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lisafx

« Reply #75 on: January 14, 2013, 13:27 »
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They don't care either way. Don't think about them, think about yourself. Don't do it for them. We are not an important part of their vision.

While I agree we should do it for ourselves, I have to disagree that we, or at least our content, are not an important part of their vision.  Without our images, they have nothing to sell, bargain with, or give away.  It is time to remind them.


« Reply #76 on: January 14, 2013, 13:36 »
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That's 104 gone, including all model released pics and others we wanted to protect from being given away.

« Reply #77 on: January 14, 2013, 13:42 »
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HEY, maybe there is good news.
The files I deactivated sell better than usual at other places today.

I know, I know, one day is not significant.

lisafx

« Reply #78 on: January 14, 2013, 13:51 »
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HEY, maybe there is good news.
The files I deactivated sell better than usual at other places today.

I know, I know, one day is not significant.

Hey, I'll take any bit of good news at this point :)

Add my six pending files to the deactivated tally. 

That brings us to 601 currently deactivated, including Travelling-Light's post above. 

If you delete, please total the tally.  I think this tally is way under the actual number. :)


lisafx

« Reply #80 on: January 14, 2013, 13:59 »
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I removed most of my files after the RC system was introduced. I've got 64 images left and I'll be removing 63 of them ASAP. I don't really want to wait until 2nd Feb - three weeks is a long time, maybe enough time for them to hurriedly extend their scheme?

Total climbs to 664 then :)

« Reply #81 on: January 14, 2013, 14:00 »
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Please correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't this type of protest only have the strongest impact if tens of thousands of images were deactivated with the majority being high sellers? It's only when istock actually starts to lose money and unfortunately yourselves (hopefully only briefly) is when they will take any notice.

I think it's great that many contributors are collectively taking concerted action but i fear it will be too weak. Nowadays istock with getty in the background appear to be more daring in what they think they can get away with, therefore a strong response is the only thing that will work.

lisafx

« Reply #82 on: January 14, 2013, 14:03 »
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Please correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't this type of protest only have the strongest impact if tens of thousands of images were deactivated with the majority being high sellers? It's only when istock actually starts to lose money and unfortunately yourselves (hopefully only briefly) is when they will take any notice.

I think it's great that many contributors are collectively taking concerted action but i fear it will be too weak. Nowadays istock with getty in the background appear to be more daring in what they think they can get away with, therefore a strong response is the only thing that will work.

You're not wrong.  However you may have missed the message that D-Day or Deactivation day will be Feb 2.  Lots of folks holding their fire until then. 

« Reply #83 on: January 14, 2013, 14:20 »
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I still think having a day where we all start deleting together would send a strong message. 

Do you honestly believe that? I doubt it very much. I think personally the only person you will harm will be yourself, by dropping your income. If you're really p*** off, why not leave completely, surely that would be more positive. They must get thousands of uploads a day, many many thousands, a couple of thousand being deactivated, what will that do? I don't want to sound negative, but this is doomed to failure.

Im afraid I think youre right. I doubt it will even make a dent. Good effort though. Further more they might be playing Getty right into the lap. This might be exactly what they have been waiting for. Remember IS have always been a thorn in the side of Getty and here comes an aid to their non existence.

« Reply #84 on: January 14, 2013, 14:37 »
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I don't want to sound negative, but this is doomed to failure.

Try to see a larger picture.  This issue is much bigger than IS.  It involves Google, and potentially every other player in the image market.   We probably can't inflict serious damage on IS, or cause their current management to change direction, but our actions will surely influence any other agencies who'd been considering such deals, and they might decide not to pursue them.  And eventutally IS may very well go away, completely,  for other reasons.

« Reply #85 on: January 14, 2013, 14:37 »
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Add 16 to my tally, for a total of 400 deactivated.  I'll leave the remaining 20 up there til the 2nd of Feb.

« Reply #86 on: January 14, 2013, 15:36 »
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I don't want to sound negative, but this is doomed to failure.

Try to see a larger picture.  This issue is much bigger than IS.  It involves Google, and potentially every other player in the image market.   We probably can't inflict serious damage on IS, or cause their current management to change direction, but our actions will surely influence any other agencies who'd been considering such deals, and they might decide not to pursue them.  And eventutally IS may very well go away, completely,  for other reasons.

