Author Topic: income % from Partner Program (Read 5320 times)

luissantos84 · « **on:** November 17, 2012, 11:04 »

sorry for the redundancy

37%

somethingpretentious · « **Reply #1 on:** November 17, 2012, 11:27 »

independents and exclusives should be separated

luissantos84 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 17, 2012, 11:31 »

needless to say please vote again

steheap · « **Reply #3 on:** November 17, 2012, 11:56 »

I'm assuming that this is PP income divided by total income from iStock. Mine is a much lower 21% when measured over the past 4 months.

Steve

luissantos84 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 17, 2012, 12:08 »

Quote from: steheap on November 17, 2012, 11:56

I'm assuming that this is PP income divided by total income from iStock. Mine is a much lower 21% when measured over the past 4 months.

Steve

37% is looking at my total income (since day 1), last 4 months 36.25%

steheap · « **Reply #5 on:** November 17, 2012, 12:12 »

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37% is looking at my total income (since day 1), last 4 months 36.25%

Interesting - wonder why we have such different results. Is it that you get more PPs or I get better results from the main collection? Who knows!!

Steve

luissantos84 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 17, 2012, 12:13 »

Quote from: steheap on November 17, 2012, 12:12

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37% is looking at my total income (since day 1), last 4 months 36.25%

Interesting - wonder why we have such different results. Is it that you get more PPs or I get better results from the main collection? Who knows!!

Steve

totally, I believe so, my PP runs from 45$ to 70$

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #7 on:** November 17, 2012, 12:15 »

So to be clear: you want to look at PP income as a percentage of total October income from iStock and PP combined?

For exclusives, they receive money (potentially) from Getty (Vetta/Agency/E+ files transferred over, plus some submit directly to Getty) as well as IS.com and PP. What should their total be?

Last, what are you trying to understand? My PP income has been rising each month, but at the moment it isn't really much of an indicator as the number of files in the PP has also been rising (and they still don't have my complete IS portfolio over on the PP sites). Retail stores compare "same store sales" when they're trying to decide if business is looking up or not. If you include new stores too you can fool yourself into thinking things are growing when they're really not except by expansion. Then the whole lot collapses like a soufflé.

I think it'd be more interesting to see IS.com growth/decline mapped against PP growth/decline for independents. Exclusives are much more complicated, especially because they have a choice about what, if anything, goes to the PP. Getting a percentage of income from an exclusive who only has 10% of their old files in the PP doesn't really mean anything.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 17, 2012, 12:22 »

Quote from: jsnover on November 17, 2012, 12:15

So to be clear: you want to look at PP income as a percentage of total October income from iStock and PP combined?

can be the average for the last 6 months

Quote from: jsnover on November 17, 2012, 12:15

For exclusives, they receive money (potentially) from Getty (Vetta/Agency/E+ files transferred over, plus some submit directly to Getty) as well as IS.com and PP. What should their total be?

they can look into the previous 6 months excluding October

Quote from: jsnover on November 17, 2012, 12:15

Last, what are you trying to understand? My PP income has been rising each month, but at the moment it isn't really much of an indicator as the number of files in the PP has also been rising (and they still don't have my complete IS portfolio over on the PP sites). Retail stores compare "same store sales" when they're trying to decide if business is looking up or not. If you include new stores too you can fool yourself into thinking things are growing when they're really not except by expansion. Then the whole lot collapses like a soufflé.

soufflé is nice but my point here is to understand how sales are being spread, if thinkstock/photos.com are really out there like reaching SS or just a small outlet

Quote from: jsnover on November 17, 2012, 12:15

I think it'd be more interesting to see IS.com growth/decline mapped against PP growth/decline for independents. Exclusives are much more complicated, especially because they have a choice about what, if anything, goes to the PP. Getting a percentage of income from an exclusive who only has 10% of their old files in the PP doesn't really mean anything.

I had that in mind too but decide to open a slot for exclusives after somethingpretentious request, maybe I can add a "I am not in the PP"

Poncke · « **Reply #9 on:** November 17, 2012, 13:00 »

If you post a poll with a question open for interpretation, everybody interprets the question differently so you get different answers and a skewed poll result.

Better is to start a poll with a clear question, or post the question and then explain exactly what you want answered in your guiding comment.

My 2c

luissantos84 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 17, 2012, 13:09 »

Quote from: Poncke on November 17, 2012, 13:00

If you post a poll with a question open for interpretation, everybody interprets the question differently so you get different answers and a skewed poll result.

