keep getting this error. Anyone else unable to post ?

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Semmick Photo

« Reply #58 on: May 04, 2015, 13:42 »
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I am trying to post on the forums but I keep getting this error. Anyone else unable to post ?

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they closed the forums, no?

ShadySue

« Reply #59 on: May 04, 2015, 13:45 »
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I am trying to post on the forums but I keep getting this error. Anyone else unable to post ?

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they closed the forums, no?

I think they're going to, but there was a post 43 mins ago.

dpimborough

« Reply #60 on: May 04, 2015, 16:37 »
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I am trying to post on the forums but I keep getting this error. Anyone else unable to post ?

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they closed the forums, no?

Looks like he's right I got

"Errors were encountered:

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iStock errors??!!  What?! hahahahaha  ;D

Frakking frak!

P.S. May is pants too  :-\

ShadySue

« Reply #61 on: May 04, 2015, 17:02 »
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There have been at least a couple of posts on their near-moribund forums since the post.

« Reply #62 on: May 04, 2015, 19:53 »
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Like many others I stopped posting on iStock forum long ago.  Lobo's censorship and Kelvinjay's censorship and snooping into our accounts make me sick.

Regarding current credit sales:

On Sep 4, kelvinjay wrote: "These changes have been made with the intention of ultimately increasing sales and earnings for everyone..." and later,  on Sep 17 he wrote: "In order to be successful, these changes must be accompanied by an increase in sales volume..."

And here we are, eight months after the new credit system was launched...
Isn't it obvious yet that it's been a complete fiasco?  There's no simply no light at the end of this tunnel.  It's just a dead end.


Phadrea

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« Reply #63 on: May 05, 2015, 01:02 »
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  Lobo's censorship and Kelvinjay's censorship and snooping into our accounts make me sick.

Snooping into our accounts. What do you mean  ?

« Reply #64 on: May 05, 2015, 02:27 »
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  Lobo's censorship and Kelvinjay's censorship and snooping into our accounts make me sick.

Snooping into our accounts. What do you mean  ?
He's probably referring to this sort of snarky post that appeared from Kelvinjay on iS five minutes ago, indicating that moderators can (and do) access account details:
   

Posted By XXXXXX:
Am I missing something? Shouldn't payment be done at 25 of april? I still didn't get mine!?

Hi,
Yes, what you seem to be missing is that your balance wasn't over $100 on the last day of March, therefore you didn't get paid in April. We have a thread here explaining everything, please take a look
.

« Reply #65 on: May 05, 2015, 04:01 »
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Worst month for 4 years. 5 zero days (very unusual to have one), hardly any SODs and ODs, no EL for 7 months. Something has to change.

Noedelhap

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« Reply #66 on: May 05, 2015, 04:11 »
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  Lobo's censorship and Kelvinjay's censorship and snooping into our accounts make me sick.

Snooping into our accounts. What do you mean  ?
He's probably referring to this sort of snarky post that appeared from Kelvinjay on iS five minutes ago, indicating that moderators can (and do) access account details:
   

Posted By XXXXXX:
Am I missing something? Shouldn't payment be done at 25 of april? I still didn't get mine!?

Hi,
Yes, what you seem to be missing is that your balance wasn't over $100 on the last day of March, therefore you didn't get paid in April. We have a thread here explaining everything, please take a look
.


I don't consider access to accounts a bad thing per se. They're sort of a support desk as well and closely working together with other departments (finance/accounting, dev team, etc). I don't like the snarky comment ("what you seem to be missing...") either, but that's typical of any company without morals.

Shelma1

« Reply #67 on: May 05, 2015, 05:41 »
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Yeah, I've been pretty horrified by KelvinJay announcing to the entire world (public forum) the details of someone's account...sales, earnings, etc. ... If he disagrees with something they've said.

Semmick Photo

« Reply #68 on: May 05, 2015, 05:50 »
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Fully agree with Shelma here.

I do think it matters Noedelhap. Would you like it if they published your earnings?

