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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2019, 04:32 »
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i left istock a while back too, it was right in the middle of one of their accounting errors, a lot of copntributors had extra cash in their accounts. as it turns out this was also an accounting error and they istock were going to correct the error and lots of accounts were put in red. i also had like $100 extra in my account, but i closed my account and requested pay out. i got the money and my accont was closed. they never recouped their money from me, i must have been in a rare category to be able to take money from istock instead of the other way around lol,

or maybe they kept selling stuff until they evened out.

Hard decision to use third party work without a contract.
More likely they losed $100 than risking a scandal.
Well not losed, splited the loss to all other sales,
it would be like $0,0000000001 minus in every royalties payed.


« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2019, 06:09 »
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I quit today too :) Caooo istock...

« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2019, 08:41 »
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I quit today too :) Caooo istock...

Feels good, doesn't it?   :D

wds

« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2019, 08:47 »
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I often wonder who the new people are coming to iStock and how they decide to become exclusive given it is a much more murky decision than it was years ago.

« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2019, 09:08 »
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I often wonder who the new people are coming to iStock and how they decide to become exclusive given it is a much more murky decision than it was years ago.


Clearly they dont read or do any research, or they have a big ego and think their work is the bomb. Almost every week you see someone here talking about going exclusive...after all the posts about what a bad idea it is!

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2019, 09:48 »
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Can someone give me some more info about this australian refund? Why is it?

Real short version, they billed at AUD Australian and paid us at USD dollars. It's not a refund and resale as many thought happened, it's a correction of an accounting error that runs back into 2018.

Looks like this:


Instead of a $1 DL for 15 cents, I get a 50 sale for 8 cents. It's not a retroactive deal, it's an accounting correction.

Of course, none of us like it, but that's what happened, nothing underhanded or back door dealing like some other places have done to us. But people still upload to those places?  ::)

Anyone who goes exclusive after this and the last few years of disaster, deserves what they get. No crying when just about everyone has tried to warn them.  ;D

I'd leave, but I don't upload and I just look once a month. After they screwed me and removed 3,657 of my images, I'm done with new, and back when we could I removed a slew of images. My collection there is 733 and if I feel like being stupid over the Winter I'll make it an even 1,000 and then, to quote the Raven, Nevermore...

Updated a day later, I should add, that during one of the boycott and delete events, I deactivated a couple thousand of my own images.  ;) I left the Editorial because that's what sold best.

Oh good a thread with the complete answer. I deleted my email right after I read it.

https://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/this-is-all-we-got-a-sorry/
« Last Edit: September 26, 2019, 10:53 by Uncle Pete »

« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2019, 12:14 »
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So you get 8 cents from Getty instead of 35 cents from Canva and people wonder why people are bitter and angry at the agencies (but I can't see why Canva has switched all the sales over if they are paying Getty 50 cents instead of us 35 cents). I wonder how long it will be before there is a 3-agency sale (or if we are already getting the pennies from that). Just imagine how much more we will make when 3 or more agencies each take their compound cut before we get ours. Even at a mythical unsustainable 50% split we would only get 12.5% of a 3-agency sale and 6.25% of a 4-agency sale. Now think about that with only getting 15-30% of each split. sigh.

« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2019, 12:58 »
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I made the request few days ago to close my account and my ticket are still pending. Maybe other members are closing too with all the funny refund ...  :o

« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2019, 13:34 »
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In case anyone is looking for the way to close your account, it's this:
In esp go to Account Management and select the "contact us" tab.
When it asks you to select category. choose Agreement. Click on "next" and select close account.

First of all, congratulations with your wise decision. Thanks also for your tips on closing down the account. Could you please clarify two more points:

1) do you have an idea how long does it take them to pay out the balance once the decision on closing down the account has been made? Is it during the next payout cycle (20th of the month) or much later?

2) I remember when reading the agreement some time ago that in case of termination they have a right to keep selling all of your portfolio for 6 months and only then delete all of your assets permanently. Is it still the case? Don't have the guts to go through all the legal text but perhaps iStock informed you about this at the time of closing down the account.

Many thanks.

ShadySue

« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2019, 13:56 »
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I've read reports of people being paid dribs and drabs many months after quitting.

Many of the late payments relate to partner sites. They don't guarantee to get your assets off partner sites fast.

« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2019, 02:30 »
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I made the request few days ago to close my account and my ticket are still pending. Maybe other members are closing too with all the funny refund ...  :o

Isn't there a notice period between cancelling the contract and the work having to be taken down?  That should start running from the date the closure ticket was created, in which case it shouldn't make any difference if it takes them a week or two to get round to dealing with it.

« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2019, 04:18 »
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It's not my portfolio is still online

ShadySue

« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2019, 05:26 »
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From the non-exclusive supplier agreement:
"12. Effect of Termination
a. Upon the termination of this Agreement with respect to one or more of Photo Content, Illustration Content or Video Content, the grant of authority given to iStock shall cease with respect to the relevant category of Content subject to the following conditions:
(i) iStock shall remove the applicable Accepted Content from the iStock Site and distribution partners within ninety (90) days of the termination of this Agreement;
(ii) notwithstanding termination, iStock and its distribution partners shall have the right to continue licensing Accepted Content until it is removed from the iStock Site or other sites where Accepted Content is distributed and for up to (1) year following termination where such Accepted Content has previously appeared in iStock's promotional materials, or Distribution Partner marketing programs;
(iii) regardless of the expiration or termination of this Agreement, iStock will continue, in accordance with this Agreement, to pay compensation due to you at the applicable non-exclusive royalty rate set out in the Rate Card in respect of licenses granted to members during any transitional period, subject to any rights of set-off under this Agreement or at law; and
(iv) where a customer reports a license of your Content that was delivered to the customer prior to the termination of this Agreement, iStock shall pay such applicable royalties to you within 60 days of reporting of a license by the customer.

b. Upon termination, iStock will be entitled to retain all amounts owing to you for a period of thirty (30) days to determine any applicable rights of set-off, and shall be entitled to deduct from such amounts, a reasonable administrative fee for establishing, managing and terminating your account."

« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2019, 05:47 »
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thank you ....

« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2019, 13:51 »
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I wrote a OptED piece 14 Years ago that "Sooner Or later we will be getting 5 Or 10 Cents a DL."

farbled

« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2019, 14:48 »
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I wrote a OptED piece 14 Years ago that "Sooner Or later we will be getting 5 Or 10 Cents a DL."

Looks like you were wrong about that. People are getting much less.

« Last Edit: September 25, 2019, 15:01 by farbled »

« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2019, 15:08 »
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I wrote a OptED piece 14 Years ago that "Sooner Or later we will be getting 5 Or 10 Cents a DL."

Looks like you were wrong about that. People are getting much less.


Not really. He was in the ballpark.



farbled

« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2019, 15:28 »
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I wrote a OptED piece 14 Years ago that "Sooner Or later we will be getting 5 Or 10 Cents a DL."

Looks like you were wrong about that. People are getting much less.


Not really. He was in the ballpark.

Throw enough things at the wall and something is bound to stick. He said a lot of things. 14 years ago it was 25 cents a download in a lot of places. Now (since this thread is about istock) people are posting that they make less than a cent at times, or pennies. Maybe the right country, but not the right ballpark in my opinion.

« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2019, 16:24 »
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I wrote a OptED piece 14 Years ago that "Sooner Or later we will be getting 5 Or 10 Cents a DL."

Looks like you were wrong about that. People are getting much less.


Not really. He was in the ballpark.

Throw enough things at the wall and something is bound to stick. He said a lot of things. 14 years ago it was 25 cents a download in a lot of places. Now (since this thread is about istock) people are posting that they make less than a cent at times, or pennies. Maybe the right country, but not the right ballpark in my opinion.


Sounds like no matter what he says, you will have a problem with it. I have noticed a few people here just love busting his balls. 🙄

farbled

« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2019, 17:53 »
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I wrote a OptED piece 14 Years ago that "Sooner Or later we will be getting 5 Or 10 Cents a DL."

Looks like you were wrong about that. People are getting much less.


Not really. He was in the ballpark.

Throw enough things at the wall and something is bound to stick. He said a lot of things. 14 years ago it was 25 cents a download in a lot of places. Now (since this thread is about istock) people are posting that they make less than a cent at times, or pennies. Maybe the right country, but not the right ballpark in my opinion.


Sounds like no matter what he says, you will have a problem with it. I have noticed a few people here just love busting his balls. 🙄
Actually I used to get along with him til I posted on SS that people taking advice from others should know more about why the (expert) was posting. After that mild post, I received a page long PM filled with the vilest, nastiest, and most importantly, poorly phrased diatribe I have ever received. Uncalled for, unprofessional, and in talking to others, not uncommon. So yeah, my one post here taking his irrelevant brag post in a thread about an agency he was thrown out of, sure. I'll bust his balls on it.
I am also very happy to post the PM here so you can see who you're sticking up for. :) I used to be you.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2019, 17:56 by farbled »

farbled

« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2019, 18:01 »
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I have noticed a few people here just love busting his balls. 🙄
Kinda makes you wonder why after a while, doesn't it?

« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2019, 18:07 »
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I have noticed a few people here just love busting his balls. 🙄
Kinda makes you wonder why after a while, doesn't it?


I dont wonder. Some people are just bullies. Especially when they can hide behind fake names. If you dont like him, fair enough. Do you (and everyone else that does it) have to call him out every freakin time he says something? He has never been anything but kind to me. He has a lot of experience, for many years. Theres an ignore button, if he bugs you that much. Just an idea.

farbled

« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2019, 18:42 »
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I have noticed a few people here just love busting his balls. 🙄
Kinda makes you wonder why after a while, doesn't it?


I dont wonder. Some people are just bullies. Especially when they can hide behind fake names. If you dont like him, fair enough. Do you (and everyone else that does it) have to call him out every freakin time he says something? He has never been anything but kind to me. He has a lot of experience, for many years. Theres an ignore button, if he bugs you that much. Just an idea.
edited:
not worth the argument

Farbled aka: Terry Davis, farbled.com,  aka, trailer trash plop and shoot hack (guess who came up with that, without a reason)
« Last Edit: September 25, 2019, 18:52 by farbled »

« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2019, 20:10 »
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Oh bummer, he left.

« Reply #49 on: September 26, 2019, 00:29 »
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