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Agency Based Discussion => iStockPhoto.com => Topic started by: FD on April 29, 2010, 18:19

Title: Irrelevant keyword rejects
Post by: FD on April 29, 2010, 18:19
For some reason, it has been taken for granted here that "not fully relevant" keywords on the images of non-exclusives are not removed by the IS reviewers, and that irrelevant keywords are just another reason for rejects, even if the image itself is OK.
Others, and myself, have already said that when resubmitting an image that was rejected for keywords with the offending ones left out, it mostly gets rejected again for another reason.

I just had an image accepted with 4 "not fully relevant" keywords. Surfing to the edit section of that image (to delete those keywords), I noticed that the 4 were all gone. Is this a change of policy towards non-excluives, or merely the confirmation of the fact that IS doesn't reject for keywords (alone)?
Title: Re: Irrelevant keyword rejects
Post by: elvinstar on April 29, 2010, 18:43
It probably just depends upon the reviewer.
Title: Re: Irrelevant keyword rejects
Post by: donding on April 29, 2010, 20:32
It would sure make things easier if they just removed the keywords. I've had a couple like that where they just removed the keywords and I've had them rejected for keywords. It probably depends on the reviewer.
Title: Re: Irrelevant keyword rejects
Post by: ShadySue on April 30, 2010, 02:03
For exclusives, the irrelevant keywords are removed upon inspection.
For non-exclusives, there is supposed to be a rejection for poor keywords. If there's nothing else wrong with the image, it can be resubmitted. There have been reported cases where a kind inspector has removed the poor keywords and accepted the file.
If you had ever tried to demonstrate iStock to a potential buyer, and the search results were so bad (because of poor keywording) that not only did he burst out laughing, but also called his colleagues over for a laugh, you'd think bad keywording was a serious issue too.
Even now, I see badly keyworded files being accepted day and daily.  :'(  My wiki finger is worn to the bone, and that's only within a very narrow field of interest.
Title: Re: Irrelevant keyword rejects
Post by: NitorPhoto on April 30, 2010, 03:00
I have a very positive experience with IS. Even if I am not exclusive and even if they would have the right to reject the image for inappropriate keywords they don't. In over 95% of the cases they just remove the keywords and let the image through. Maybe they take into account your badge level? Not like on DT where I got a full batch rejected just because I used keywords like 'stockphoto' - that was the last time I uploaded there anything.

I don't know why do you say IS search is bad. If you know the CV they give you far the best accuracy in searches. I am always choosing IS when I am looking for an image.
Title: Re: Irrelevant keyword rejects
Post by: Caz on April 30, 2010, 06:17
If you're non exclusive it depends how many irrelevant keywords you have on a submission. If it's only a few, then the inspector will remove them for you and accept the image (assuming there are no technical issues with the image). The words that were removed are detailed on your acceptance email.

If there are lots of bad keywords then they won't do it for you and will reject your image with a note to advise which keywords you should remove for your re-submission.
Title: Re: Irrelevant keyword rejects
Post by: FD on April 30, 2010, 08:40
There have been reported cases where a kind inspector has removed the poor keywords and accepted the file.
I guess I got a kind inspector then today. I had 5 more images accepted after that with not totally relevant keywords removed. At the one reject, he added a note that I should resize it to get it sharp all over. (it was F16 but the image had 2 focus points about 50cm apart and 1 was borderline sharp).
Title: Re: Irrelevant keyword rejects
Post by: lisafx on May 01, 2010, 10:07
I have had both experiences - image rejected for one or two keywords, and image accepted with keywords removed.

I very much appreciate the inspectors who are nice enough to remove the words and accept the image, but I understand they are not required to do that.