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Agency Based Discussion => iStockPhoto.com => Topic started by: BaldricksTrousers on September 20, 2019, 03:42
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I've done it. After 15 years and six months I finally gave them the boot.
I hung in there so long because they were my first agency and taught me a lot, so I didn't like to part from them. Also, I felt that having put the effort into uploading the files, I might as well let them earn as much as possible. However, all the bizarre deals they have that seem to let my files go for fractions of a cent etc etc, and now the backdated refunds, leave me wondering whether I'm not giving away some stuff that people would pay for at other sites. Some of my work is sufficiently different for it not to be easily substituted by somebody else's - not a lot of it, maybe, but some.
With the latest earnings down to less than $30 this month (for about 6,000 files, I made more than $10 in my first month with just a few dozen shots) it's not a major loss. Maybe it will lead to an uptick in sales as Shutterstock to compensate.
For those wondering what happens to the balance of earnings that iStock holds, it seems they will be paid eventually. The form for terminating the agreement states:
I confirm that I want to have any outstanding royalties issued on the time specified by my Agreement (most standard agreements specify any outstanding balance is to be issued within 90 days of your request to close your account)
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Their automated reply:
Thank you for contacting Getty Images. Your Contributor Services Ticket CS0335417 has been opened on 09-20-2019 01:21 PDT. We are dealing with a high volume of queries at the moment, so appreciate your patience. Tickets are prioritized according to urgency and we will respond as soon as possible. Remember, you can resolve many queries yourself using Account Management and find answers to common questions in our new FAQs. Just click on the “Need Help?” link in the top right corner of ESP: https://esp.gettyimages.com. If you do find the answer to your issue, please close your ticket by logging into ESP and visiting https://contributorsystems.gettyimages.com/Help/Tickets so we can move on to help someone else. Thank you again for your patience.
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Istock is for naive contributors only.
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Today, for the first time since I started microstock, I consider to quit Istock photo ( I stopped IS video few years before). Slow sales, low percentage, fraction of cents deals and now this Australian refunds scandal. It's too much.
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Can someone give me some more info about this australian refund? Why is it?
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Can someone give me some more info about this australian refund? Why is it?
According to another thread Getty negotiated a new (worse for us) deal with Canva and then agreed to have it backdated for years, so sales that had been the right price when they were made suddenly became overpriced months or years later and Canva got a refund.
I don't know what the source of that information is, though - so I can't guarantee that it's right. It does sound crazy enough to be a Getty deal, though (and personally, I wouldn't trust them not to dump the entire cost of the refund on contributors through some shady but technically legal loophole).
There's an official explanation now involving a history of accounting errors.
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I quit too ! Today ! I'm done with this not transparency agency that hold our money, no live stat, low % for unexclusive. I had more sale than other month but lowest earning. There's a probleme here. Stop beeing naive.
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I quit too ! Today ! I'm done with this not transparency agency that hold our money, no live stat, low % for unexclusive. I had more sale than other month but lowest earning. There's a probleme here. Stop beeing naive.
We are FREEEEE Julie D, we're FREE!
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Yess !BYEBYE Istock ! I don't know how long it will take to be close. But I'm Glad I finally quit. And I regret I haven't did this before.
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I have also just opened a support ticket to close my account.
I have hesitated to do it for a long time, but all these refunds was the last drop.
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In case anyone is looking for the way to close your account, it's this:
In esp go to Account Management and select the "contact us" tab.
When it asks you to select category. choose Agreement. Click on "next" and select close account.
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Good. More for me to sell...
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Good. More for me to sell...
frankly, chum, if you split my earnings between 5 million istock submitters you'll probably be looking at picking up one of those 0.000000001c sales.
But whatever makes you happy... ;D
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Good. More for me to sell...
You can get all the refunds
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I stock but not Istock!
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I am happy I stopped feeding them (iStock) two years ago. I did not regret it. I am a lifetime professional, now retired, and the last eight years I am doing stock for the fun of it. I enjoy the process. All my life so far I have learned to create high quality photo works that stands up in both commercial photography business and microstock markets. My Work is worth more than the pennies this shady iStock agency decides to pay. So in respect of the efforts I put to create my photos, I decided that iStock IS NOT QUALIFIED TO HAVE MY PHOTO WORKS ANY MORE. Further I would like to encourage all stock photo contributors who feel they are being "used" by agencies like iStock, to consider submitting their work to agencies that give Value to the Works they produce. I believe we all should keep in mind that Respecting Our Efforts translates to respecting ourselves.
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I'm considering that, not mainly because I want to express my frustration or resentment. But I'm worried about the same contents I have at better paying agencies getting cannibalized by this.
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I've done it. After 15 years and six months I finally gave them the boot.
With the latest earnings down to less than $30 this month (for about 6,000 files, I made more than $10 in my first month with just a few dozen shots) it's not a major loss. Maybe it will lead to an uptick in sales as Shutterstock to compensate.
Its not about the portfolio. Its all about your time invested. 6000 files in 15 Years is about 400 files a Year, or 33 files a month.
I am shooting mostly food. For 33 files a month i invest about 3 hours work. For 3 hours work you get $30 at istock and maybe $ 100 from the others. Meaning you get $130 at month for only 3 hours work. Or $43 for one hours work.
This isn't bad if you are doing stock beside a full-time job.
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I've done it. After 15 years and six months I finally gave them the boot.
