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ShadySue

« Reply #450 on: February 11, 2013, 13:40 »
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I haven't been to a full lypse, but that was the agreement for an official minilypse too. Also in the only minilypse I have experience of, we didn't every have access to the signed releases. The organiser sent them all off to HQ to be verified, then we all got electronic copies, at a time when only pen signed paper copies were accepted. So I guess these releases wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else anyway.

It depends whether the lypse was funded or not, even if the funding was extremely token.


ShadySue

« Reply #451 on: February 11, 2013, 13:41 »
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And FWIW, I've just deactivated another 15 20 and will do more later when we get back from Les Mis.
Reason: "iStock idiocy. No faith in management."
« Last Edit: February 11, 2013, 13:47 by ShadySue »

« Reply #452 on: February 11, 2013, 13:44 »
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And FWIW, I've just deactivated another 15 and will do more later when we get back from Les Mis.
Reason: "iStock idiocy. No faith in management."

"I dreamed a dream of times gone by..."

« Reply #453 on: February 11, 2013, 13:44 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 22:44 by tickstock »

« Reply #454 on: February 11, 2013, 13:49 »
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I only attended the HQ lypse in Calgary in 2009. I seem to remember that even for mini-lypses they said in the forums that when iStock kicked in some cash for the event, they wanted the images, even from indies, to be sold only on iStock.

In my case it was in the agreement I signed "You agree that you will make all images or video recorded by you during the Event available for license exclusively from istockphoto.com whether or not you are currently or later become a non-exclusive contributor."

Is that the contributor agreement you are talking about or a separate agreement you have signed at the Lypse?

It was a document titled "iStockalypse Attendee Registration" that was specifically for the 'lypse

« Reply #455 on: February 11, 2013, 13:51 »
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And FWIW, I've just deactivated another 15 20 and will do more later when we get back from Les Mis.
Reason: "iStock idiocy. No faith in management."

Went to see that last week.
I couldn't help but be reminded of all that's happening around here.
I can't write anything that doesn't sound melodramatic, but you'll understand what I mean, I'm sure.

« Reply #456 on: February 11, 2013, 13:53 »
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I haven't been to a full lypse, but that was the agreement for an official minilypse too. Also in the only minilypse I have experience of, we didn't every have access to the signed releases. The organiser sent them all off to HQ to be verified, then we all got electronic copies, at a time when only pen signed paper copies were accepted. So I guess these releases wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else anyway.

It depends whether the lypse was funded or not, even if the funding was extremely token.

Right, we don't hold physical releases but we do have the digital copies and I am pretty sure these would hold up in court should a model sue us for whatever reason.

I can't find anything in the release that says that the content must be sold on stock only. In the contrary it says in the definitions part "ASSIGNS means a person or any company to whom Photographer/Filmmaker has assigned or licensed rights under  this release as well as the licensees of any such person or company."

Regarding the iStockalypse Attendee Registration: Does anyone have a copy? I seem to remember I have signed something about my participation on my own risk blablabla but I cannot remember a document forbidding to sell the content somewhere else.

« Reply #457 on: February 11, 2013, 13:54 »
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This is them the Minilypse Sticky

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Here are the Golden Rules of a Minilypse:

1) Any images created during the event must be distributed exclusively by iStockphoto.
2) The Host/ Organizer is in constant contact with HQ
3) Have fun


http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=339193&page=1

ShadySue

« Reply #458 on: February 11, 2013, 13:56 »
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And FWIW, I've just deactivated another 15 20 and will do more later when we get back from Les Mis.
Reason: "iStock idiocy. No faith in management."

Went to see that last week.
I couldn't help but be reminded of all that's happening around here.
I can't write anything that doesn't sound melodramatic, but you'll understand what I mean, I'm sure.

I saw it a couple of weeks ago, but have managed to persuade my husband that he'll enjoy it. I also was reminded during the film of all Getty's cr*p.

« Reply #459 on: February 11, 2013, 13:59 »
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This is them the Minilypse Sticky

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Here are the Golden Rules of a Minilypse:

1) Any images created during the event must be distributed exclusively by iStockphoto.
2) The Host/ Organizer is in constant contact with HQ
3) Have fun


http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=339193&page=1


Thanks. So it's in a sticky.

But what can they do when someone is leaving iStock for good? The only risk I can see is that another agency might not accept the release.

« Reply #460 on: February 11, 2013, 14:00 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 22:44 by tickstock »

« Reply #461 on: February 11, 2013, 14:02 »
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I haven't been to a full lypse, but that was the agreement for an official minilypse too. Also in the only minilypse I have experience of, we didn't every have access to the signed releases. The organiser sent them all off to HQ to be verified, then we all got electronic copies, at a time when only pen signed paper copies were accepted. So I guess these releases wouldn't be acceptable anywhere else anyway.

It depends whether the lypse was funded or not, even if the funding was extremely token.

Right, we don't hold physical releases but we do have the digital copies and I am pretty sure these would hold up in court should a model sue us for whatever reason.