I think the notion of this effort being doomed to failure rather depends upon how you define success :)

If you define success as having Getty stay "I'm so sorry. What a terrible and disrespectful idea it was to sell off such massive rights for so little money. We'll tell Google it was all a mistake and the deal's off right away.", then you're probably right.

However, at a minimum I can keep my images out of Getty's hands - at least until they buy all the agencies out there. I stand a non-zero chance of getting something better than that. Lying down and playing dead just because Getty is a big ugly bully isn't an appealing option.

« Reply #87 on: January 14, 2013, 15:49 »
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200 gone, 283 to do.  I'm waiting for a payout before I delete the best sellers.  Be dammed if I let them keep my money!

gillian vann

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« Reply #88 on: January 14, 2013, 18:14 »
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we should really leave our worst files up, so buyers just see B-grade content.

I'm not really keen on trying to take down iStock, but I think our hands are tied? putting that many high quality images out there for free, training ppl to expect free images, is going to hurt us all.

I only have a small port so I'm just a little tin boat floating along with the big ships, but I'm in.

« Reply #89 on: January 14, 2013, 19:53 »
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I've deactivated all my model released photos from istock when the Google deal first came to light. This was before the D day deactivation was discussed - but I think I'm nervous enough about my model released images (as all but a few are of kids) that they would be coming down right now anyway whatever happens. That's  I think about 60 images including one which was just about to go blue flames and a couple of other decent if not spectacular sellers for a hobbyist.

lisafx

« Reply #90 on: January 14, 2013, 20:02 »
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So if I counted right the total stands at 940

If anyone adds a post with deactivations already done, could you add them to the total and post that?  Makes it easier to keep up :)

« Reply #91 on: January 14, 2013, 21:06 »
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152 files deactivated.

Total stands at 1092.

« Reply #92 on: January 14, 2013, 21:21 »
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For me the reason is simple: there might be more scams already in the pipeline.
Feb 2nd gives them too much time. They should have reacted on Friday. Well, they reacted, but that was the wrong kind of reaction.

That concerns me too.  Istock may see this Feb. 2nd date and push those other deals through to beat that date.  As of now, I'm still going to wait, but doing so very anxiously.

« Reply #93 on: January 14, 2013, 22:12 »
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I pulled another 10 or so early.

Total stands at 1102

« Reply #94 on: January 15, 2013, 01:13 »
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My three pictures with my daughter in have been deactivated.
1105

Reef

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« Reply #95 on: January 15, 2013, 01:28 »
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I've always been sensitive about using my children - I have deactivated the only 2 shots I had of them in IS

Total 1107

« Reply #96 on: January 15, 2013, 03:10 »
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I hope this will make an impact, that the word will spread in the community and to various news channel etc.

But it's not the sole reason I'm pulling my portfolio on February 2. I'm doing this primarily for myself - as an investment in time and happiness. I'll never have to worry about iStock again, I won't spend anymore time reading threads of hundreds of pages about how Getty/IS managed to screw us once again. I won't be furious when they bring us more "exciting news" in the future.

That's how I see it and I think the fuel that powers Deactivation Day should be regaining freedom and getting new opportunities focusing on other more positive ways of selling stock content, rather than the impact itself.

« Reply #97 on: January 15, 2013, 04:24 »
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I hope this will make an impact, that the word will spread in the community and to various news channel etc.

I'm afraid you overestimate the effect biased by a forum of a small percentage of contributors. For the fun of it, I am keeping track and the iStock overall library has grown by 10,000 files since Saturday - that's maybe 5,000 less than usual. I'm looking forward to see if Feb 2 will have an impact on those numbers but so far... well, not really.

« Reply #98 on: January 15, 2013, 04:42 »
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Did you read my entire post (particularly the section that starts with "but...")? That was exactly my point. I'm not doing this for the sake of making an impact, but should the word happen to spread in the design community, I certainly wouldn't mind either - that would be an added bonus. That's why I plan on doing it on February 2 rather than right away, because nevertheless chances of that to happen are probably marginally higher than if I go ahead and deactivate my measly 82 files today. Maybe it will inspire others to take a stand as well. Trying to be a little strategic about the gift that I'm giving myself.

In fact this would be my advise to everyone participating in D-Day: Don't expect iStock to fall on their knees, do this for yourself. You deserve to be freed from the Getty corporation and focus your thoughts on positive stuff - the future is bright..
« Last Edit: January 15, 2013, 04:44 by ThomasAmby »

« Reply #99 on: January 15, 2013, 05:10 »
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I have deactivated 2. Total 1109


 

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