With the latest earnings down to less than $30 this month (for about 6,000 files, I made more than $10 in my first month with just a few dozen shots) it's not a major loss. Maybe it will lead to an uptick in sales as Shutterstock to compensate.
Its not about the portfolio. Its all about your time invested. 6000 files in 15 Years is about 400 files a Year, or 33 files a month.
I am shooting mostly food. For 33 files a month i invest about 3 hours work. For 3 hours work you get $30 at istock and maybe $ 100 from the others. Meaning you get $130 at month for only 3 hours work. Or $43 for one hours work.
This isn't bad if you are doing stock beside a full-time job.
That's a fair point as far as it goes (though my food shots took much longer than that as it invariably involved planning, purchasing and cooking as well as shooting and processing, usually to get half-a-dozen shots) and you're ignoring investment in equipment etc. However, my issue is not the money, if it was I wouldn't be on Canstock for example, it's the way iStock treats its submitters.
Incidentally, if you look at your calculation from the perspective of a beginner it looks rather different: to build up to a monthly income of $30 involves shooting and uploading 6,000 files (assuming no rejections), or about 600 hours work - 20 weeks of 30 hours each, and only at the end of that do you get up to $30, on average it is $15 per month for the first five months, so you're working full time for almost half a year to earn $90. And that's without counting a thousand or two spent on equipment and props.
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Question here : when closing the account, Am I gonna be paid for september sales on october ? I ask because I don't trust them at all.
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the closure agreement seems to make clear that you do get your cash.
While I hate the games they play, I've never seen any sign that they don't pay out cash that they owe. They keep on the right side of the law.
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Thank you for your answer ! I'm officially out !
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In 12 years I never had a single refund from shutterstock (...yet). What are they doing that istuck can't?
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i left istock a while back too, it was right in the middle of one of their accounting errors, a lot of copntributors had extra cash in their accounts. as it turns out this was also an accounting error and they istock were going to correct the error and lots of accounts were put in red. i also had like $100 extra in my account, but i closed my account and requested pay out. i got the money and my accont was closed. they never recouped their money from me, i must have been in a rare category to be able to take money from istock instead of the other way around lol,
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i left istock a while back too, it was right in the middle of one of their accounting errors, a lot of copntributors had extra cash in their accounts. as it turns out this was also an accounting error and they istock were going to correct the error and lots of accounts were put in red. i also had like $100 extra in my account, but i closed my account and requested pay out. i got the money and my accont was closed. they never recouped their money from me, i must have been in a rare category to be able to take money from istock instead of the other way around lol,
or maybe they kept selling stuff until they evened out.
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i left istock a while back too, it was right in the middle of one of their accounting errors, a lot of copntributors had extra cash in their accounts. as it turns out this was also an accounting error and they istock were going to correct the error and lots of accounts were put in red. i also had like $100 extra in my account, but i closed my account and requested pay out. i got the money and my accont was closed. they never recouped their money from me, i must have been in a rare category to be able to take money from istock instead of the other way around lol,
or maybe they kept selling stuff until they evened out.
Hard decision to use third party work without a contract.
More likely they losed $100 than risking a scandal.
Well not losed, splited the loss to all other sales,
it would be like $0,0000000001 minus in every royalties payed.
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I quit today too :) Caooo istock...
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I quit today too :) Caooo istock...
Feels good, doesn't it? :D
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I often wonder who the new people are coming to iStock and how they decide to become exclusive given it is a much more murky decision than it was years ago.
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I often wonder who the new people are coming to iStock and how they decide to become exclusive given it is a much more murky decision than it was years ago.
Clearly they don’t read or do any research, or they have a big ego and think their work is the bomb. Almost every week you see someone here talking about going exclusive...after all the posts about what a bad idea it is!
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Can someone give me some more info about this australian refund? Why is it?
Real short version, they billed at AUD Australian and paid us at USD dollars. It's not a refund and resale as many thought happened, it's a correction of an accounting error that runs back into 2018.
Looks like this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/4d8gFPfs/istock_clawback_one_example_aug_2019.jpg)
Instead of a $1 DL for 15 cents, I get a 50¢ sale for 8 cents. It's not a retroactive deal, it's an accounting correction.
Of course, none of us like it, but that's what happened, nothing underhanded or back door dealing like some other places have done to us. But people still upload to those places? ::)
Anyone who goes exclusive after this and the last few years of disaster, deserves what they get. No crying when just about everyone has tried to warn them. ;D
I'd leave, but I don't upload and I just look once a month. After they screwed me and removed 3,657 of my images, I'm done with new, and back when we could I removed a slew of images. My collection there is 733 and if I feel like being stupid over the Winter I'll make it an even 1,000 and then, to quote the Raven, Nevermore...
Updated a day later, I should add, that during one of the boycott and delete events, I deactivated a couple thousand of my own images. ;) I left the Editorial because that's what sold best.
Oh good a thread with the complete answer. I deleted my email right after I read it.
https://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/this-is-all-we-got-a-sorry/ (https://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/this-is-all-we-got-a-sorry/)
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So you get 8 cents from Getty instead of 35 cents from Canva and people wonder why people are bitter and angry at the agencies (but I can't see why Canva has switched all the sales over if they are paying Getty 50 cents instead of us 35 cents). I wonder how long it will be before there is a 3-agency sale (or if we are already getting the pennies from that). Just imagine how much more we will make when 3 or more agencies each take their compound cut before we get ours. Even at a mythical unsustainable 50% split we would only get 12.5% of a 3-agency sale and 6.25% of a 4-agency sale. Now think about that with only getting 15-30% of each split. sigh.
