Author Topic: IS new look,do you like it? (Read 16746 times)

stokfoto · « **on:** February 05, 2009, 16:53 »

Just checked IS and noticed some changes especially with thumbs.now zoom thumbs has a black border. I am not sure if I like it or not.it just seems strange to my eyes.I guess I'll have to get used to it?

hold on a minute,it's gotta be something to do with best match 2.0 too.Now I am nervous:(

digiology · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2009, 17:04 »

It's OK. Nothing too radical. Stats page is totally screwed up now though. (Which doesn't matter since it's not working anyways).

gostwyck · « **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2009, 17:33 »

I just wish they'd get the basic functions of the site back working instead of fannying about with stuff like this to be honest.

How come every other agency has live-updating statistics but IS gave up on that little 'non-essential' (to them) over ayear ago __ and now they haven't been able update stat's at all for over 2 days.

madelaide · « **Reply #3 on:** February 05, 2009, 17:40 »

The black border in zoomed image is very thin, don't mind it.

I like the new font.

Regards,
Adelaide

lisafx · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2009, 18:01 »

Quote from: gostwyck on February 05, 2009, 17:33

I just wish they'd get the basic functions of the site back working instead of fannying about with stuff like this to be honest.

How come every other agency has live-updating statistics but IS gave up on that little 'non-essential' (to them) over ayear ago __ and now they haven't been able update stat's at all for over 2 days.

Amen!

So far the new look is quite appealing and easy on the eyes, but I agree that functionality should be the top priority. The rest is just icing on the cake...

crazychristina · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2009, 18:12 »

Quote from: gostwyck on February 05, 2009, 17:33

I just wish they'd get the basic functions of the site back working instead of fannying about with stuff like this to be honest.

How come every other agency has live-updating statistics but IS gave up on that little 'non-essential' (to them) over ayear ago __ and now they haven't been able update stat's at all for over 2 days.

You mean I might actually have sold an image this week?

madelaide · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2009, 18:19 »

Quote from: averil on February 05, 2009, 18:12

You mean I might actually have sold an image this week?

In my case, I see sales in the My Uploads section and they don't appear in the stats yet. It's not something new, but I think the stats are normally only one day behind, now it's two (last activity Feb 3rd).

Regards,
Adelaide

jsnover · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2009, 22:51 »

Check and see if your stats have updated - mine did in the last few hours.

As far as the rest of the changes, I have no inside information, but a general comment about software releases is that sometimes you have to make your changes as part of a general overhaul. Continuing to work on the old an problematic code no longer makes any sense. If this is the first step towards a more maintainable, stable, fast system, then the fact that what we see first is a change in the UI isn't a problem. IS has made various comments that hint at some need to overhaul code that is badly outgunned in the current high traffic system.

If the buyers find the new layout helpful, that's great; I'm hoping this is just the leading edge of changes that will get things running more smoothly.

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2009, 23:55 »

Like it? I'm having a hard time figuring out much of a difference.

Seems like they moved a few functions like add-to-lightbox a couple layers up to make things easier for buyers.

Other than that the appearance is a bit different and it looks like they changed the layout for Windows Mobile.

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2009, 23:55 »

no update to my stats yet since morning 3rd....I can't understand why they choose to roll out such non-essential fluff when people are losing sales, stressed and buyers getting more frustrated by the minute. why can't they just deal with functionality and then do the aesthetic stuff when things have quieted?

now, not only do we not have sales because they are sorting data, but buyers are pissed off because the site is so stupidly slow. buyers don't like change....and though it is necessary in order to stay on the leading edge, the leading edge is the bleeding edge right now...they need to give their heads a shake.

so frustrating....really

hoi ha · « **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2009, 23:59 »

Well at least you all can see it - the front page will not even fully load here in Hong Kong (and BTW it is lunch time so Asian business for the day would appear to be lost) - and no it is not just me either - none of our office computers can get the front page to load properly. Typical istock ... whistles and bills seem to get added rather than fixing the more important basics.

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #11 on:** February 06, 2009, 00:04 »

Yeah, buyers must be having problems with this new design. My daily downloads and revenue are pretty consistent but today I had tumbleweeds rolling through my Balance and Stats pages.

shank_ali · « **Reply #12 on:** February 06, 2009, 02:11 »

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on February 06, 2009, 00:04

Yeah, buyers must be having problems with this new design. My daily downloads and revenue are pretty consistent but today I had tumbleweeds rolling through my Balance and Stats pages.

You have been watching to many John Wayne films me thinks.
Sales are slow but constant..to many x small sales this week.
The designers are buying small to spread the cost of the new bundle packages.
I like the wider page and border.

anton9 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 06, 2009, 03:25 »

I think it looks good. I like the grey borders around the images in view my portfolio. Hopefully the site will pick up speed now and everyone can get back to normal or increased downloads

caspixel · « **Reply #14 on:** February 06, 2009, 10:44 »

Is there a new look? It's taking an eternity for pages to load, if at all.

gostwyck · « **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:01 »

Quote from: caspixel on February 06, 2009, 10:44

Is there a new look? It's taking an eternity for pages to load, if at all.

