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« on: August 19, 2010, 17:23 »
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I uploaded an image with DeepMeta, and it was rejected due to several keywords. So, I had to resubmit the image using IS website. After upload, I noticed that the image has only 22 keywords, which is about 50% of the original number. So, I had to add more keywords manually.
Didi someone else notice the same thing maybe?


cmcderm1

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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2010, 18:31 »
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No experience with DeepMeta.  But WOW - 22 keywords is alot, and that's HALF???  Yikes.

12-16 is about my range there.

« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2010, 18:48 »
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No experience with DeepMeta.  But WOW - 22 keywords is alot, and that's HALF???  Yikes.

12-16 is about my range there.

I always write 40-50 ::)   Although, for Istock I delete some, because of controlled vocabulary. For example, today I submitted an image of an acrobatic airplane, and I remember that I had to delete the word "acrobatic" because Istock offers only "circus performer" and "gymnastics" as an option.

donding

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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2010, 18:50 »
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I can't ever think of any more than 15 keywords in some cases and those are the ones I think I thought of a lot.

« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2010, 18:54 »
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cmcderm1, I just checked your IS port. As I can see your best selling images all have more than 30 keywords. Did you mean that your newest files have 12-16 keywords, or?

« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2010, 18:56 »
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I can't ever think of any more than 15 keywords in some cases and those are the ones I think I thought of a lot.

I'm using Yuri's keywording tool. Maybe that's why I have so many keywords.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2010, 18:59 by Dreamframer »

« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2010, 19:27 »
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Didi someone else notice the same thing maybe?
Yap, there are mostly less.

donding

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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2010, 19:30 »
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I can't ever think of any more than 15 keywords in some cases and those are the ones I think I thought of a lot.

I'm using Yuri's keywording tool. Maybe that's why I have so many keywords.

I've never tried it....guess I should.

« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2010, 19:48 »
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For IS I usualy use 10-15 keywords

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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2010, 22:30 »
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No experience with DeepMeta.  But WOW - 22 keywords is alot, and that's HALF???  Yikes.

12-16 is about my range there.

I ramdonly checked a handful of your images and they were all in the 30-45 word range.

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2010, 22:31 »
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I uploaded an image with DeepMeta, and it was rejected due to several keywords. So, I had to resubmit the image using IS website. After upload, I noticed that the image has only 22 keywords, which is about 50% of the original number. So, I had to add more keywords manually.
Didi someone else notice the same thing maybe?

I use Deepmeta pretty regularly and have never had this happen.

ShadySue

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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2010, 02:02 »
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I can't ever think of any more than 15 keywords in some cases and those are the ones I think I thought of a lot.

I'm using Yuri's keywording tool. Maybe that's why I have so many keywords.

I've never tried it....guess I should.
No reason why you 'should''; and if you do, be sure to check the results manually and then again carefully if you upload to iStock, because of DA.
Several people have posted in the past in the keyword forum about keyword rejections, and it turned out they were using that tool.
Bear in mind that Yuri uses two teams of keyworders and doesnt rely on an auto-system.
FWIW, I often have over 30 keywords, but locations can easily provide several.
e.g. Bright Angel Creek, Grand Canyon, Arizona, USA, North America, National Park, place of interest, international landmark, landmark, geological feature, etc etc
It all depends on your subject-matter. If you're shooting isolated shots for example, you then have four keywords; isolated; 'isolated on white (or whatever')'; 'plain background'; 'white (or whatever) background'.

« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2010, 02:51 »
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Maybe I wasn't clear. Words were missing when I resubmitted the image, which means after web form upload. Not during DeepMeta upload.

« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2010, 03:57 »
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No experience with DeepMeta.  But WOW - 22 keywords is alot, and that's HALF???  Yikes.

12-16 is about my range there.

I always write 40-50 ::)   Although, for Istock I delete some, because of controlled vocabulary. For example, today I submitted an image of an acrobatic airplane, and I remember that I had to delete the word "acrobatic" because Istock offers only "circus performer" and "gymnastics" as an option.

That's because the correct term would be "aerobatic"...  which is in the CV.

« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2010, 07:58 »
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No experience with DeepMeta.  But WOW - 22 keywords is alot, and that's HALF???  Yikes.

12-16 is about my range there.

I always write 40-50 ::)   Although, for Istock I delete some, because of controlled vocabulary. For example, today I submitted an image of an acrobatic airplane, and I remember that I had to delete the word "acrobatic" because Istock offers only "circus performer" and "gymnastics" as an option.

That's because the correct term would be "aerobatic"...  which is in the CV.

Thanks for the suggestion. I would never think of that since we don't use analog word to aerobatics here. We use acrobatics instead.

cmcderm1

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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2010, 10:14 »
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cmcderm1, I just checked your IS port. As I can see your best selling images all have more than 30 keywords. Did you mean that your newest files have 12-16 keywords, or?

Yup - my newest ones.  In fact, I am uploading my portoflio to another newer site and my old ones are being rejected more regularly for keywording than the newer ones.

Chad

« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2010, 12:52 »
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I heard once that there is some kind of special case made for aerobatics and demonstration flights at air shows, where under most circumstances they are not eligible for stock unless some kind of release is granted by the performers or airshow authorities.  Presumably that is because the aircraft, parachutes, certain manoeuvres and smoke patterns are very distinctive and recognizable.  Probably that is more of an issue for unique acts like the USN Blue Angels, and less of a problem with an ordinary Pitt biplane doing a loop or something, as long as you delete the ID numbers and maybe alter the custom paint job.

I have got some photos out there of antique aircraft sitting on the ground at airshows, with no people visible and with any writing or distinctive custom markings shopped out.

« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2010, 14:38 »
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I heard once that there is some kind of special case made for aerobatics and demonstration flights at air shows, where under most circumstances they are not eligible for stock unless some kind of release is granted by the performers or airshow authorities.  Presumably that is because the aircraft, parachutes, certain manoeuvres and smoke patterns are very distinctive and recognizable.  Probably that is more of an issue for unique acts like the USN Blue Angels, and less of a problem with an ordinary Pitt biplane doing a loop or something, as long as you delete the ID numbers and maybe alter the custom paint job.

I have got some photos out there of antique aircraft sitting on the ground at airshows, with no people visible and with any writing or distinctive custom markings shopped out.

This was a model of airplane, not a real one. And aerobatics were noting special. It's just a model of an airplane made for aerobatics.


 

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