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I made the request few days ago to close my account and my ticket are still pending. Maybe other members are closing too with all the funny refund ... :o
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In case anyone is looking for the way to close your account, it's this:
In esp go to Account Management and select the "contact us" tab.
When it asks you to select category. choose Agreement. Click on "next" and select close account.
First of all, congratulations with your wise decision. Thanks also for your tips on closing down the account. Could you please clarify two more points:
1) do you have an idea how long does it take them to pay out the balance once the decision on closing down the account has been made? Is it during the next payout cycle (20th of the month) or much later?
2) I remember when reading the agreement some time ago that in case of termination they have a right to keep selling all of your portfolio for 6 months and only then delete all of your assets permanently. Is it still the case? Don't have the guts to go through all the legal text but perhaps iStock informed you about this at the time of closing down the account.
Many thanks.
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I've read reports of people being paid dribs and drabs many months after quitting.
Many of the late payments relate to partner sites. They don't guarantee to get your assets off partner sites fast.
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I made the request few days ago to close my account and my ticket are still pending. Maybe other members are closing too with all the funny refund ... :o
Isn't there a notice period between cancelling the contract and the work having to be taken down? That should start running from the date the closure ticket was created, in which case it shouldn't make any difference if it takes them a week or two to get round to dealing with it.
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It's not my portfolio is still online
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From the non-exclusive supplier agreement:
"12. Effect of Termination
a. Upon the termination of this Agreement with respect to one or more of Photo Content, Illustration Content or Video Content, the grant of authority given to iStock shall cease with respect to the relevant category of Content subject to the following conditions:
(i) iStock shall remove the applicable Accepted Content from the iStock Site and distribution partners within ninety (90) days of the termination of this Agreement;
(ii) notwithstanding termination, iStock and its distribution partners shall have the right to continue licensing Accepted Content until it is removed from the iStock Site or other sites where Accepted Content is distributed and for up to (1) year following termination where such Accepted Content has previously appeared in iStock's promotional materials, or Distribution Partner marketing programs;
(iii) regardless of the expiration or termination of this Agreement, iStock will continue, in accordance with this Agreement, to pay compensation due to you at the applicable non-exclusive royalty rate set out in the Rate Card in respect of licenses granted to members during any transitional period, subject to any rights of set-off under this Agreement or at law; and
(iv) where a customer reports a license of your Content that was delivered to the customer prior to the termination of this Agreement, iStock shall pay such applicable royalties to you within 60 days of reporting of a license by the customer.
b. Upon termination, iStock will be entitled to retain all amounts owing to you for a period of thirty (30) days to determine any applicable rights of set-off, and shall be entitled to deduct from such amounts, a reasonable administrative fee for establishing, managing and terminating your account."
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thank you ....
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I wrote a OptED piece 14 Years ago that "Sooner Or later we will be getting 5 Or 10 Cents a DL."
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I wrote a OptED piece 14 Years ago that "Sooner Or later we will be getting 5 Or 10 Cents a DL."
Looks like you were wrong about that. People are getting much less.
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I wrote a OptED piece 14 Years ago that "Sooner Or later we will be getting 5 Or 10 Cents a DL."
Looks like you were wrong about that. People are getting much less.
Not really. He was in the ballpark.
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I wrote a OptED piece 14 Years ago that "Sooner Or later we will be getting 5 Or 10 Cents a DL."
Looks like you were wrong about that. People are getting much less.
Not really. He was in the ballpark.
Throw enough things at the wall and something is bound to stick. He said a lot of things. 14 years ago it was 25 cents a download in a lot of places. Now (since this thread is about istock) people are posting that they make less than a cent at times, or pennies. Maybe the right country, but not the right ballpark in my opinion.
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I wrote a OptED piece 14 Years ago that "Sooner Or later we will be getting 5 Or 10 Cents a DL."
Looks like you were wrong about that. People are getting much less.
Not really. He was in the ballpark.
Throw enough things at the wall and something is bound to stick. He said a lot of things. 14 years ago it was 25 cents a download in a lot of places. Now (since this thread is about istock) people are posting that they make less than a cent at times, or pennies. Maybe the right country, but not the right ballpark in my opinion.
Sounds like no matter what he says, you will have a problem with it. I have noticed a few people here just love busting his balls. 🙄
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I wrote a OptED piece 14 Years ago that "Sooner Or later we will be getting 5 Or 10 Cents a DL."
Looks like you were wrong about that. People are getting much less.
Not really. He was in the ballpark.
Throw enough things at the wall and something is bound to stick. He said a lot of things. 14 years ago it was 25 cents a download in a lot of places. Now (since this thread is about istock) people are posting that they make less than a cent at times, or pennies. Maybe the right country, but not the right ballpark in my opinion.
Sounds like no matter what he says, you will have a problem with it. I have noticed a few people here just love busting his balls. 🙄
Actually I used to get along with him til I posted on SS that people taking advice from others should know more about why the (expert) was posting. After that mild post, I received a page long PM filled with the vilest, nastiest, and most importantly, poorly phrased diatribe I have ever received. Uncalled for, unprofessional, and in talking to others, not uncommon. So yeah, my one post here taking his irrelevant brag post in a thread about an agency he was thrown out of, sure. I'll bust his balls on it.