Out of interest, why do you continue to visit the site that you keep saying charges too much and also 'makes you puke'?

tan510jomast · « **Reply #16 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:28 »

IGNORE BUTTON

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #17 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:31 »

Quote from: gostwyck on February 06, 2009, 11:01

Quote from: caspixel on February 06, 2009, 10:44
Is there a new look? It's taking an eternity for pages to load, if at all.

Out of interest, why do you continue to visit the site that you keep saying charges too much and also 'makes you puke'?

wow gostwyck - you're pretty harsh....how about not worrying about it? clearly if someone has opinions that strong it is because they actually care and are frustrated with the constant change. I'm a pretty dedicated contributor and I too am getting pretty fed up with the constant expectation of us to just accept the changes with patience and optimism. yeah right, I wonder how patient IS would be if their overall sales dropped by 75%......

chill, why not lose the personal attacks and focus on being constructive?

ichiro17 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:32 »

Can someone break down the size requirements for each category?

How many MP is the XXXL?

I'd really like 28 credits at some point

caspixel · « **Reply #19 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:37 »

Quote from: tan510jomast on February 06, 2009, 11:28

IGNORE BUTTON

Pixart · « **Reply #20 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:42 »

Quote from: shank_ali on February 06, 2009, 02:11

Sales are slow but constant..to many x small sales this week.
The designers are buying small to spread the cost of the new bundle packages.

Most of my sales this month have been 22 cents. I've noticed the phenomenon of xs sales on all the sites - unless they are sub sales of course; those are always max. More bloggers buying legit photos?

gostwyck · « **Reply #21 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:46 »

Quote from: yecatsdoherty on February 06, 2009, 11:31

Out of interest, why do you continue to visit the site that you keep saying charges too much and also 'makes you puke'?

wow gostwyck - you're pretty harsh....how about not worrying about it? clearly if someone has opinions that strong it is because they actually care and are frustrated with the constant change. I'm a pretty dedicated contributor and I too am getting pretty fed up with the constant expectation of us to just accept the changes with patience and optimism. yeah right, I wonder how patient IS would be if their overall sales dropped by 75%......

chill, why not lose the personal attacks and focus on being constructive?
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I'm not being 'harsh'. I'm genuinely interested as to why some who keeps stating how much she hates a particular agency (and very amusingly too) would keep going back there. It's not as if there's nowhere else to go.

tan510jomast · « **Reply #22 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:49 »

GRANTED gostwyck, but there are other way to express your opinion without personally attacking anyone.

READ YOUR AGREEMENT...that you agree when you join this forum:
You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law.

tuilay · « **Reply #23 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:54 »

Quote from: gostwyck on February 06, 2009, 11:01

Quote from: caspixel on February 06, 2009, 10:44
Is there a new look? It's taking an eternity for pages to load, if at all.

Out of interest, why do you continue to visit the site that you keep saying charges too much and also 'makes you puke'?

cyberbullying again, gostwyck?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber-bullying

null · « **Reply #24 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:55 »

Quote from: gostwyck on February 06, 2009, 11:01

Out of interest, why do you continue to visit the site that you keep saying charges too much and also 'makes you puke'?

I think he mentioned the forum. I'm allergic to their forums too, so I just don't read them. But I do like the iStock technical tutorials a lot.

lisafx · « **Reply #25 on:** February 06, 2009, 12:04 »

In addition to stats not updating, I can't get the stats page to load AT ALL today.

sharply_done · « **Reply #26 on:** February 06, 2009, 12:05 »

Quote from: lisafx on February 06, 2009, 12:04

In addition to stats not updating, I can't get the stats page to load AT ALL today.

That's odd, everything seems to be working for me.

anton9 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 06, 2009, 12:20 »

The site is a little slow but i think everything is almost back to normal now. Stats have updated and pages are loading quicker. Sales have been quite good too

lisafx · « **Reply #28 on:** February 06, 2009, 12:21 »

Quote from: anton9 on February 06, 2009, 12:20

The site is a little slow but i think everything is almost back to normal now. Stats have updated and pages are loading quicker. Sales have been quite good too

Anton, you're right, my stats are finally back and updated too. And sales were higher than expected!

null · « **Reply #29 on:** February 06, 2009, 13:51 »

Quote from: lisafx on February 06, 2009, 12:21

Anton, you're right, my stats are finally back and updated too. And sales were higher than expected!

Same here. Buyers must have woken up after the year-end recess and Chinese New Year. It's the same on SS with On Demand sales daily and one extended 4 days ago. Only DT drags its feet this month.

