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DanP68

« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2009, 11:05 »
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Do I get more downloads because I'm exclusive?
No.


You're kidding, right?  The whole purpose of going exclusive with iStock is to get more downloads due to the best match placement advantages, and of course the commission increase.


ShadySue

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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2009, 14:03 »
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Do I get more downloads because I'm exclusive?
No.

You're kidding, right?  The whole purpose of going exclusive with iStock is to get more downloads due to the best match placement advantages, and of course the commission increase.

The current best match does not seem to favour exclusives. This hasn't always been the case, and may not be the case in the future.

CofkoCof

« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2009, 14:08 »
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Do I get more downloads because I'm exclusive?
No.

You're kidding, right?  The whole purpose of going exclusive with iStock is to get more downloads due to the best match placement advantages, and of course the commission increase.

The current best match does not seem to favour exclusives. This hasn't always been the case, and may not be the case in the future.
It still does, just not to such extent as the previous did. Many non-exclusives reporeted quite a big drop in sales when the previous best match took place and started to recover recently.

« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2009, 15:26 »
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Frankly best match should mean Best Match which applies to the most relevant images. And not Biased Match. It is only fair to the buyers and everyone else.

I totally agree that the exclusives should be entitled to higher commissions, more uploads and fast reviews. But the quality and contents should be equal standards for all.

« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2009, 16:55 »
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When I joined istock a couple of years ago I saw clear statements from admins that best match did not favour exclusives. They had 'other ways' of giving exclusive portfolios 'more exposure'. At the end of last year that clearly changed, and an istock admin admitted that they were trying to encourage people to join them (as exclusive). I personally think it was a Christmas bonus to existing exclusives before rolling out the more reality based best match 2.0, which they had to do to keep buyers happy in the face of stiff competition.

« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2009, 20:36 »
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This one would never pass iStock review due to some policy known only to them as well as I don't know to comply to their 'needs' in stock illustration ;-)

Thank goodness.

« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2009, 23:49 »
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This one would never pass iStock review due to some policy known only to them as well as I don't know to comply to their 'needs' in stock illustration ;-)

Thank goodness.

Someone just opened the gates to hell.  :o

« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2009, 01:33 »
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I totally agree that the exclusives should be entitled to higher commissions, more uploads and fast reviews. But the quality and contents should be equal standards for all.

Agreed. My sales on IS went back to normal this month and my top sellers are again on page 1, according to relevancy of course. If a buyer wants exclusives, he can still look for it by selecting the proper search option on IS. It's a good strategy when looking for a concept and you don't want the results cluttered with images you can also find at other sites. As a low volume buyer I first look on DT, then on IS exclusive only. That way, I have an overview of what's available. If the image isn't exclusive at IS, it's better to buy it at DT than at IS since DT is cheaper. Makes sense, huh?  ;)

« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2009, 01:37 »
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Someone just opened the gates to hell.  :o

The road to hell is paved with ćevapčići  ;D

Milinz

« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2009, 04:46 »
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This one would never pass iStock review due to some policy known only to them as well as I don't know to comply to their 'needs' in stock illustration ;-)

Thank goodness.

Yup... Thank Goodness! If they've accepted me year ago I'd be in same suit as you there... You're exclusive there ha? But, it is great not to be exclusive ;-)

BTW, How was that with your stolen image on that site? Did iStock lawyers contacted that people who broke lincence terms?

« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2009, 08:06 »
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My sales doubled since new best match started.

Noodles

« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2009, 08:49 »
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This image I didn't even try to submit to IS because I am sure it will be rejected, but I sold it OD on SS yesterday:



and so on....

I hope IS people will see this thread  and think once more about raster graphic. Of course, vectors sell better, but raster graphic can cell better than some photographs I think.




You might be missing the point - have a look at this weeks Design Spotlight  http://www.istockphoto.com/design_spotlight_details.php?ID=26164

Let the designers, design! They do a better job :)

« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2009, 10:30 »
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This image I didn't even try to submit to IS because I am sure it will be rejected, but I sold it OD on SS yesterday:



and so on....

I hope IS people will see this thread  and think once more about raster graphic. Of course, vectors sell better, but raster graphic can cell better than some photographs I think.




You might be missing the point - have a look at this weeks Design Spotlight  http://www.istockphoto.com/design_spotlight_details.php?ID=26164

Let the designers, design! They do a better job :)


You want to say I had to submit plain rendered fake Moon, and wait for inspectors to review it?? It's fake Moon, it would be rejected anyway because IS reviewers don't accept these things. So, I didn't even try to upload it. I sell it on other places. :)

Caz

« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2009, 07:36 »
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iStock does accept raster illustrations. But the thing is, they need to be good.

A quick search brought me to these
http://tinyurl.com/oc2gqo

I think that if your work is up to the artisitc and techncial standard on that link, then you'll have no trouble getting them accepted at iStock.