I am also very happy to post the PM here so you can see who you're sticking up for. :) I used to be you.
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I have noticed a few people here just love busting his balls. 🙄
Kinda makes you wonder why after a while, doesn't it?
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I have noticed a few people here just love busting his balls. 🙄
Kinda makes you wonder why after a while, doesn't it?
I don’t wonder. Some people are just bullies. Especially when they can hide behind fake names. If you don’t like him, fair enough. Do you (and everyone else that does it) have to call him out every freakin time he says something? He has never been anything but kind to me. He has a lot of experience, for many years. There’s an ignore button, if he bugs you that much. Just an idea.
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I have noticed a few people here just love busting his balls. 🙄
Kinda makes you wonder why after a while, doesn't it?
I don’t wonder. Some people are just bullies. Especially when they can hide behind fake names. If you don’t like him, fair enough. Do you (and everyone else that does it) have to call him out every freakin time he says something? He has never been anything but kind to me. He has a lot of experience, for many years. There’s an ignore button, if he bugs you that much. Just an idea.
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not worth the argument
Farbled aka: Terry Davis, farbled.com, aka, trailer trash plop and shoot hack (guess who came up with that, without a reason)
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Oh bummer, he left.
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Oh bummer, he left.
:'( ;D ;D
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I have noticed a few people here just love busting his balls. 🙄
Kinda makes you wonder why after a while, doesn't it?
I don’t wonder. Some people are just bullies. Especially when they can hide behind fake names. If you don’t like him, fair enough. Do you (and everyone else that does it) have to call him out every freakin time he says something? He has never been anything but kind to me. He has a lot of experience, for many years. There’s an ignore button, if he bugs you that much. Just an idea.
Some people just can’t let go of a grudge... to their own detriment
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Oh bummer, he left.
Red flags because you defend a forum bully and liar when we try to tell the truth to warn others. Why don't you take your own advices and ignore us?
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Am I the only one that haven't received my august payment yet ?
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Am I the only one that haven't received my august payment yet ?
Yes, you are the only one. What a silly question.
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Am I the only one that haven't received my august payment yet ?
Yes, you are the only one. What a silly question.
You have been answered by a Clair Voyant. :D
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Am I the only one that haven't received my august payment yet ?
Yes, you are the only one. What a silly question.
You have been answered by a Clair Voyant. :D
Hardly a clairvoyant. If i was truly a clairvoyant I would recongnize the question as a rhetorical one. If you think about it though, she must be the only one, nobody else has brought it up. ;)
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JAFO (is that your real name, or a lie? ;) )
What has he lied about? Looks like a lot of talent to me.
https://www.discomusic.com/57-laurin-rinder (https://www.discomusic.com/57-laurin-rinder)
https://www.rinderart.com/about.html (https://www.rinderart.com/about.html)
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JAFO (is that your real name, or a lie? ;) )
What has he lied about? Looks like a lot of talent to me.
https://www.discomusic.com/57-laurin-rinder (https://www.discomusic.com/57-laurin-rinder)
https://www.rinderart.com/about.html (https://www.rinderart.com/about.html)
Rinderart is one of the few that actually understands the decline of the industry and what a joke it has become.
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I wrote a OptED piece 14 Years ago that "Sooner Or later we will be getting 5 Or 10 Cents a DL."
are you seriously claiming to have predicted this decline by saying sooner or later the price will drop?? applause!
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Oh bummer, he left.
Red flags because you defend a forum bully and liar when we try to tell the truth to warn others. Why don't you take your own advices and ignore us?
you are dealing with the 3 biggest ignorant f*cks on this site, cathy, laurin and lagereek, the 3 amigos. better log off and continue the conversation elsewhere
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All right, boys, put your little twig and berries back in your pants, your insecurities are showing. LOL.
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Oh bummer, he left.
Red flags because you defend a forum bully and liar when we try to tell the truth to warn others. Why don't you take your own advices and ignore us?
https://www.discomusic.com/57-laurin-rinder (https://www.discomusic.com/57-laurin-rinder)
Let’s see your list of accomplishments. Oh wait, you don’t even use your real name.
Liar!
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I wrote a OptED piece 14 Years ago that "Sooner Or later we will be getting 5 Or 10 Cents a DL."
are you seriously claiming to have predicted this decline by saying sooner or later the price will drop?? applause!
Did you predict anything? I bet not.
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Oh bummer, he left.
Red flags because you defend a forum bully and liar when we try to tell the truth to warn others. Why don't you take your own advices and ignore us?
you are dealing with the 3 biggest ignorant f*cks on this site, cathy, laurin and lagereek, the 3 amigos. better log off and continue the conversation elsewhere
You are pretty much showing your ignorance right there.
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I have noticed a few people here just love busting his balls. 🙄
Kinda makes you wonder why after a while, doesn't it?
Lots of big male egos here, that’s why. ;)
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After 4 years i am quitting Istock too. Constantly declining sales, insulting 15% and 0.00003$ sells. I should have quit much earlier.
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After 4 years i am quitting Istock too. Constantly declining sales, insulting 15% and 0.00003$ sells. I should have quit much earlier.
The royalty percentage of 15% was there when you joined. They keep it that way because most contributors with large ports won't leave as the income makes it worthwhile to stay, and contributors with small ports who leave are outnumbered by new contributors joining.