On topic: I don't like the black border around the pop-ups. For people shots, it looks like an obituary.

anaire · « **Reply #30 on:** February 06, 2009, 16:02 »

And nobody said anything about the fonts?
Is it only me who thinks they're blurry, unreadable and just plain weird?
All my PCs are on XP though... might that be the problem?
One of the most important factors in successful web design is readability.
Right now I can barely make up their text.
I wonder what their style sheet looks like...
Previewing images on dark grey enhances the visual experience in some cases. But not all.
And there's another rule in play here - to accurately assess an image you need a neutral grey background.
Using a black frame it's a bit like cheating.
But no matter, designers know that, and if they're happy, so should we.
I just hope they'll fix those darn fonts soon ...
Anna

anaire · « **Reply #31 on:** February 06, 2009, 16:23 »

Hey!
I came back to ask you about DT!
Have you looked at your ports on DT today?
Have they changed the preview as well? (to a slighter lighter gray than IS)?
Or was it the same before and I simply never paid any attention?
I can't remember... I can't remember...

@FlemishDreams,
yes, you're right. DT is slower lately (sales wise) for me too. But then I'm only a newbie.
Still, I'm sad. I like them a lot.

madelaide · « **Reply #32 on:** February 06, 2009, 16:26 »

Quote from: anaire on February 06, 2009, 16:02

And nobody said anything about the fonts?

I did, reply #3. I like the font.

My stats are updated until tomorrow now. Unfortunately no sales today, so I can't tell if the stats are more accurate than before.

Regards,
Adelaide

null · « **Reply #33 on:** February 06, 2009, 16:48 »

Quote from: anaire on February 06, 2009, 16:23

I came back to ask you about DT!
Have you looked at your ports on DT today?
Have they changed the preview as well? (to a slighter lighter gray than IS)?

Yes DT has the obituary frame too suddenly. It must be a conspiracy between DT and iS!
There are light designs (like DT and iS) and dark designs (like MostPhotos). It hurts the eyes when you enter deviant color or luminance schemes.

lagereek · « **Reply #34 on:** February 07, 2009, 06:44 »

Just saw it actually! yeah I think its nice, the black paspartous, borders around the shots gives it more of a Pro-feeling.

Dreamframer · « **Reply #35 on:** February 07, 2009, 09:58 »

I like it, but to be honest, it's not very important to me. For me as a photographer and audiographer, functionality of upload system is more important.

pieman · « **Reply #36 on:** February 17, 2009, 11:09 »

Quote from: gostwyck on February 06, 2009, 11:01

Quote from: caspixel on February 06, 2009, 10:44
Is there a new look? It's taking an eternity for pages to load, if at all.

Out of interest, why do you continue to visit the site that you keep saying charges too much and also 'makes you puke'?

That's a great question. Stacey, don't bother coming to Caspixels defense here. I'd like to see why she chooses to as well.

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #37 on:** February 17, 2009, 12:18 »

hey pieman, I'll do whatever I like. thanks.

pieman · « **Reply #38 on:** February 17, 2009, 12:31 »

Quote from: yecatsdoherty on February 17, 2009, 12:18

hey pieman, I'll do whatever I like. thanks.

Sure, you go ahead. You do enough damage to your credibility on your own. I'll leave you to it.

yingyang0 · « **Reply #39 on:** February 17, 2009, 13:25 »

Gettying back to the original topic. I'm not a fan of the new look, especially the new monthly stat look.

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #40 on:** February 18, 2009, 11:45 »

Quote from: pieman on February 17, 2009, 12:31

Quote from: yecatsdoherty on February 17, 2009, 12:18
hey pieman, I'll do whatever I like. thanks.
Sure, you go ahead. You do enough damage to your credibility on your own. I'll leave you to it.

you know what Lobo, a few people have kindly emailed me to let me know that pieman is you and I responded that there was no way because Lobo isn't rude or hostile, but doing his job and in general a classy guy. I'm very sorry and disappointed that this is actually you. obviously I was wrong about you, and you are definitely wrong about me. it seems that istock forum bullying follows us out to the real world too.

* if this isn't Lobo, I'm glad because I'm not usually that wrong about people.

caspixel · « **Reply #41 on:** February 19, 2009, 02:22 »

Quote from: pieman on February 17, 2009, 11:09

Quote from: gostwyck on February 06, 2009, 11:01
Quote from: caspixel on February 06, 2009, 10:44
Is there a new look? It's taking an eternity for pages to load, if at all.

Out of interest, why do you continue to visit the site that you keep saying charges too much and also 'makes you puke'?

That's a great question. Stacey, don't bother coming to Caspixels defense here. I'd like to see why she chooses to as well.

Because iStock ROCKS.

hoi ha · « **Reply #42 on:** February 19, 2009, 02:51 »

Quote from: yecatsdoherty on February 18, 2009, 11:45

Quote from: pieman on February 17, 2009, 12:31
Quote from: yecatsdoherty on February 17, 2009, 12:18
hey pieman, I'll do whatever I like. thanks.
Sure, you go ahead. You do enough damage to your credibility on your own. I'll leave you to it.

you know what Lobo, a few people have kindly emailed me to let me know that pieman is you and I responded that there was no way because Lobo isn't rude or hostile, but doing his job and in general a classy guy. I'm very sorry and disappointed that this is actually you. obviously I was wrong about you, and you are definitely wrong about me. it seems that istock forum bullying follows us out to the real world too.

* if this isn't Lobo, I'm glad because I'm not usually that wrong about people.

