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Agency Based Discussion => iStockPhoto.com => Topic started by: Artist on February 23, 2017, 01:45

Title: I don't understand Getty
Post by: Artist on February 23, 2017, 01:45
I don't understand why is getty and iStock making is too complicated.
Why don't they keep it simple?

You have deepmeta and qHero to upload? Why? Why cannot be there an easy method to upload like all other agencies doing like shutterstock, fotolia etc. Why can't there be simple FTP or browser upload.
The keyword selection, choosing categories, I find it more time consuming than all other channels. The interface, why making it too complicated to understand.

ESP, why can't they keep it easy to understand, why adding complications.
keep it simple.. JUST KEEP IT SIMPLE
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: Justanotherphotographer on February 23, 2017, 01:58
It is simple. They just dump a spreadsheet without having to pay decent developers. Or do you mean simple for us? That's because they don't give a ****.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: qunamax on February 23, 2017, 04:14
qHero and DeepMeta are actually independently developed to make the upload process easier, they are not developed by IS.
While using DeepMeta, the only thing that really slows me down is the useless IS curated dictionary or whatever they call it. I can't login in DeepMeta3 so I can't comment if it's any easier than it used to be, but by jusdging by the current ESP upload IS is still using that.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: Chichikov on February 23, 2017, 04:56
I don't understand why is getty and iStock making is too complicated.
Why don't they keep it simple?


You have deepmeta and qHero to upload? Why? Why cannot be there an easy method to upload like all other agencies doing like shutterstock, fotolia etc. Why can't there be simple FTP or browser upload.
The keyword selection, choosing categories, I find it more time consuming than all other channels. The interface, why making it too complicated to understand.

ESP, why can't they keep it easy to understand, why adding complications.
keep it simple.. JUST KEEP IT SIMPLE

The more complicated they do, the better they can scrеw you ...
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: ShadySue on February 23, 2017, 05:02
Mushroom management.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: worriedistocker on February 23, 2017, 07:03
qHero and DeepMeta are actually independently developed to make the upload process easier, they are not developed by IS.
While using DeepMeta, the only thing that really slows me down is the useless IS curated dictionary or whatever they call it. I can't login in DeepMeta3 so I can't comment if it's any easier than it used to be, but by jusdging by the current ESP upload IS is still using that.

The old Deepmeta was awesome and a joy to use, but 3.x had to comply with this new ESP thing and has made everything ten times more complicated than it needs to be.

I've stopped uploading so I don't really care anymore.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: Artist on February 23, 2017, 07:07
I don't understand why is getty and iStock making is too complicated.
Why don't they keep it simple?


You have deepmeta and qHero to upload? Why? Why cannot be there an easy method to upload like all other agencies doing like shutterstock, fotolia etc. Why can't there be simple FTP or browser upload.
The keyword selection, choosing categories, I find it more time consuming than all other channels. The interface, why making it too complicated to understand.

ESP, why can't they keep it easy to understand, why adding complications.
keep it simple.. JUST KEEP IT SIMPLE

The more complicated they do, the better they can scrеw you ...

This is what they are doing now. Such big companies, I think should look on increasing sales, doing marketing and making contributor happy... not in just spending huge amount of money in developing same tools and presenting it in a new plate.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: Artist on February 23, 2017, 07:10
qHero and DeepMeta are actually independently developed to make the upload process easier, they are not developed by IS.
While using DeepMeta, the only thing that really slows me down is the useless IS curated dictionary or whatever they call it. I can't login in DeepMeta3 so I can't comment if it's any easier than it used to be, but by jusdging by the current ESP upload IS is still using that.

The old Deepmeta was awesome and a joy to use, but 3.x had to comply with this new ESP thing and has made everything ten times more complicated than it needs to be.

I've stopped uploading so I don't really care anymore.

I have also put everything on hold unless a clearer picture is available.
I have already sent email to them and not expecting the reply soon as this is what I got in auto-reply.

"We are dealing with a high volume of queries at the moment, so appreciate your patience. Tickets are prioritized according to urgency and we will respond as soon as possible. "
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: Brasilnut on February 23, 2017, 10:45
On perhaps a positive note, they used to be really strict on the technical side and these days pretty much accept anything.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: pancaketom on February 23, 2017, 10:58
They need to do something to justify the 85% or more of each sale they keep.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: Pauws99 on February 23, 2017, 11:18
I don't understand why is getty and iStock making is too complicated.
Why don't they keep it simple?


