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lisafx

« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2012, 12:46 »
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Thank god I'm not a Facebook or Instagram user.  8)

Amen to that!  Same here. 


« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2012, 12:47 »
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There's a bit more background information on Instagram's "need to monetise" in this report from the Beeb;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20767537

« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2012, 12:59 »
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There's a bit more background information on Instagram's "need to monetise" in this report from the Beeb;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20767537


I agree with this comment on that article by John McCormick

"One thing the complacent overlook. This is what the top of the slippery slope looks like. You'll find after one or two more shake-ups like this that THEY own YOUR photo, because you uploaded it onto THEIR server. As inevitable as gravity. Get out while you can."

Even if they do a u-turn - that's it for me.

RacePhoto

« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2012, 13:06 »
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1) Download all your images:  http://help.instagram.com/customer/portal/articles/95777-export-your-photos-to-your-computer

2) Delete Account:  http://help.instagram.com/customer/portal/articles/95760

3) Smile  "We cannot reactivate accounts. Additionally, you will not be able to sign up with the same username again."

I bet Instagram has been having their busiest day ever. Too bad it will be for all the wrong reasons.


ruxpriencdiam

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« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2012, 13:46 »
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And since SS has a Facebook page and displays our images at a large size they are now giving away our images for free to be sold elsewhere and they and we make no any money off of it!

I wonder how this is going to fly?

 

Poncke

« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2012, 17:52 »
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They are already saying they didnt mean it like that

http://blog.instagram.com/post/38252135408/thank-you-and-were-listening

« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2012, 18:24 »
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This is going to be the story of FB from now on - one obnoxious 'terms and conditions' attack after another.  And your news feed will be polluted with ads.  They have one goal - "monetize" - and one way to reach it - sell their users' privacy and content.

Some changes will cause a big negative reaction, and they'll back off. For a while.  And then try something else.  They'll try to just wear us down.

Imagine the telephone was new technology today.  The phone company starts as a free service - everyone gets a phone and starts talking.  In a couple of years they have millions of users, and it's indispensable.  Then they dust off that old "T &C" we all agreed to, and announce they have the right to record our conversations and sell them to advertisers.  And our calls are interrupted with ads.   But we have no place to go because we all have to be on the same phone network....

« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 18:55 by stockastic »

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2012, 18:39 »
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I always wondered what the benefit to the founders was in FB and instagram being free.
Clearly they had to hook loads of suckers users in, then monetise.
I tend to be very, very suspicious of anything that's 'free', especially online.

« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2012, 19:03 »
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I always wondered what the benefit to the founders was in FB and instagram being free.
Clearly they had to hook loads of suckers users in, then monetise.
I tend to be very, very suspicious of anything that's 'free', especially online.

You know what they say about the internet ... if the service is 'free' then you are the product.

grafix04

« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2012, 21:10 »
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Instagram has responded.  It's all good now, no one is selling our photos.

http://blog.instagram.com/post/38252135408/thank-you-and-were-listening

« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2012, 21:12 »
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« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 21:16 by ann »

« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2012, 21:23 »
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Instagram has responded.  It's all good now, no one is selling our photos.

http://blog.instagram.com/post/38252135408/thank-you-and-were-listening


What a vomit-inducing, cuddly "we're all friends together" statement. *hugs*

The actual translation is "We got found out and now we're trying to limit the damage"
« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 21:27 by gostwyck »

grafix04

« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2012, 21:41 »
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Instagram has responded.  It's all good now, no one is selling our photos.

http://blog.instagram.com/post/38252135408/thank-you-and-were-listening


What a vomit-inducing, cuddly "we're all friends together" statement. *hugs*

The actual translation is "We got found out and now we're trying to limit the damage"


 ;D  Spot on!

« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2012, 21:47 »
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Next up: auto-playing video ads, right in your news feed.

http://news.yahoo.com/horrible-autoplay-video-ads-coming-facebook-190959998.html

If I had the guts, I'd short this stock.   None of these crazy ad schemes will deliver anything like the revenue being projected and resistance of the user base will greatly exceed expections.   Just my typically uninformed opinions...
« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 21:55 by stockastic »

« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2012, 23:52 »
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There's a bit more background information on Instagram's "need to monetise" in this report from the Beeb;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20767537

"The fact is that Facebook has critical mass, and is quite confident that such moves may cause uproar, but not a flight of business."

ThIS sounds familiar.

KB

« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2012, 23:56 »
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Do Getty and FB / Instagram share a common management team?  ::)

« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2012, 00:02 »
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AOL once thought they had "critical mass" too.  The world eventually routed around them.    Like Jeff Goldblum's character said in Jurassic Park: "Life finds a way".

Microstock is an early application of crowdsourcing.  Crowds eventually move on. 
« Last Edit: December 19, 2012, 00:04 by stockastic »

« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2012, 00:06 »
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I also have shunned facebook, instagram and others.  This reinforces my decision. 

« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2012, 03:15 »
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ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2012, 03:35 »
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Instagram has responded.  It's all good now, no one is selling our photos.

http://blog.instagram.com/post/38252135408/thank-you-and-were-listening

'til next time.

What a vomit-inducing, cuddly "we're all friends together" statement. *hugs*

The actual translation is "We got found out and now we're trying to limit the damage"

« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2012, 04:20 »
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I wonder if Facebook had any idea what to do with instagram when they bought it. It seems to me that they splashed one billion dollars just to show the world that they can buy anything on this planet if they want.  And now when they found out that fb ads on mobile phones do not work that well as they expected etc., they're trying to find any way how to monetize Instagram. Maybe they should sell some extra filters for a few dollars instead...

Anyhow, I downloaded Add Watermark app to smartphone and won't upload any photo to FB without it. Just to be sure.

RacePhoto

« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2012, 09:57 »
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Here's some more information on the topic:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/18/instagram-ads_n_2325477.html


Oh darn you mean we burned Instagram and drowned FB (deleted your accounts forever,,,) and they weren't really witches!

I'm still not a fanboy of either, but happy that people got past the mob mentality in under one day.

(& carry a towel)


« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2012, 10:13 »
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I'm still not a fanboy of either, but happy that people got past the mob mentality in under one day.

I look at it as that "mob" got needed results, in the "clarification" and removal of some of the terms.  Better to take care of things before they happen.  And "the people" aren't really out anything for deleting their account.  In this case, the business learned that they don't hold a monopoly.

I can never understand why they don't run things like that past someone with common sense before putting them out there.

« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2012, 11:47 »
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Facebook waited too long to 'monetize'.  Their user base now has a growing awareness of privacy issues and an increasing resentment of in-your-face ads, junk mail and robo-calls.  We now see FB as something like a public utility which should do what we need it to do, and be subject to government regulation. 

FB will be facing increasing resistance to every new terms-and-conditions attack they cook up, and heavy use of apps and plug-ins to block inline FB ads. 

We need to be thinking about what comes after FB. 

« Last Edit: December 19, 2012, 12:58 by stockastic »

aspp

« Reply #49 on: December 19, 2012, 15:30 »
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Enjoyed Joe's post on the IS forum which got deleted :)

If that place was a foreign govt they would call it anti democratic and call for regime change.


 

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