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After 4 years i am quitting Istock too. Constantly declining sales, insulting 15% and 0.00003$ sells. I should have quit much earlier.
How many files you had in your istock portfolio ?
And yes, 0.008$ are juste ridiculous sale. For the first time in 14 years, I wasn't able to meet the 100$ payment. So declining ... ! And SS and Adobe are rising for me. They got live stat, good contributor portal, good sales ... I'm glad I have quit istock now and I should have quit before ! ! ! Like 5 years ago.
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After 4 years i am quitting Istock too. Constantly declining sales, insulting 15% and 0.00003$ sells. I should have quit much earlier.
How many files you had in your istock portfolio ?
And yes, 0.008$ are juste ridiculous sale. For the first time in 14 years, I wasn't able to meet the 100$ payment. So declining ... ! And SS and Adobe are rising for me. They got live stat, good contributor portal, good sales ... I'm glad I have quit istock now and I should have quit before ! ! ! Like 5 years ago.
I have 4026 files on Istock and this is the first time since i am contributor that a dont meet the minimun for pay out too. Anyway i was going to quit cause each time i saw on of those 0.000...sales I was upset with myself for staying there.
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After 4 years i am quitting Istock too. Constantly declining sales, insulting 15% and 0.00003$ sells. I should have quit much earlier.
The royalty percentage of 15% was there when you joined. They keep it that way because most contributors with large ports won't leave as the income makes it worthwhile to stay, and contributors with small ports who leave are outnumbered by new contributors joining.
Yes, i agree. I did good money the 2-3 first years on istock and it made me stay there. But 0.00003$ sales..come on!
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After 4 years i am quitting Istock too. Constantly declining sales, insulting 15% and 0.00003$ sells. I should have quit much earlier.
The royalty percentage of 15% was there when you joined. They keep it that way because most contributors with large ports won't leave as the income makes it worthwhile to stay, and contributors with small ports who leave are outnumbered by new contributors joining.
Yes, i agree. I did good money the 2-3 first years on istock and it made me stay there. But 0.00003$ sales..come on!
I had 4000+ files, photos and vectors also. This is ridiculous not meet the 100$ minimal payout. I used to have 1000$+ each month few years ago ... ! What a drop since getty is in there and everything has change.
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Stopped uploading there 2 years ago when they started selling my 4K videos shot on Inspire2 or Alexa/Red for $0,40. I still have my old material there, haven't deleted anything and regularly receive $4-10 for 4-10 sold high quality 4K videos. As long as they keep up with that I won't upload anything there.
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I'm pretty sure they'll keep up with that ... ! They did nothing to improve contributor experience since years ... ! It's just gotten worst with the refund and all. This is how they doing business. I'm glad I have quit. But it takes months to have my account totally close and get the money that they owe me. I'll be patient.
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After 4 years i am quitting Istock too. Constantly declining sales, insulting 15% and 0.00003$ sells. I should have quit much earlier.
The royalty percentage of 15% was there when you joined. They keep it that way because most contributors with large ports won't leave as the income makes it worthwhile to stay, and contributors with small ports who leave are outnumbered by new contributors joining.
And I stay because I'm greedy and willing to take the paltry amount made by the leftovers I weakly call "My Portfolio" ;D
I'm always waffling between three paths.
1) Close and forget about them
2) Upload until I have an even 1,000
3) Delete everything except what has had past sales. ;)
#3 means I'll have a fine collection of about 100 photos.
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I just got my discontinuation confirmation from them. Curiously, it is the nicest, most politely worded message I've received from them since... well, just about ever. Now I'm going they seem to appreciate me (yes, I know, it's just a standard reply, but still..)
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Oh bummer, he left.
Red flags because you defend a forum bully and liar when we try to tell the truth to warn others. Why don't you take your own advices and ignore us?
https://www.discomusic.com/57-laurin-rinder (https://www.discomusic.com/57-laurin-rinder)
Let’s see your list of accomplishments. Oh wait, you don’t even use your real name.
Liar!
Somebody woke up grumpy, why are you attacking me?
El Coco, Laurin Rinder, Merria Ross, W. Michael Lewis, in 1973 were hired by the AVI Records label to play on some extended remixes geared for dance-club play. An american answer to the european electronic disco sound of Giorgio Moroder.
What does a hired disco drummer in 1973 have to do with photography. I wrote on what fake truths he puts here on forums.
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I use to get about 400 dollars a month from iStock , now it is around 100 bucks a month. I will stay the course until it is zero. Something is better than nothing. No one else will send me 100 bucks for just sitting in my lazy chair.
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Oh bummer, he left.
Red flags because you defend a forum bully and liar when we try to tell the truth to warn others. Why don't you take your own advices and ignore us?
https://www.discomusic.com/57-laurin-rinder (https://www.discomusic.com/57-laurin-rinder)
Let’s see your list of accomplishments. Oh wait, you don’t even use your real name.
Liar!
Somebody woke up grumpy, why are you attacking me?
El Coco, Laurin Rinder, Merria Ross, W. Michael Lewis, in 1973 were hired by the AVI Records label to play on some extended remixes geared for dance-club play. An american answer to the european electronic disco sound of Giorgio Moroder.
What does a hired disco drummer in 1973 have to do with photography. I wrote on what fake truths he puts here on forums.
Fake for sure, it was 1977.