Other sites might well accept simple photoshopping, plug in filtering, fractals and overly simple renders. They might even have a customer base for them. But those are other sites.

« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2009, 11:29 »
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IMHO, istock hates these rastered images. Best to upload them to Shutterstock. Anything that looks like it was rendered in Apophysis get the automatic boot, while they get accepted at SS and get decent downloads if they are unique and interesting (which the above mentioned rastered images gave me a big yawn).

LSD72

  • My Bologna has a first name...
« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2009, 20:58 »
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Just looking around IS.. here is someone who seems to have gotten their stuff on there.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_search.php?action=file&userID=509729

I am going to try out 2 Rastered Images just to see if they reject them on IS. 2 that were accepted at other sites and have some views going.

With SS, I have just failed my first application so I am wondering if I could / should throw some rasters in it next time?

« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2009, 21:42 »
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Just looking around IS.. here is someone who seems to have gotten their stuff on there.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_search.php?action=file&userID=509729

I am going to try out 2 Rastered Images just to see if they reject them on IS. 2 that were accepted at other sites and have some views going.

With SS, I have just failed my first application so I am wondering if I could / should throw some rasters in it next time?


^ Even he mentioned being upset over rejections in one of his blog posts, and his illustrations are among the best and most stock worthy I've seen.

Anyway... I called it:


I guess the silver lining here would be that it only took them 3 days to reject it instead of the usual 7+ days. Now if only the scout didn't take so long... my oldest is going on 25 days now.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2009, 21:48 by Kngkyle »

LSD72

  • My Bologna has a first name...
« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2009, 22:39 »
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Guess I will show what I am throwing at them too.





Stock worthy? I dunno. I just like them.

« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2009, 23:42 »
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Just looking around IS.. here is someone who seems to have gotten their stuff on there.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_search.php?action=file&userID=509729

I am going to try out 2 Rastered Images just to see if they reject them on IS. 2 that were accepted at other sites and have some views going.

With SS, I have just failed my first application so I am wondering if I could / should throw some rasters in it next time?


he has nice stuff, but it doesn't tell his approval rating.

my approval for rasters (which are in no way comparable to his) is about 25% inc scout, my best selling dozen or so have been through scout :)  some subjects & types seem impossible without scout.
I once had a batch of 10 images rejected with a comment added,  "nice stuff, reupload as vector." :)



« Last Edit: May 19, 2009, 23:45 by Phil »

« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2009, 23:44 »
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Just looking around IS.. here is someone who seems to have gotten their stuff on there.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_search.php?action=file&userID=509729

I am going to try out 2 Rastered Images just to see if they reject them on IS. 2 that were accepted at other sites and have some views going.

With SS, I have just failed my first application so I am wondering if I could / should throw some rasters in it next time?


just seen he has been a member for 3.5 years and has 58 files

« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2009, 03:03 »
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Trying to get a basic/simple rastered image on iStock is imo.. close to impossible and extremely frustrating  :'( I've got 15.000 images on SS (and usually over 10.000 with other major sites) while iStock has so far accepted 27 LOL  :o On the bright side: life has gotten a lot less frustrating now that i've stopped regular uploads on iStock and plan to stop uploading alltogether  :) No more cursing on best match changes/horrific uploading/weird policies/insert other complaint   ;D




« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2009, 03:16 »
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Wow, those 27 uploads have 1356 downloads.  istock should be trying to get your portfolio on their site.

Their policy is wrong but it is one of several reasons why they will find it impossible to dominate the market, so in a way I hope they don't change.  It is healthy for the buyers to have competitive sites that have something to offer that istock doesn't.

Noodles

« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2009, 03:40 »
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Wow, those 27 uploads have 1356 downloads.  istock should be trying to get your portfolio on their site.

Their policy is wrong but it is one of several reasons why they will find it impossible to dominate the market, so in a way I hope they don't change.  It is healthy for the buyers to have competitive sites that have something to offer that istock doesn't.


Less is more :)


« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2009, 04:00 »
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Wow, those 27 uploads have 1356 downloads.  istock should be trying to get your portfolio on their site.
Less is more :)

Exactly what I thought when I see 10.000+ images on Dreamstime of which less than 2% had 10 or more sales. There are certainly quite a few brillant images among them. Why not drop the other 98% and double the amount of work spent on the rest...

Milinz

« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2009, 04:29 »
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Wow, those 27 uploads have 1356 downloads.  istock should be trying to get your portfolio on their site.
Less is more :)

Exactly what I thought when I see 10.000+ images on Dreamstime of which less than 2% had 10 or more sales. There are certainly quite a few brillant images among them. Why not drop the other 98% and double the amount of work spent on the rest...


Because that images are sold for miserable 30-50 cents commissions to authors. And, please learn a bit of economy before you start to speak loud.

In mass there should not be found one of your quality images - if you have two, five or six thousands images you will have more sales. It is the way things are set up. No one and nothing can change that volume has advance over quality on microstock!


 

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