You have deepmeta and qHero to upload? Why? Why cannot be there an easy method to upload like all other agencies doing like shutterstock, fotolia etc. Why can't there be simple FTP or browser upload.
The keyword selection, choosing categories, I find it more time consuming than all other channels. The interface, why making it too complicated to understand.

ESP, why can't they keep it easy to understand, why adding complications.
keep it simple.. JUST KEEP IT SIMPLE

The more complicated they do, the better they can scrеw you ...

This is what they are doing now. Such big companies, I think should look on increasing sales, doing marketing and making contributor happy... not in just spending huge amount of money in developing same tools and presenting it in a new plate.
They haven't developed any new tools as far as I can tell they've just dumped a text file on us and done a few very basic excel charts.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: Digital66 on February 23, 2017, 11:57
On perhaps a positive note, they used to be really strict on the technical side and these days pretty much accept anything.
It's been several years since they've been accepting anything.  And that's never been positive at all.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: Brightontl on February 23, 2017, 12:28
I have never been with them.
But there is something I don't understand: everyone says they are evil and nobody should work with them.
But then 8 threads out of 10 here (and the more popular ones) regard istock, suggesting that almost everyone uploads there
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: Digital66 on February 23, 2017, 12:31
They need to do something to justify the 85% or more of each sale they keep.
But they won't.  They just think they are entitled to do whatever they want.   And they know there will always be stupid or desperate people willing to work for even less. 
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: Artist on February 23, 2017, 12:36
I have never been with them.
But there is something I don't understand: everyone says they are evil and nobody should work with them.
But then 8 threads out of 10 here (and the more popular ones) regard istock, suggesting that almost everyone uploads there

when you say "everyone" it doesn't mean all contributors. You should say many as this forum itself have 37552 members as of now with 100s of active users which only see the posts and don't reply to it.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: flywing on February 23, 2017, 13:00
I have never been with them.
But there is something I don't understand: everyone says they are evil and nobody should work with them.
But then 8 threads out of 10 here (and the more popular ones) regard istock, suggesting that almost everyone uploads there

Or USED to upload there.

I have an account there, just have stopped uploading for months now.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: pancaketom on February 23, 2017, 13:10
I have never been with them.
But there is something I don't understand: everyone says they are evil and nobody should work with them.
But then 8 threads out of 10 here (and the more popular ones) regard istock, suggesting that almost everyone uploads there

Or USED to upload there.

I have an account there, just have stopped uploading for months now.

Many of us used to make a lot there. I personally stopped uploading with the RC announcement and then deleted almost all my files with another one (there have been so many I can't even remember what it was) but I keep a few live so I can keep my toe in the water to see if they ever pulled their heads out of their @#$# and were worth dealing with again. So far no.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: JimP on February 23, 2017, 14:35
I don't understand why is getty and iStock making is too complicated.
Why don't they keep it simple?


You have deepmeta and qHero to upload? Why? Why cannot be there an easy method to upload like all other agencies doing like shutterstock, fotolia etc. Why can't there be simple FTP or browser upload.
The keyword selection, choosing categories, I find it more time consuming than all other channels. The interface, why making it too complicated to understand.

ESP, why can't they keep it easy to understand, why adding complications.
keep it simple.. JUST KEEP IT SIMPLE

The more complicated they do, the better they can scrеw you ...

ditto that was my first thought when I saw that the txt was all kinds of information we didn't need. Make columns selectible or some short form available. If we want all the redundant data, we can check boxes to see it.

I want to see, what sold, when, what license, and how much I made. I know that everything is 15% now.

Is there anything that shows total sales or totals for files like everyplace else. Oh nevermind, all old data has now been purged we start over as mushrooms.

No new uploads from me.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: RAW on February 23, 2017, 17:35
I've been with Getty for several years. Don't try to understand them. As soon as you do they will change the system.

When I first started there were no keywords only 'emotional phrases'  :P
It's been changing like that ever since.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: hairybiker777 on February 23, 2017, 18:31
I'm completely lost! I can log into the new DeepMeta but I can only see my images in the old Deepmeta. The browser plug-in script that used to show my account balance no longer shows it, and it doesn't show any sales since mid-December. I haven't got a clue what to do with ESP. The only bit of good news in all this chaos is that because I didn't know how my sales were going, I just got a payout that I wasn't expecting :)
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: AlessandraRC on February 23, 2017, 23:19
The reality is, despite all evil people say against istock, it is worth it. On average I make 0.28c per image subscription on istock, contrasting with the 0.25 on SS.  On some months they represent my best earner. I don't know what will happen now with the new royalties. I've stopped uploading for a while and will just observe.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: wordplanet on February 23, 2017, 23:20
I checked out the new site and can't figure out where my images are. Any help would be appreciated. I don't want to start yet another thread.   