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I have noticed a few people here just love busting his balls. 🙄
Kinda makes you wonder why after a while, doesn't it?
Lots of big male egos here, that’s why. ;)
Laurin is your mentor which means you are ignorant to follow crap and lies. What if I'm not a male, you are more stupid. You get last word, feel the roar.
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I have noticed a few people here just love busting his balls. 🙄
Kinda makes you wonder why after a while, doesn't it?
Lots of big male egos here, that’s why. ;)
Laurin is your mentor which means you are ignorant to follow crap and lies. What if I'm not a male, you are more stupid. You get last word, feel the roar.
LOL. Sure sounds like a male ego.
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I use to get about 400 dollars a month from iStock , now it is around 100 bucks a month. I will stay the course until it is zero. Something is better than nothing. No one else will send me 100 bucks for just sitting in my lazy chair.
that's how I thought too months ago. But seeing sales rising on other microstock place, beeing paid more, having live stats, not having payment hold for a month, no refund...etc. Istock is the worst place to sell my work even if I have 100$ a month. They made too much %$ for themselves with our work. It 's like selling your 20 000$ car for 5000$ saying it's better than nothing. My work is worth more respect than istock gives. And I'm sure anybody else work too. Every artist work, deserves better than istock. But I understand your point. Only I decided to target above.
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I have also just opened a support ticket to close my account.
I have hesitated to do it for a long time, but all these refunds was the last drop.
I have received payment this month, even though is was less than $100. And it looks like my files are gone from istockphoto. That was a lot faster than I expected :)
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I have also just opened a support ticket to close my account.
I have hesitated to do it for a long time, but all these refunds was the last drop.
I have received payment this month, even though is was less than $100. And it looks like my files are gone from istockphoto. That was a lot faster than I expected :)
Just bear in mind that you will continue to get sales recorded by iStock for probably the next 6 months.
Its what happened when I closed my account in March 2017
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I have also just opened a support ticket to close my account.
I have hesitated to do it for a long time, but all these refunds was the last drop.
I have received payment this month, even though is was less than $100. And it looks like my files are gone from istockphoto. That was a lot faster than I expected :)
Just bear in mind that you will continue to get sales recorded by iStock for probably the next 6 months.
Its what happened when I closed my account in March 2017
OK. I will just have to wait and see if the same happens for me.
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Was their contributor till 2017 then dropped them. Returned in the end of 2018.
Currently i get about 40-50$ a month from almost 10.000 files. Pathetic.
Stopped uploading 4 month ago. Not going to delete just keep my best stuff for SS and Fotolia.
Hope they will collapse in a while. Why?
1. very low royalties
2. atrocious submitting and keywording system
3. too old to change anything
4. they already earned what they want (of course with our help)
Value your work! Don't upload to greedy *insult removed*!
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Was their contributor till 2017 then dropped them. Returned in the end of 2018.
Currently i get about 40-50$ a month from almost 10.000 files.
I'm amazed you can put 10,000 images through their laborious submitting and keywording system in such a short time.
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Was their contributor till 2017 then dropped them. Returned in the end of 2018.
Currently i get about 40-50$ a month from almost 10.000 files.
I'm amazed you can put 10,000 images through their laborious submitting and keywording system in such a short time.
I used automatics and scripts to simplify the work.
But really this stock not deserves to upload to it.
Stay away.
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Hi! New and naive here.
I'm in iStock statistics of newly joined contributors (since beginning of the year). And of fast quit ones too (today). No big deal, I never had too many photos in there to begin with. As the uploading system is a complete nightmare I'm not even sure if my files were uploaded all the way. Kinda yes or maybe?
I take photos of normal everyday stuff but some of my keywords bring only a handful photos even in such a saturated place as Shutterstock where I'm a happy bunny. So if somebody wants them they better go to an agency that pays me my peanuts not just the shells.
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aaaw how cute, rinder fanboys, lol, amazes me how many gullible people still fall for this 100yr old senior photographer making 50k per shoot yet still complaining about stocksites making 25 cents , cant make it up bwhahahaaaaa
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aaaw how cute, rinder fanboys, lol, amazes me how many gullible people still fall for this 100yr old senior photographer making 50k per shoot yet still complaining about stocksites making 25 cents , cant make it up bwhahahaaaaa
Unbelievable you really dig up a 3 month old thread about quitting istock just to throw insults about Larin Rinder?
Just grow up ::)
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Why don't you do mmt for gettyimages :P
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Why don't you do mmt for gettyimages :P
And your previous posts read like a bot.
What are you asking?
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not much digging happened :( just logged in and posted a comment on a thread in my list of threads
but a robot talking about bots is funny :)
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not much digging happened :( just logged in and posted a comment on a thread in my list of threads
but a robot talking about bots is funny :)
I think gettyimmages has higher income
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After several years today i took a look to the sales (never did, my fault) and just see videos for 0.0005, photos for less than that.....
This is completely unaceeptable.... I'm closing my account too...
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I wonder how people is still uploading content to Istock, I didn't continue uploading my images there, because I got $ 0,002 in some sales, worst than Shutterstock.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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Hi - Has anyone quit iStock in the recent times? I understand from this thread (started a year ago) that iStock would pay any remaining earnings in the account even if it is less than 100 USD. Could anyone please confirm? Thanks.
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Hello,
Hi - Has anyone quit iStock in the recent times? I understand from this thread (started a year ago) that iStock would pay any remaining earnings in the account even if it is less than 100 USD. Could anyone please confirm? Thanks.