As a buyer I came to this site because people (usually) treated each other with respect and contributors were honestly interested in getting feedback from buyers. We buyers and contributors do not always agree, for sure, but here we treat each other with respect and only rarely rudeness. This is a site mainly for contributors, yes, but I do believe that it is valuable for buyers as well so that we may understand your point of view and get a greater appreciation for the hard work many people put into creating quality images for us to purchase. I like the idea that we need each other and value each other's contributions to this world that we call microstock.

I stopped participating at istock because the forums there treat buyers like total rubbish and they shout down, insult and otherwise belittle their opinions. I am now dismayed to see that these same istock fanatics seem to have migrated to this site (at the behest of whom I wonder?) and are now actively trying to shut down opinions about istock that might not fit what they want to hear.

This is not the istock forums - please treat people with respect and allow them the opportunity to express their opinions and do not attack people personally. If you succeed in hijacking this site you will lose what I believe is an opportunity for buyers and contributors to learn from each other.

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #43 on:** February 19, 2009, 03:15 »

see below

hoi ha · « **Reply #44 on:** February 19, 2009, 03:32 »

Quote from: yecatsdoherty on February 19, 2009, 03:15

hey hoi ha - I just wanted to clarify that you are pointing your comments to pieman...his comment to me was very biting, and I waited for a long time tonight before replying to him and I hope my reply was as courteous as possible.

I'd also like to share how upset this has made me. I'm not a shrinking violet, and in fairness to istock, I have been quite vocal recently. not so much about changes happening, change is very necessary, but because of how we are treated as contributors and buyers when these changes occur.

I have always been a very positive, joking--and I hope--helpful participant in the forums. I have been sarcastic at times too, but usually jokingly and in a good hearted nature. my enthusiasm for istock has always been on my sleeve, and I have worked pretty hard to establish myself on the site. it seemed everyone was a good friend, including many of the admins.

from almost the first post I made in disagreement with IS policies, announcements and decisions over the last few months -- I began receiving pressure from all sides. certain established istockers, who are clearly in bed with the admins, starting being very rude and overtly called me out in forums without consequence. I have been removed from admin creative networks and I have now realized that this has followed me out to this forum too.

I am definitely willing to take my lumps, and anyone who knows me knows that if I ever learn of insulting someone, I am the first person to go right away and apologize. I have received so many calls, emails, sitemails from other IS users in the last few months telling me of their own experiences and how afraid they are to participate in the forums. they have asked me to keep on asking questions and not to let the pressure get to me and they have consistently told me that though I am asking tough questions, I always do it well and professionally. these are people I don't even know, who are taking the time to send me supportive messages and I appreciate it immensely.

but you know what, it has been REALLY upsetting. I was actually in tears tonight when I saw that post. please excuse my language, but this kind of crap is so playground, it is unbelievable.

I just hope other contributors learn from this. it isn't worth it to expose yourself in the forums on IS, especially if you plan on disagreeing with their policies or their attitudes. just do your work, upload and keep doing your best. that is what I am doing now, with eyes wide open.

I agree with what you said hoi ha. this has been my experience. and as hard as it is, I see no point in reacting any further to them. I think sometimes that is what they want anyways.

Yecats - yes, I was upset to read the attacks against you and others and that is what I was referring to in my post. I found the personal attacks uncalled for and not in keeping with the spirit of this site.

All I know is I enjoy this forum, I enjoy the diversity of opinion and I enjoy the fact that we can express ourselves without fear of being attacked. We will not all agree - and who wants that anyway? - but that is why this is a great site. If someone disagrees with a post, then by all means say so ...just don't let it devolve into personal attacks.

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #45 on:** February 19, 2009, 03:43 »

yes, I agree with you.

this is an awesome site, where someone is always willing to help and offer advice. I thought it was a safe haven to discuss IS problems. the post I read tonight that was directed at me was so insulting, and it eventually had me in tears. I am not easily overwhelmed but I think it was the icing on the cake.

I have chosen not to participate in any IS forums from now on. I just want to upload, sell my work and be left alone. I have been very pressured for two months to silence my opinions about what I feel are very poorly handled changes. but conversely, I have received so many emails, calls and sitemails from other contributors who have agreed with my opinions of late. I am very thankful for their support, because otherwise I would be feeling pretty low.

I have obviously ticked off a few big wigs, and I am worried they will overtly close my account. stating an opinion is not worth that to me. I have worked too hard and feel it would be immensely unfair of them to do that. I am nervous to post anything here too, so I`ll be reading, but that`s about it. thanks again to all for the messages tonight. seriously, much appreciated.

caspixel · « **Reply #46 on:** February 19, 2009, 10:27 »

iStock seriously needs to chill out. They are becoming the * of microstock, looking to silence any and all opposition. So a few people are disgruntled about their policies. So what? It was bound to happen the bigger and more corporate they become. But it looks really, really bad when their admins come onto other forums and personally attack their contributors and buyers.