ShadySue

« Reply #69 on: May 05, 2015, 06:27 »
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I'm a bit more ambivalent about this one.
Someone posts in a public forum that they haven't been paid. Looks bad, but in this case they weren't due to be paid.
Admin could remove the thread and explain the situation privately;  but removing the thread looks suspicious.
A 'better' solution might be to say "Check your sitemail" and hope that the person comes back to post "Thanks, sorry, my mistake", but often when they've done that in the past, the OP hasn't replied,  making it look as though they got some sort of  'silencing' email.
I suppose the 'best' solution might be to say, "Are you sure you had $100 in your account by (date), and show them how to check that.
OTOH, knowing that they can and will look into accounts lets us know that when people post about their worst month since whenever, it's true - else they'd be outed in a nanosecond.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2015, 18:34 by ShadySue »

Shelma1

« Reply #70 on: May 05, 2015, 07:12 »
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I couldn't believe it and still can't. I imagine being out to lunch with colleagues, and someone complains about their bonus, and then the IT guy in the group sneeringly announces their salary and bonus to everyone there. And then you all realize this one guy knows everything about you and can look it up and make it public knowledge at any time. Creepy.

ShadySue

« Reply #71 on: May 05, 2015, 07:21 »
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Ah, well  I was a teacher all of my wageslave days and the whole world can see the entire salary scale on the appropriate website, so I don't get incensed about that sort of thing.

« Reply #72 on: May 05, 2015, 07:33 »
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Ah, well  I was a teacher all of my wageslave days and the whole world can see the entire salary scale on the appropriate website, so I don't get incensed about that sort of thing.

LOL

« Reply #73 on: May 05, 2015, 08:24 »
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  Lobo's censorship and Kelvinjay's censorship and snooping into our accounts make me sick.

Snooping into our accounts. What do you mean  ?
Since Kelvinjay became a moderator, he got access to our private information.  On many occasions he has told how he checks our accounts just for "curiosity".  Every time anyone has criticized him on the forum, he has quickly deleted the posts.   
He's one of those people who's made more harm than good to iStock.

« Reply #74 on: May 05, 2015, 10:24 »
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I just sold my first EL on iStock. I know you don't care, but I just wanted to share my happiness with you. It grossed me 24.42$.

Anyway, what are the usual earnings from EL?

Semmick Photo

« Reply #75 on: May 05, 2015, 10:27 »
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24.42$ gross on IS? At 15% that would be $3.66 NET for an EL? Surely thats not right because I hear all these people saying here that 1 sale on IS pays for a parking ticket at $7.50

« Reply #76 on: May 05, 2015, 10:31 »
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I think, 24.42$ gross means, if the buyer is from US, iS will took 5% from that amount for taxes. Otherwise, I keep complete amount.

ShadySue

« Reply #77 on: May 05, 2015, 10:51 »
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I just sold my first EL on iStock. I know you don't care, but I just wanted to share my happiness with you. It grossed me 24.42$.

Anyway, what are the usual earnings from EL?
No 'usual'. Depends on your royalty level and how much the buyer paid for their credits.
Congrats anyway!
« Last Edit: May 05, 2015, 18:29 by ShadySue »

Noedelhap

  • www.colincramm.com

« Reply #78 on: May 05, 2015, 17:13 »
+6
Fully agree with Shelma here.

I do think it matters Noedelhap. Would you like it if they published your earnings?

No, but in this case, no specific amount was mentioned; just that he didn't make payout this month. If he had said something like: 'yeah you just made $211.53 this month, you're gonna get paid' or 'you only made $76.22, slightly less than last month', it would have been a different story (too many details).
I do think KelvinJay could have handled it more discreetly, then again, it doesn't surprise me one bit. Both Lobo and KelvinJay are completely tactless when it comes to contributor/client communication.

PaulieWalnuts

  • On the Wrong Side of the Business
« Reply #79 on: May 05, 2015, 17:43 »
+14
For me April isn't in a slump any more than the new normal slump. And since a good portion of my sales are now subscriptions I won't find out how I did until May 25th after everything else is reported.