I quit my IStock/Getty in October 2019 an got my little dollars without any problems (payout was not reached).
They also payed me sales which occured after my account cancellation im may 2020 (without asking them), beause the deletion of all files can take up to 6 months.
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Hello,
Hi - Has anyone quit iStock in the recent times? I understand from this thread (started a year ago) that iStock would pay any remaining earnings in the account even if it is less than 100 USD. Could anyone please confirm? Thanks.
I quit my IStock/Getty in October 2019 an got my little dollars without any problems (payout was not reached).
They also payed me sales which occured after my account cancellation im may 2020 (without asking them), beause the deletion of all files can take up to 6 months.
Such a nice people! I should go exclusive there :D
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Hello,
Hi - Has anyone quit iStock in the recent times? I understand from this thread (started a year ago) that iStock would pay any remaining earnings in the account even if it is less than 100 USD. Could anyone please confirm? Thanks.
I quit my IStock/Getty in October 2019 an got my little dollars without any problems (payout was not reached).
They also payed me sales which occured after my account cancellation im may 2020 (without asking them), beause the deletion of all files can take up to 6 months.
Thank you JustAnImage for the confirmation :)
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I've done it. After 15 years and six months I finally gave them the boot.
I hung in there so long because they were my first agency and taught me a lot, so I didn't like to part from them. Also, I felt that having put the effort into uploading the files, I might as well let them earn as much as possible. However, all the bizarre deals they have that seem to let my files go for fractions of a cent etc etc, and now the backdated refunds, leave me wondering whether I'm not giving away some stuff that people would pay for at other sites. Some of my work is sufficiently different for it not to be easily substituted by somebody else's - not a lot of it, maybe, but some.
With the latest earnings down to less than $30 this month (for about 6,000 files, I made more than $10 in my first month with just a few dozen shots) it's not a major loss. Maybe it will lead to an uptick in sales as Shutterstock to compensate.
For those wondering what happens to the balance of earnings that iStock holds, it seems they will be paid eventually. The form for terminating the agreement states:
I confirm that I want to have any outstanding royalties issued on the time specified by my Agreement (most standard agreements specify any outstanding balance is to be issued within 90 days of your request to close your account)
How did you do it? I want to quit too! I have there about $70.
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I wonder how people is still uploading content to Istock, I didn't continue uploading my images there, because I got $ 0,002 in some sales, worst than Shutterstock.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
I'm still uploading to iStock, although I do have some low selling files I have at leat one $80-$100 dollar sale a month and my RPD is over 2.5 at the moment. My sales have dropped hugely certainly since the peak days of iStock but I make enough per month to make it worthwhile, and some new files sell, in fact my current best seller there is under 6 months old.
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I wonder how people is still uploading content to Istock, I didn't continue uploading my images there, because I got $ 0,002 in some sales, worst than Shutterstock.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
I'm still uploading to iStock, although I do have some low selling files I have at leat one $80-$100 dollar sale a month and my RPD is over 2.5 at the moment. My sales have dropped hugely certainly since the peak days of iStock but I make enough per month to make it worthwhile, and some new files sell, in fact my current best seller there is under 6 months old.
Fine! Nice for you!
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I wonder how people is still uploading content to Istock, I didn't continue uploading my images there, because I got $ 0,002 in some sales, worst than Shutterstock.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
I'm still uploading to iStock, although I do have some low selling files I have at leat one $80-$100 dollar sale a month and my RPD is over 2.5 at the moment. My sales have dropped hugely certainly since the peak days of iStock but I make enough per month to make it worthwhile, and some new files sell, in fact my current best seller there is under 6 months old.
i haven't done any rpd calculation, but i earn about 400/600$ month, it's enough for me ATM
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I wonder how people is still uploading content to Istock, I didn't continue uploading my images there, because I got $ 0,002 in some sales, worst than Shutterstock.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
I'm still uploading to iStock, although I do have some low selling files I have at leat one $80-$100 dollar sale a month and my RPD is over 2.5 at the moment. My sales have dropped hugely certainly since the peak days of iStock but I make enough per month to make it worthwhile, and some new files sell, in fact my current best seller there is under 6 months old.
Fine! Nice for you!
That just sounds sarcastic. All I'm pointing out is that some people see uploading to IS as still worthwhile, and to counter your negative take on the place. I'm not saying it's perfect, far from it, but to see people sneering about it whilst selling themselves at other stock sites, none of which give a fair price, is a bit rich. I'm just pointing out the nature of my experience there, which I thought may be of interest and which doesn't warrant your sneery tone, thank you.
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I wonder how people is still uploading content to Istock, I didn't continue uploading my images there, because I got $ 0,002 in some sales, worst than Shutterstock.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
I'm still uploading to iStock, although I do have some low selling files I have at leat one $80-$100 dollar sale a month and my RPD is over 2.5 at the moment. My sales have dropped hugely certainly since the peak days of iStock but I make enough per month to make it worthwhile, and some new files sell, in fact my current best seller there is under 6 months old.
Fine! Nice for you!
That just sounds sarcastic. All I'm pointing out is that some people see uploading to IS as still worthwhile, and to counter your negative take on the place. I'm not saying it's perfect, far from it, but to see people sneering about it whilst selling themselves at other stock sites, none of which give a fair price, is a bit rich. I'm just pointing out the nature of my experience there, which I thought may be of interest and which doesn't warrant your sneery tone, thank you.