Seriously, WTH is going on over there with their culture and their business? It's like they've become wild animals, attacking out of desperation.

gostwyck · « **Reply #47 on:** February 19, 2009, 10:40 »

Quote from: caspixel on February 19, 2009, 10:27

iStock seriously needs to chill out. They are becoming the * of microstock, looking to silence any and all opposition. So a few people are disgruntled about their policies. So what? It was bound to happen the bigger and more corporate they become. But it looks really, really bad when their admins come onto other forums and personally attack their contributors and buyers.

Seriously, WTH is going on over there with their culture and their business? It's like they've become wild animals, attacking out of desperation.

Sorry but this is absurd. Calling IS *? You must read a completely different set of forums to me because I see plenty of dissent and disagreement that is almost invariably allowed to run its course. You've obviously never tried the FT forum.

I doubt very much that you have any evidence that "... their admins come onto other forums and personally attack their contributors and buyers."

This thread has descended into ridiculous hysterical nonsense.

loop · « **Reply #48 on:** February 19, 2009, 11:11 »

Quote from: caspixel on February 19, 2009, 10:27

iStock seriously needs to chill out. They are becoming the * of microstock, looking to silence any and all opposition. So a few people are disgruntled about their policies. So what? It was bound to happen the bigger and more corporate they become. But it looks really, really bad when their admins come onto other forums and personally attack their contributors and buyers.

Seriously, WTH is going on over there with their culture and their business? It's like they've become wild animals, attacking out of desperation.

There's people that can't tell the difference between "disagree" or "attack". I've never seen personal attacks on IS forums. Unless not saying "Yes, you're right" and adding "I have a different opinion"is an attack. Maybe semantics have changed. In any case, I haven't not seen any attack (as defined in the dictionary), so I would need a quoted example of these kind of "attacks" to consider it. Btw, I don't think these examples exist.

Then, complaining about a closed thread once you and the other person defending your same point of view have posted about 40-45 times (20 one, 20 the other, more or less) in five days , doesn't seem at all as if these people have been deprived the opportunity of telling their minds.

Nothing to say to the fact that people complain about rises on prices. It's right and is a valid opinion. But when your realize that in the last three years 90% of the posts complaining about that come from the two same posters, and that their posts into this theme roughly approaches the number of 300, is that something that I can't' define seems to be going on.

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #49 on:** February 19, 2009, 11:33 »

loop - I'm not sure if I am one of your two posters or not. but if so, if I have made 300 posts, I guarantee that if you actually read most of them, they are all fluffy and inconsequential. with the exception of the last few months.

what has fueled my feelings of 'hysteria' has been the response I received so quickly from admins. it isn't true that discussions are allowed to run their course. certainly best match threads are allowed, so I give credit to them for that. but I also think that is because other users come in there and effectively shut down nay sayers before admins even have to. it is kind of a self-limiting thread. the current thread was shut down when an established, well-liked contributor threw her two cents in very angrily.

if it appears that I have purposely stirred the pot out of some hatred I have for iStock, then that is a very false impression and one I would like to correct. I am very proud of being in the iStock image collection. I have been quite stressed about falling sales, and thought the forums were a place to express that concern.

behind the avatars, usernames and forum cliques.....at this point all I care about is doing my work and maybe helping someone else along the way once in a while, as many generous istockers have helped me as I learned the ropes. I'm not trying to be a smartass or to save face. I'm upset how the forum fiasco has devolved and I am taking very seriously some of the comments that have been made to me.

I'm a pretty conscientious person, and anyone who knows me in real life will attest to that. I work hard and just want my work to be valued, and I guess I was so upset about the comment that pieman directed at me yesterday because it was just flat out mean and without purpose. and it embarrassed me.

I don't think istcok are *, I think they have every right to protect their business interests. as do contributors and buyers.

loop · « **Reply #50 on:** February 19, 2009, 11:42 »

No, I wasn't meaning you.

[[/quote]

"I don't think istcok are *, I think they have every right to protect their business interests. as do contributors and buyers".
[/quote]

And, at this point, we agree.

Microbius · « **Reply #51 on:** February 19, 2009, 12:20 »

Quote from: pieman on February 17, 2009, 11:09

Quote from: gostwyck on February 06, 2009, 11:01
Quote from: caspixel on February 06, 2009, 10:44
Is there a new look? It's taking an eternity for pages to load, if at all.

Out of interest, why do you continue to visit the site that you keep saying charges too much and also 'makes you puke'?
That's a great question. Stacey, don't bother coming to Caspixels defense here. I'd like to see why she chooses to as well.

That was 11 days ago, can't we all just get along?

vonkara · « **Reply #52 on:** February 19, 2009, 12:39 »

This thread came OFF TOPIC

Microbius · « **Reply #53 on:** February 19, 2009, 12:54 »

Quote from: Vonkara on February 19, 2009, 12:39

This thread came OFF TOPIC

big time

melastmohican · « **Reply #54 on:** February 19, 2009, 13:09 »

Who cares about cosmetic changes in UI. For me, newcomer, it's still less important site. Hard to upload, ridiculously long review time with very small upload limits. Almost non-existing sales. Actually I got more sales on Crestock which is easier to upload to but still very bad with other mentioned factors. Most site were able to review couple thousand photos last year these guys only 200. I am now only uploading 15 images a month to IS, maybe they will start selling some day... For now it's just waste of time.