But the thing that really just caught my eye is the Redeemed Credits which for the first time in years are on track to be 1/2 of what they were last year and 1/4 of what they were in 2013. So to add insult to injury I will absolutely drop a level in royalty percentage unless they freeze it. And they should. Their sales are down. Regular download sales are disappearing and being replaced by subs. And we don't earn RCs for subs or other deals.

« Reply #80 on: May 06, 2015, 03:49 »
0
I remember good old days for video from 2008-2009 with 150 dl/ month. Now days I get only 4-5 dl /month.

PZF

« Reply #81 on: May 10, 2015, 11:31 »
0
For me April was ok. Fairly normal. Few DLs most days bar weekends. But May ONE DL SO FAR and we are now the 10th.
?????????
:(

Tay

« Reply #82 on: May 11, 2015, 01:44 »
0
From couple weeks some downloads are not showing up on 'recent downloads'. I have large number of this "invisible downloads" also i don't receive any payment for them.
More here: http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=366689&page=1

I noticed that this bug may be started a few days before Easter.


« Reply #83 on: May 11, 2015, 07:03 »
0
Hi, guys

I'm newbie here and I can say that i'm newbie on istock sites, also (i've started at the beginning of 2014).

How are your PP sales on Istock for april? Mine are worse than ever and i'm wondering if they are finished or not. For me, sales stopped on 21 and I've got a lot days with just one pp sale or nothing. It never went so bad. I have around 400 vectors in my portofolio  :'(
What happens with your sales this April?
Cheers.

« Reply #84 on: May 11, 2015, 07:26 »
+1
Hi, guys

I'm newbie here and I can say that i'm newbie on istock sites, also (i've started at the beginning of 2014).

How are your PP sales on Istock for april? Mine are worse than ever and i'm wondering if they are finished or not. For me, sales stopped on 21 and I've got a lot days with just one pp sale or nothing. It never went so bad. I have around 400 vectors in my portofolio  :'(
What happens with your sales this April?
Cheers.

If they are done it will be the worst month since they started.  I am up about $75 for April compared to $225 average on other months. But sales are still SLOWLY trickling in so I don't think they are done yet.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2015, 07:30 by Mantis »

« Reply #85 on: May 11, 2015, 07:36 »
0
Where I can see when it was downloaded a PP file ?
I looked in PP but I don't see a date of download, only File, Edit, Approval date, DLs/mo, Partner Program DLs (iStock DLs) and Royalty.

Thanks !

« Reply #86 on: May 11, 2015, 08:06 »
0
Where I can see when it was downloaded a PP file ?
I looked in PP but I don't see a date of download, only File, Edit, Approval date, DLs/mo, Partner Program DLs (iStock DLs) and Royalty.

Thanks !

I also don't know how to know when and what was downloaded form a moth to another. At the beginning it was easy to see, because they weren't too much, but after a while becomes hardly to traffic.

« Reply #87 on: May 11, 2015, 08:10 »
0
Hi, guys

I'm newbie here and I can say that i'm newbie on istock sites, also (i've started at the beginning of 2014).

How are your PP sales on Istock for april? Mine are worse than ever and i'm wondering if they are finished or not. For me, sales stopped on 21 and I've got a lot days with just one pp sale or nothing. It never went so bad. I have around 400 vectors in my portofolio  :'(
What happens with your sales this April?
Cheers.

If they are done it will be the worst month since they started.  I am up about $75 for April compared to $225 average on other months. But sales are still SLOWLY trickling in so I don't think they are done yet.

My revenue is also 1/3 from average month, so I guess it will be my worse month since i've started. I never sell too much, but this month is awful, worse it was when i had less than 100 vectors in my portofolio. :(

ShadySue

« Reply #88 on: May 11, 2015, 09:18 »
+1
I'm not even in the PP, but I know it's not due to end reporting until the 15th. Clue: it's a thread title over there.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2015, 12:26 by ShadySue »

dpimborough

« Reply #89 on: May 11, 2015, 09:58 »
0
I'm not even in the PP, but I know it's not dye to end reporting until the 15th. Clue: it's a thread title over there.