It's not sarcastic. Sorry,My intentions are not offend to you!
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I wonder how people is still uploading content to Istock, I didn't continue uploading my images there, because I got $ 0,002 in some sales, worst than Shutterstock.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
I'm still uploading to iStock, although I do have some low selling files I have at leat one $80-$100 dollar sale a month and my RPD is over 2.5 at the moment. My sales have dropped hugely certainly since the peak days of iStock but I make enough per month to make it worthwhile, and some new files sell, in fact my current best seller there is under 6 months old.
Fine! Nice for you!
That just sounds sarcastic. All I'm pointing out is that some people see uploading to IS as still worthwhile, and to counter your negative take on the place. I'm not saying it's perfect, far from it, but to see people sneering about it whilst selling themselves at other stock sites, none of which give a fair price, is a bit rich. I'm just pointing out the nature of my experience there, which I thought may be of interest and which doesn't warrant your sneery tone, thank you.
It's not sarcastic. Sorry,My intentions are not offend to you!
OK, no offence taken!
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I've done it. After 15 years and six months I finally gave them the boot.
I hung in there so long because they were my first agency and taught me a lot, so I didn't like to part from them. Also, I felt that having put the effort into uploading the files, I might as well let them earn as much as possible. However, all the bizarre deals they have that seem to let my files go for fractions of a cent etc etc, and now the backdated refunds, leave me wondering whether I'm not giving away some stuff that people would pay for at other sites. Some of my work is sufficiently different for it not to be easily substituted by somebody else's - not a lot of it, maybe, but some.
With the latest earnings down to less than $30 this month (for about 6,000 files, I made more than $10 in my first month with just a few dozen shots) it's not a major loss. Maybe it will lead to an uptick in sales as Shutterstock to compensate.
For those wondering what happens to the balance of earnings that iStock holds, it seems they will be paid eventually. The form for terminating the agreement states:
I confirm that I want to have any outstanding royalties issued on the time specified by my Agreement (most standard agreements specify any outstanding balance is to be issued within 90 days of your request to close your account)
How did you do it? I want to quit too! I have there about $70.
alexandersr - Please check page 1 in this thread for « Reply #10 on: September 20, 2019, 07:03 ». It is a reply from BaldricksTrousers, stating what needs to be done.
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Hello,
Hi - Has anyone quit iStock in the recent times? I understand from this thread (started a year ago) that iStock would pay any remaining earnings in the account even if it is less than 100 USD. Could anyone please confirm? Thanks.
I quit my IStock/Getty in October 2019 an got my little dollars without any problems (payout was not reached).
They also payed me sales which occured after my account cancellation im may 2020 (without asking them), beause the deletion of all files can take up to 6 months.
I quit in September 2019, and also still get a little from time to time. And they make payout every month, if there has been any income. The lowest pauout I had was $0.05 :)
In May there was even a $0.18 refund, because a sold file was changed to a cheaper subscription. Luckily for me there was enough from Connect to cover the refund.
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I've done it. After 15 years and six months I finally gave them the boot.
I hung in there so long because they were my first agency and taught me a lot, so I didn't like to part from them. Also, I felt that having put the effort into uploading the files, I might as well let them earn as much as possible. However, all the bizarre deals they have that seem to let my files go for fractions of a cent etc etc, and now the backdated refunds, leave me wondering whether I'm not giving away some stuff that people would pay for at other sites. Some of my work is sufficiently different for it not to be easily substituted by somebody else's - not a lot of it, maybe, but some.
With the latest earnings down to less than $30 this month (for about 6,000 files, I made more than $10 in my first month with just a few dozen shots) it's not a major loss. Maybe it will lead to an uptick in sales as Shutterstock to compensate.
For those wondering what happens to the balance of earnings that iStock holds, it seems they will be paid eventually. The form for terminating the agreement states:
I confirm that I want to have any outstanding royalties issued on the time specified by my Agreement (most standard agreements specify any outstanding balance is to be issued within 90 days of your request to close your account)
How did you do it? I want to quit too! I have there about $70.
alexandersr - Please check page 1 in this thread for « Reply #10 on: September 20, 2019, 07:03 ». It is a reply from BaldricksTrousers, stating what needs to be done.
Thanks!
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Hello,
Hi - Has anyone quit iStock in the recent times? I understand from this thread (started a year ago) that iStock would pay any remaining earnings in the account even if it is less than 100 USD. Could anyone please confirm? Thanks.
I quit my IStock/Getty in October 2019 an got my little dollars without any problems (payout was not reached).
They also payed me sales which occured after my account cancellation im may 2020 (without asking them), beause the deletion of all files can take up to 6 months.
I quit in September 2019, and also still get a little from time to time. And they make payout every month, if there has been any income. The lowest pauout I had was $0.05 :)
In May there was even a $0.18 refund, because a sold file was changed to a cheaper subscription. Luckily for me there was enough from Connect to cover the refund.
Thanks Jens G :)
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Has anyone had any experience of there videos being deleted after they have been reviewed and approved? says asset missing...the most concerning thing is it seems to be the videos that being downloaded or viewed the most...
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Has anyone had any experience of there videos being deleted after they have been reviewed and approved? says asset missing...the most concerning thing is it seems to be the videos that being downloaded or viewed the most...
Don't worry be happy ;-)