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #55 on:** February 19, 2009, 13:20 »

even though I disagree with the timing of the UI changes, I think they are more than cosmetic and actually seem to have improved speed and clarity on the pages.

the changes seem to be far deeper than just a facelift. page loading and usability have improved as far as I am seeing in my own usage. though I still hate the little fonts and the weird fuzzy grey buttons and dumping the CSS reboot right in the middle of best match angst and audio launch is bizarre.

null · « **Reply #56 on:** February 19, 2009, 15:35 »

Quote from: Vonkara on February 19, 2009, 12:39

This thread came OFF TOPIC

Finally! The * have been mentioned. This forum isn't immune to Godwin's Law after all.

bittersweet · « **Reply #57 on:** February 19, 2009, 15:47 »

I'm sorry to join in the additional off-topic discussion but the allegations against Chris (a.k.a. "Lobo") really bother me, as my experiences working with him have been completely professional. In fact, he has gone out of his way on more than one occasion to help me clear something up, or merely just listen to me vent.

I want to know if there is any "evidence" other than the fact that the person who "attacked" you has the username "pieman" and it is a well-established fact on the istock forums that Lobo likes pie.

Please tell me that your informants are basing their accusations on something more reasonable, something substantiating the kind of conclusion that a logical person might draw. One person making that huge mental leap and then passing it along as "helpful" information is, in my opinion, worse than anything that has been said to anyone in this thread.

shank_ali · « **Reply #58 on:** February 19, 2009, 17:16 »

Pieman = Lobo $:-\$

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #59 on:** February 19, 2009, 19:12 »

^ if you read the posts that the user pieman has made over the past couple of years, he is referred to and responds to Lobo. I did not accuse him of anything, but pieman made a defamatory statement about me, which I feel is unacceptable. If pieman is not Lobo, then someone is pretending to be Lobo. frankly that would be a welcome realization because I did not think the Lobo I have known would make those types of comments, comments with the sole purpose of shutting someone down. and I said that in my post.

if it is him, he obviously can't stand me, which is too bad. for the record, one of the so called informants is a pseudo admin and was just being helpful. especially since the comment pieman made was unprovoked.

I have no personal grudges against anyone.

shank_ali · « **Reply #60 on:** February 20, 2009, 02:19 »

I don't believe Lobo was behind my banning from the istock forum.
I am one of about 40,000 who don't post in the istock forum.I can't and the other 39,999 can't be arsed or can't see the point.

thesentinel · « **Reply #61 on:** February 20, 2009, 03:40 »

Quote from: yecatsdoherty on February 19, 2009, 19:12

^ if you read the posts that the user pieman has made over the past couple of years, he is referred to and responds to Lobo. I did not accuse him of anything, but pieman made a defamatory statement about me, which I feel is unacceptable. If pieman is not Lobo, then someone is pretending to be Lobo. frankly that would be a welcome realization because I did not think the Lobo I have known would make those types of comments, comments with the sole purpose of shutting someone down. and I said that in my post.

if it is him, he obviously can't stand me, which is too bad. for the record, one of the so called informants is a pseudo admin and was just being helpful. especially since the comment pieman made was unprovoked.

I have no personal grudges against anyone.

I hardly think what was said was defamatory, in the whole spectrum of opinion about the emotional posts you have been making there are bound to be those who think you have lost credibility, just as there are those who will be contacting you agreeing with you, and just as there will be those who will have formed differing opinions over the way you've handled yourself here.

Microbius · « **Reply #62 on:** February 20, 2009, 11:08 »

Quote from: FlemishDreams on February 19, 2009, 15:35

Quote from: Vonkara on February 19, 2009, 12:39
This thread came OFF TOPIC

Finally! The * have been mentioned. This forum isn't immune to Godwin's Law after all.

You always have the coolest links!

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #63 on:** February 20, 2009, 11:24 »

thesentinel: I don't really want to keep rehashing this, I have responded as well as I can to questions. and as I said in other posts, the comment really upset me.

if anyone else wishes to talk about this. I think sitemail or email would be more appropriate. at this point, I just want to concentrate on my images and my latest novel.

thesentinel · « **Reply #64 on:** February 21, 2009, 03:34 »

Quote from: yecatsdoherty on February 20, 2009, 11:24

thesentinel: I don't really want to keep rehashing this, I have responded as well as I can to questions. and as I said in other posts, the comment really upset me.

if anyone else wishes to talk about this. I think sitemail or email would be more appropriate. at this point, I just want to concentrate on my images and my latest novel.

Well I guess that's similar to an admin locking a thread then.

Can also you not see that when you post "I have chosen not to participate in any IS forums from now on." one day and then are posting there again within two days does reduce your credibility somewhat.

Whilst you have by no means been the first to have experienced significant swings over the years I think as a 'frequent flyer' poster and an initial degree of light-heartedness you had a gained a great deal of sympathy which you then started losing with increasingly emotional, for want of a better word, outbursts.