Those PP sale threads were scrapped it's all buried in the general sales discussion thread now.

Generally PP sales will drag on followed by sub sales which they haven't started reporting yet and then Getty 360 sale right in the last week of the month

ShadySue

« Reply #90 on: May 11, 2015, 12:07 »
0
I'm not even in the PP, but I know it's not dye to end reporting until the 15th. Clue: it's a thread title over there.


Those PP sale threads were scrapped it's all buried in the general sales discussion thread now.

It's hardly 'buried'.
The thread title is "April 2015 Credit Sales - PP sales processing now through May 15th"
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=366683&page=1

« Reply #91 on: May 11, 2015, 12:23 »
+1
When you think about slumps, it is helpful to remember that is takes a lot of effort to build a port that will be popular year round. I have noticed some gaping holes in the desirability of my port as the earth travels round the sun. One of the finer points of microstock (that I have not mastered at all) is shoot a port that sells well 12 months a year. Period over period analysis is also sketchy because of the changing trends and demands. Some of my best sellers last April were turkeys this April. Another issue I have struggled with is how to take my best sellers and freshen up the concept so that I keep getting good returns on my initial investment. Microstock is like any other commodity business, the levers we have to pull to make any real difference are sparse.

Af8

« Reply #92 on: May 12, 2015, 03:52 »
0
Like others so far April has been a 'down month' both IS and PP, can but hope they have a delay on reporting from some of their partners.  Interestingly other agencies were up in April.  Could just be a a season blip due to the nature of my portfolio.  Probably just wishful thinking ;)

« Reply #93 on: May 12, 2015, 07:09 »
+3
I'm not even in the PP, but I know it's not dye to end reporting until the 15th. Clue: it's a thread title over there.


Those PP sale threads were scrapped it's all buried in the general sales discussion thread now.

It's hardly 'buried'.
The thread title is "April 2015 Credit Sales - PP sales processing now through May 15th"
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=366683&page=1


This is the kind of post from your link that is most telling:

"Credit sales earnings only, here is my April history since becoming exclusive beginning of 2010. The worst part is subscription, GI and all the rest aren't even close to making up the difference I'm seeing year on year.


April 2010: $432


April 2011: $2932


April 2012: $3007


April 2013: $2180


April 2014: $1554


April 2015: $578


ah, the memories of 2012...."

ShadySue

« Reply #94 on: May 19, 2015, 08:53 »
+1
PP is apparently complete, some people reporting 50% down.
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=366683&messageid=7102597
Subs are dripping in extremely slowly.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2015, 08:00 by ShadySue »

« Reply #95 on: May 19, 2015, 09:47 »
0
Now that PP and subs are in April is my BMY on iS but with a tiny port and small sales numbers, it's not statistically significant. The upward trend of my graph looks nice but the numbers are so small that posting it would be deceiving. It'll probably be another month (maybe two) before I make payout, so small numbers.

« Reply #96 on: May 20, 2015, 07:54 »
+3
I think they (GETTY) are evaluating the transition of customers from TS to IS and when they hit their metric they will dissolve TS.  For me I can see almost an even tradeoff between the loss of TS vs the gain of IS subs. There has to be a plan to eliminate TS, of course I have no evidence of this other than how my sales are behaving.

« Reply #97 on: May 20, 2015, 15:06 »
0
I think they (GETTY) are evaluating the transition of customers from TS to IS and when they hit their metric they will dissolve TS.  For me I can see almost an even tradeoff between the loss of TS vs the gain of IS subs. There has to be a plan to eliminate TS, of course I have no evidence of this other than how my sales are behaving.

Sounds logical.  Why keep  two redundant sites?

« Reply #98 on: May 27, 2015, 01:14 »
+2
April was a horrible month.  Sales at Getty didn't help at all.  They were a complete disaster.   
« Last Edit: May 27, 2015, 01:19 by Digital66 »


 

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