Better is to start a poll with a clear question, or post the question and then explain exactly what you want answered in your guiding comment.

My 2c

sorry but there ins't a perfect poll or other thing, like I have said the last 6 months average is fine

Poncke · « **Reply #11 on:** November 17, 2012, 13:40 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 17, 2012, 13:09

Quote from: Poncke on November 17, 2012, 13:00
If you post a poll with a question open for interpretation, everybody interprets the question differently so you get different answers and a skewed poll result.

Better is to start a poll with a clear question, or post the question and then explain exactly what you want answered in your guiding comment.

My 2c

sorry but there ins't a perfect poll or other thing, like I have said the last 6 months average is fine

Yes there is. You mentioned the 6 months in the 8th post or so and loads of votes had been cast already. If its all clear in the first post, then you get better results. And I assume you want to get a clear image, not a skewed one.

microstockphoto.co.uk · « **Reply #12 on:** November 17, 2012, 15:00 »

37% six months average (with very little variance each month)

fotografer · « **Reply #13 on:** November 17, 2012, 17:16 »

Quote from: microstockphoto.co.uk on November 17, 2012, 15:00

37% six months average (with very little variance each month)

That is just about the same as me. Not much variance and about 37%

lisafx · « **Reply #14 on:** November 17, 2012, 17:55 »

Quote from: fotografer on November 17, 2012, 17:16

Quote from: microstockphoto.co.uk on November 17, 2012, 15:00
37% six months average (with very little variance each month)
That is just about the same as me. Not much variance and about 37%

This describes me too.

aeonf · « **Reply #15 on:** November 17, 2012, 18:08 »

4% but only 1/5 of my port is on the PP.

hiddenstock · « **Reply #16 on:** November 17, 2012, 18:12 »

So if you are exclusive the partner program is crap. What a suprise.

ClaridgeJ · « **Reply #17 on:** November 18, 2012, 02:37 »

Well Im surprised actually because I was dead against it from the start but as indies with big ports we had no option. For me the PP has worked out really well and not just subs but some good sales as well.

aeonf · « **Reply #18 on:** November 18, 2012, 06:13 »

Quote from: hiddenstock on November 17, 2012, 18:12

So if you are exclusive the partner program is crap. What a suprise.

I'm not sure. We have about 1K photos on the PP half of which are utter crap images from our early days, I am sure once most of our port will move there the PP will bring much higher $$$.
Total photos that need to be transferred to the PP is over 2,100 images...

Noedelhap · « **Reply #19 on:** November 18, 2012, 10:14 »

34% average over the last 6 months, non-exclusive.

Lowest percentage was 22% (October), highest percentage 50% (August).

luissantos84 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 18, 2012, 10:59 »

on a side note I haven´t uploaded to iStock for over 8 months, still 70 files not in the PP

nullplus · « **Reply #21 on:** November 18, 2012, 16:11 »

gostwyck · « **Reply #22 on:** November 19, 2012, 07:38 »

It's been a constantly moving number for me as more of my port has been transferred over, increasing PP sales, whilst IS income slowly falls. I've therefore used last month's 44% for the poll. The PP is pretty much equal to DT for me nowadays.

fotografer · « **Reply #23 on:** November 19, 2012, 11:03 »

Quote from: gostwyck on November 19, 2012, 07:38

It's been a constantly moving number for me as more of my port has been transferred over, increasing PP sales, whilst IS income slowly falls. I've therefore used last month's 44% for the poll. The PP is pretty much equal to DT for me nowadays.

The pp only gives me about a 1/6 or 1/7 of my DT earnings. It's more on par with places like BS, Deposit, Canstock or 123rf.

RacePhoto · « **Reply #24 on:** November 22, 2012, 01:47 »

Quote from: hiddenstock on November 17, 2012, 18:12

So if you are exclusive the partner program is crap. What a suprise.

Actually for an Indy the same is true.

Not a big surprise but I agree.

(unless you are someone named Sybil who has four or more accounts here... and an oppositional disorder to boot)

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Author Topic: income % from Partner Program (Read 5320 times)

luissantos84

somethingpretentious

luissantos84

steheap

luissantos84

steheap

luissantos84

Jo Ann Snover

luissantos84

Poncke

luissantos84

Poncke

microstockphoto.co.uk

fotografer

lisafx

aeonf

hiddenstock

ClaridgeJ

aeonf

Noedelhap

luissantos84

nullplus

gostwyck

fotografer

RacePhoto

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