I hope you do find yourself in a 'better place' soon as when you're there you're a fun person to have around.

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #65 on:** February 21, 2009, 13:14 »

abzee - pls don't try to pull me into discussions. when I said I would not participate in the iStock forums, it was not a black and white statement. children make black and white statements. I'm certainly not going to post anything that will get me in hot water anymore, and I'm certainly not participating in the typical istock browning nose threads where everyone gushes over one of the admins, or engages in blatant ego massage. in fact I am throughly embarrassed that when I first started on iStock I did engage in these threads in an effort to 'join' the community.

if you really know me on iStock, you would know that before about three weeks ago, I particpated heavily in all areas of the IS forum. so relatively speaking, I am absent enough now that people are emailing me to find out where I went. credibility is subjective. I would be more concerned if I lost credibility over some issue that I am deeply committed to....but if I have lost credibility because I posted in defense of a colleague after saying I wouldn't post again...I don't really care. it is anyone's prerogative to think what they want about me or anyone else.

as for shutting down the discussion. this thread is not about me, it is about the new UI. if you want to start another thread where we talk about this stuff, by all means. I will certainly participate.

and I would like to add -- I'm sorry if you want fun Stacey back. I'm still here, but the forum experience lately for me has been horrible. I think you are being very biased, frankly. if you knew how many people have had similar experiences to mine in dealing with istock 'officials' and feeling almost harrassed, perhaps you would feel differently. besides, I'm Irish....harnessed emotion is not one of my genetic fortes. I have been emotional, but I have not written any so called outbursts.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #66 on:** February 21, 2009, 15:47 »

Quote from: yecatsdoherty on February 21, 2009, 13:14

abzee - pls don't try to pull me into discussions. when I said I would not participate in the iStock forums, it was not a black and white statement. children make black and white statements.

Sounded pretty black and white to me:
"I have chosen not to participate in any IS forums from now on. I just want to upload, sell my work and be left alone."
http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/is-new-look-do-you-like-it/msg84832/#msg84832

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #67 on:** February 21, 2009, 16:10 »

Sean, I can react to your bullying or I can respond with an explanation. I'm going to try the latter because I've heard that despite how much you seem to go out of your way to intimidate people in the forums, you are a really nice guy in real life. if that is true, can you for a moment understand how it feels to have someone like you breathing down the neck of someone like me in a thread? if your question is meant to discredit me, or to point out that I have discredited myself somehow, then there is really nothing I can say. you can think what you want of course.

in answer to your sarcasm: I made a point of saying I won't be participating in iStock forums because I was getting a lot of sitemails asking me where I had gone. people wondered if I had been banned. so I posted that note to explain that I was CHOOSING not to participate anymore because of the flack I have been receiving. I didn't make that statement as a tantrum or an ultimatum. I'm not fooling myself into thinking that anyone at IS cares if I participate in the forums or not.

I made that statement only to let people know my relative silence was a decision. I am not sitting here thinking of ways to look witty or give ultimatums to istock. I'm not threatening to remove exclusivity, I'm not threatening to stay out of forums, because frankly they probably already wish I would. I AM staying out of the forums. I did respond in two threads in the last week, one of which included a friend of mine and was total fluff....the other of which included a colleague who was being spoken to rudely after he expressed concern about his dwindling income. I then also included a note about my sales. why did I do that? I don't know, because I felt like it. is it okay if I still read the forums? I would like to know when 2.0 is going to come out like everyone else.

Sean, why do you care about anything that I do anyways? I'm nothing to you, so why don't you just leave me be? I don't believe I have ever done anything to you, in fact I have always admired your work and your presence on iStock and I have always mentioned my admiration of your work very publicly. but, I don't care for the way you treat people in the forums. that's it and that's all.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #68 on:** February 21, 2009, 16:21 »

I'm not "bullying". I'm just pointing out why "thesentinel" was under the impression you weren't going to post anymore.

Don't post on forums if you don't want people to respond to you, in a way you like or otherwise. You seem to take things very personally, when people are just responding to what you have posted (witness the suggestion exclusivity may not be for you).

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #69 on:** February 21, 2009, 17:13 »

I think disregarding someone's concerns as "taking things personally" is a really overused and predictable tactic on iStock. obviously you take things personally, or you wouldn't chime in as frequently as you do. taking things personally shows that you care, that you are a principled person and that you are committed to your work. I'd say you are all those things. so am I.