EDIT: So I saw Shady Sue's advice in another thread to find one of my images and then click on the link to my name. Is this really the only way to see your own portfolio? Mind-boggling.




Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: PigsInSpace on February 23, 2017, 23:45
I hit payout and they're mailing me a check. Uhh, I have a Paypal account. You guys have used it before. Oh Getty...
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: dpimborough on February 24, 2017, 02:55
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Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: dpimborough on February 24, 2017, 02:56
The reality is, despite all evil people say against istock, it is worth it. On average I make 0.28c per image subscription on istock, contrasting with the 0.25 on SS.  On some months they represent my best earner. I don't know what will happen now with the new royalties. I've stopped uploading for a while and will just observe.

Check it out you are stuck with 28 cents forever with iStock/Thinkstock partner program sales.  You are also stuck on 15% royalties forever with iStock unless you become exclusive.

And what do you make of the 2.7 cent 3.3 cent royalties iStock are paying you?

Shutterstock will increase your royalties once you make $500 in sales to 33 cents then 36 cents once you get $3000 and 38 cents once you reach $10,000

Your On demand and Single on Demand rates will also go up too.

Same for Fotolia/Adobe and Even DT increase rates as you sell more.

Didn't you read the rate cards when you signed up?
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: Justanotherphotographer on February 24, 2017, 03:03
That and istock is making lots of sales for much, much less than 25c. Sometimes for fractions of a cent in the case of connect. Just take look those reports from esp. Oh, and they also have history of giving away outrageous rights for very little like the google deal.

There is no comparison between istock/ getty's treatment of contributors and their content and any other one of the 5 or 6 top sites.  They truly are in a league of their own.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: Pauws99 on February 24, 2017, 03:14
The reality is, despite all evil people say against istock, it is worth it. On average I make 0.28c per image subscription on istock, contrasting with the 0.25 on SS.  On some months they represent my best earner. I don't know what will happen now with the new royalties. I've stopped uploading for a while and will just observe.
Even though they're your best earner you've stopped? Says it all really when even people who do well there are so demotivated.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: Justanotherphotographer on February 24, 2017, 03:41
I also do quite well there and have seen upswing the last few months. How could I not when they are selling our work for a couple of cents? They can undercut any of the other agencies. I am giving up 2000+ dollars a month but I am happy to do it because I still want to be able to afford my mortgage in a couple of years. I won't be helping them screw me over by taking sales from sites that actually pay me a decent rpd or starting a price war.

I really think we are like lobsters in a pot.  They have gradually turned up the heat and we haven't even noticed. Who would have signed a contract agreeing to license their work for 2c? Well it isn't scaremongering and those sales and worse have been happening for months now.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: polar on February 24, 2017, 11:06
I hit payout and they're mailing me a check. Uhh, I have a Paypal account. You guys have used it before. Oh Getty...

This is concerning. I want to keep my payouts in US dollars in my PayPal account, which I use for making online purchases in USD. If they sent me a check, I'd be forced to convert currencies and pay extra fees.

In ESP account management>payment>payment options, it shows my PayPal account has been selected. Did you have PayPal listed there and they sent you a check anyway? Or was the payment option changed in ESP for some reason?   
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: PigsInSpace on February 24, 2017, 15:33
Somehow it got changed to Payoneer. I changed it back yesterday.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: polar on February 24, 2017, 17:33
Somehow it got changed to Payoneer. I changed it back yesterday.

Okay, thanks. Do you think this was related to the switch to ESP? I'm wondering if I should keep checking on it to make sure there's no random, out-of-the-blue switches.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: PigsInSpace on February 25, 2017, 02:49
 I have no idea. It seems like a reasonable conclusion, that it was related to the switch. There's always the off chance that I somehow changed the box myself by accident.
Title: Re: I don't understand Getty
Post by: caraman on March 02, 2017, 11:14
I agree, I quit uploading anything new because it's become such a clusterf**k.  In the words of our Dear Leader, sad