I can't find anything in the release that says that the content must be sold on stock only. In the contrary it says in the definitions part "ASSIGNS means a person or any company to whom Photographer/Filmmaker has assigned or licensed rights under  this release as well as the licensees of any such person or company."

Regarding the iStockalypse Attendee Registration: Does anyone have a copy? I seem to remember I have signed something about my participation on my own risk blablabla but I cannot remember a document forbidding to sell the content somewhere else.
The electronic release I have just has the organizer's signature not mine, mine would be on the attached lypse roster as stated on the model release.

Correct. The photographers name is nowhere to be found but it is clear that there is a photographer and that it is you and that you have been given a release. You have been given that release. Not iStockphoto.

« Reply #462 on: February 11, 2013, 14:06 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 22:44 by tickstock »

« Reply #463 on: February 11, 2013, 14:08 »
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...Regarding the iStockalypse Attendee Registration: Does anyone have a copy? I seem to remember I have signed something about my participation on my own risk blablabla but I cannot remember a document forbidding to sell the content somewhere else.

I have a copy of the one for the August 2009 iStockalypse in Calgary. The registration was separate from the liability waiver (if you kill yourself it's not our fault) and also from the MR I signed as an attendee - I was an extra in some other people's shots

« Reply #464 on: February 11, 2013, 16:07 »
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...Regarding the iStockalypse Attendee Registration: Does anyone have a copy? I seem to remember I have signed something about my participation on my own risk blablabla but I cannot remember a document forbidding to sell the content somewhere else.

I have a copy of the one for the August 2009 iStockalypse in Calgary. The registration was separate from the liability waiver (if you kill yourself it's not our fault) and also from the MR I signed as an attendee - I was an extra in some other people's shots

Great. Would you mind quoting the text? I assume they all have the same wording.

« Reply #465 on: February 11, 2013, 17:11 »
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Brian Powell asked me to add his 315 to the tally - I have also deleted 260 today.

« Reply #466 on: February 11, 2013, 17:14 »
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...Regarding the iStockalypse Attendee Registration: Does anyone have a copy? I seem to remember I have signed something about my participation on my own risk blablabla but I cannot remember a document forbidding to sell the content somewhere else.

I have a copy of the one for the August 2009 iStockalypse in Calgary. The registration was separate from the liability waiver (if you kill yourself it's not our fault) and also from the MR I signed as an attendee - I was an extra in some other people's shots

Great. Would you mind quoting the text? I assume they all have the same wording.

I did several posts back - the paragraph about where the content can go.

« Reply #467 on: February 11, 2013, 17:28 »
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Right, we don't hold physical releases but we do have the digital copies and I am pretty sure these would hold up in court should a model sue us for whatever reason.

Do you? Because I don't. At lypses, the models usually only sign one global release. That gets approved by iStock HQ and then will be distributed to the photographers.

So I don't hold any releases with my name on it. I won't be able to upload them anywhere else.

« Reply #468 on: February 11, 2013, 17:33 »
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Wow, thank you so much, anonymous donor.  I never win anything... this prize will at least give me a little something back as I continue to use my own time deactivating more photos.

How about this?  I'd like to pay half of it ($50) forward.  I can't hog all of it to myself.  Let's say 2nd place get's $30, and 3rd place gets $20. 

Tyler - please go ahead and randomly generate some numbers from the tally thread, and post the results here.  Let's make a few more hard working microstockers have a slightly better day as well.


sure..
I've drawn 2 more numbers from mr. wolfram and MichaelJphoto and MicrostockExp get the $30 / $20 split

« Reply #469 on: February 11, 2013, 18:11 »
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Alright :) Congratulations guys!

Thanks again to Mr. Wolfram - we very much appreciate your kind gesture. Also thank you Tyler for helping out with this, much appreciated as well. 

« Reply #470 on: February 11, 2013, 18:13 »
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Alright :) Congratulations guys!

Thanks again to Mr. Wolfram - we very much appreciate your kind gesture. Also thank you Tyler for helping out with this, much appreciated as well. 


Mr. Wolfram  (http://www.wolframalpha.com/) just gave me the random numbers.. it was someone else who is giving the funds :)

ShadySue

« Reply #471 on: February 11, 2013, 19:02 »
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Another 20 deactivated while (back home and) listening to Red and Black. Very inspirational.

Mars

« Reply #472 on: February 11, 2013, 20:27 »
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« Last Edit: February 15, 2013, 17:40 by Mars »

ShadySue

« Reply #473 on: February 11, 2013, 20:30 »
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@Mars, that's another 36 i.e.76 total for today.
Can't think who would even see if I posted something on Fb or Twitter. No-one ever has before, except for the pervs who haunt Twitter.
You'd presumably have to have friends or followers or fans or whatever to make a scrap of difference.

« Last Edit: February 11, 2013, 20:33 by ShadySue »

Mars

« Reply #474 on: February 11, 2013, 20:44 »
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« Last Edit: February 15, 2013, 17:41 by Mars »


 

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