I have been on the site for just over two years. never before in all the threads I have participated in, have I received any pressure or warnings or what I would call bullying. and I have disagreed with LOTS of people on lots of subjects, fairly, I hope kindly, at times sarcastically but to my knowledge never offensively.

only once I got into the best match stuff and started asking for information from above did this start happening. the reason for my frustration is not a personality instability as you are implying....the reason for my frustration is genuine concern regarding my income level and the future possibility of sudden drops.

income is personal, but regardless, I have not taken things to a personal level. I try to keep every post focused on the issues I am most concerned with; the nature of best match changes and the nature of communication from above at iStock. despite the rude, sarcastic and personal cracks that have been made at me, including your I Hate Stacey Slider comment, which coming from you was a real knock for me. cracks like that are meant to do one thing only, make someone look like an ass. you're a legend around there, you should have more respect for the influence and effect you have on people with your comments.

as for Rob's exclusivity comment: to suggest that someone who is worried about their sudden fall in income is not able to handle exclusivity, is insulting. I have earned my exclusivity, proudly. Rob's suggestion removes all responsibility from iStock for keeping their hard working contributors in the dark. I believe the truth is somewhere in the middle. I am OVERLY concerned at this point, absolutely!.....and they are underestimating how poorly they are communicating changes and how much unnecessary tension their business attitude is causing.

my reaction wasn't personal, I really disliked the timing of Rob's comment and I still do. I am precisely the type of contributor they should want to be exclusive. I have worked really hard, I'll be hitting gold after two years and hopefully I will be a good earner at IS at some point. why discourage my exclusivity, publicly no less? especially when they have put forth such an effort to lure new exclusives? what does that say to people?

vonkara · « **Reply #70 on:** February 21, 2009, 18:17 »

I really like the new Istock look

caspixel · « **Reply #71 on:** February 21, 2009, 19:33 »

Since when does being emotional/passionate about something = lacking credibility?

gostwyck · « **Reply #72 on:** February 21, 2009, 23:30 »

Quote from: caspixel on February 21, 2009, 19:33

Since when does being emotional/passionate about something = lacking credibility?

A hypothetical situation might be when you say you are going to do/not-do something (like participate in the IS forum for example) and then continue to do the opposite __ several times over whilst blaming everyone else for your actions.

Clivia · « **Reply #73 on:** February 22, 2009, 01:42 »

I really like the new Istock look too.

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #74 on:** February 22, 2009, 02:03 »

Quote from: gostwyck on February 21, 2009, 23:30

Quote from: caspixel on February 21, 2009, 19:33
Since when does being emotional/passionate about something = lacking credibility?

A hypothetical situation might be when you say you are going to do/not-do something (like participate in the IS forum for example) and then continue to do the opposite __ several times over whilst blaming everyone else for your actions.

sigh - whatever. honestly, what else can I say? I didn't blame anyone for anything. I'm having questions fired at me, and then when I finally address the examples someone has thrown at me, I am accused of blaming other people.

gostwyck and anyone else who seems to be taking pleasure in this, just leave it, please. this isn't about winning some stupid forum war for me. I'm trying to answer questions in order to clarify things and respond to accusations that are completely skewed - and then a whole new epidemic of sarcasm breaks out. if you're trying to make me feel even crumbier, don't bother. I'm already there.

gostwyck · « **Reply #75 on:** February 22, 2009, 02:58 »

Gannet77 · « **Reply #76 on:** February 22, 2009, 05:37 »

IS new look? Yes, I like it.

caspixel · « **Reply #77 on:** February 22, 2009, 10:11 »

Quote from: gostwyck on February 22, 2009, 02:58

I really, honestly don't get what your problem is.

Why do you even care? Seriously, if you don't like what she is saying and it's irritating you enough to write paragraphs about it, why don't you just put her on "ignore". Like I'm doing to you, right now. No response is necessary.

michealo · « **Reply #78 on:** February 22, 2009, 12:08 »

Quote from: yecatsdoherty on February 21, 2009, 13:14

besides, I'm Irish....harnessed emotion is not one of my genetic fortes.

Stacey you say you are Irish here, but on your iStock profile and your personal website you say you are Canadian?

bittersweet · « **Reply #79 on:** February 22, 2009, 12:38 »

Quote from: michealo on February 22, 2009, 12:08

Quote from: yecatsdoherty on February 21, 2009, 13:14
besides, I'm Irish....harnessed emotion is not one of my genetic fortes.

Stacey you say you are Irish here, but on your iStock profile and your personal website you say you are Canadian?

Ohmigosh. Methinks this is getting completely out of hand.

Not that I know (or care) about her personal particulars, but I feel certain that it is possible for her to be of Irish descent and live in Canada and/or have lived in Canada for an extended period of time.

yecatsdoherty · « **Reply #80 on:** February 22, 2009, 13:44 »

I am a proud Canadian, born in Canada, but of mainly Irish descent. my maiden name was Doherty. I also have some Acadian and Scottish in me. but I don't smoke and I don't like mutton, so clearly those genes aren't as strong as the Irish - I do drink and I'm stubborn. I can hear many of you gasping in surprise.

leaf · « **Reply #81 on:** February 22, 2009, 15:23 »

yeah, that is interesting actually.. how Canadians (myself included) say we are whatever nationality we are in regards to our family background... everyone (except for the native americans) came from somewhere besides Canada just over 100 years ago so foreign culture is still pretty strong. I always grew up saying I was Norwegian.. that is a common question in Canada, to ask someone, 'what are you' and they answer... german, irish, norwegian, frensh etc. etc. although everyone was really Canadian, and if we were overseas we would say we were Canadian, but in Canada we were something else

anyhow... i am not sure this topic is discussing anything to do with how iStock looks anymore so...

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