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« Reply #50 on: February 19, 2009, 11:42 »
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No, I wasn't meaning you.

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"I don't think istcok are *, I think they have every right to protect their business interests. as do contributors and buyers".
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And, at this point, we agree.


Microbius

« Reply #51 on: February 19, 2009, 12:20 »
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Is there a new look? It's taking an eternity for pages to load, if at all.

Out of interest, why do you continue to visit the site that you keep saying charges too much and also 'makes you puke'?
That's a great question. Stacey, don't bother coming to Caspixels defense here. I'd like to see why she chooses to as well.


That was 11 days ago, can't we all just get along?

vonkara

« Reply #52 on: February 19, 2009, 12:39 »
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This thread came OFF TOPIC
« Last Edit: February 19, 2009, 12:41 by Vonkara »

Microbius

« Reply #53 on: February 19, 2009, 12:54 »
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This thread came OFF TOPIC
big time

« Reply #54 on: February 19, 2009, 13:09 »
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Who cares about cosmetic changes in UI. For me, newcomer, it's still less important site. Hard to upload, ridiculously long review time with very small upload limits. Almost non-existing sales.  Actually I got more sales on Crestock which is easier to upload to but still very bad with other mentioned factors. Most site were able to review couple thousand photos last year these guys only 200. I am now only uploading 15 images a month to IS, maybe they will start selling some day... For now it's just waste of time.

yecatsdoherty

« Reply #55 on: February 19, 2009, 13:20 »
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even though I disagree with the timing of the UI changes, I think they are more than cosmetic and actually seem to have improved speed and clarity on the pages.

the changes seem to be far deeper than just a facelift. page loading and usability have improved as far as I am seeing in my own usage. though I still hate the little fonts and the weird fuzzy grey buttons and dumping the CSS reboot right in the middle of best match angst and audio launch is bizarre.

« Reply #56 on: February 19, 2009, 15:35 »
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This thread came OFF TOPIC


Finally! The * have been mentioned. This forum isn't immune to Godwin's Law after all.  ;D

bittersweet

« Reply #57 on: February 19, 2009, 15:47 »
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I'm sorry to join in the additional off-topic discussion but the allegations against Chris (a.k.a. "Lobo") really bother me, as my experiences working with him have been completely professional. In fact, he has gone out of his way on more than one occasion to help me clear something up, or merely just listen to me vent.

I want to know if there is any "evidence" other than the fact that the person who "attacked" you has the username "pieman" and it is a well-established fact on the istock forums that Lobo likes pie.

Please tell me that your informants are basing their accusations on something more reasonable, something substantiating the kind of conclusion that a logical person might draw. One person making that huge mental leap and then passing it along as "helpful" information is, in my opinion, worse than anything that has been said to anyone in this thread.

shank_ali

« Reply #58 on: February 19, 2009, 17:16 »
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Pieman = Lobo  :-\

yecatsdoherty

« Reply #59 on: February 19, 2009, 19:12 »
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^ if you read the posts that the user pieman has made over the past couple of years, he is referred to and responds to Lobo. I did not accuse him of anything, but pieman made a defamatory statement about me, which I feel is unacceptable. If pieman is not Lobo, then someone is pretending to be Lobo. frankly that would be a welcome realization because I did not think the Lobo I have known would make those types of comments, comments with the sole purpose of shutting someone down. and I said that in my post.

if it is him, he obviously can't stand me, which is too bad. for the record, one of the so called informants is a pseudo admin and was just being helpful. especially since the comment pieman made was unprovoked.

I have no personal grudges against anyone.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2009, 19:24 by yecatsdoherty »

shank_ali

« Reply #60 on: February 20, 2009, 02:19 »
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I don't believe Lobo was behind my banning from the istock forum.
I am one of about 40,000 who don't post in the istock forum.I can't and the other 39,999 can't be arsed or can't see the point.

« Reply #61 on: February 20, 2009, 03:40 »
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^ if you read the posts that the user pieman has made over the past couple of years, he is referred to and responds to Lobo. I did not accuse him of anything, but pieman made a defamatory statement about me, which I feel is unacceptable. If pieman is not Lobo, then someone is pretending to be Lobo. frankly that would be a welcome realization because I did not think the Lobo I have known would make those types of comments, comments with the sole purpose of shutting someone down. and I said that in my post.

if it is him, he obviously can't stand me, which is too bad. for the record, one of the so called informants is a pseudo admin and was just being helpful. especially since the comment pieman made was unprovoked.

I have no personal grudges against anyone.

I hardly think what was said was defamatory, in the whole spectrum of opinion about the emotional posts you have been making there are bound to be those who think you have lost credibility, just as there are those who will be contacting you agreeing with you, and just as there will be those who will have formed differing opinions over the way you've handled yourself here.



Microbius

« Reply #62 on: February 20, 2009, 11:08 »
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This thread came OFF TOPIC


Finally! The * have been mentioned. This forum isn't immune to Godwin's Law after all.  ;D


You always have the coolest links!  :D

yecatsdoherty

« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2009, 11:24 »
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thesentinel: I don't really want to keep rehashing this, I have responded as well as I can to questions. and as I said in other posts, the comment really upset me.

if anyone else wishes to talk about this. I think sitemail or email would be more appropriate. at this point, I just want to concentrate on my images and my latest novel.


« Last Edit: February 20, 2009, 11:44 by yecatsdoherty »

« Reply #64 on: February 21, 2009, 03:34 »
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thesentinel: I don't really want to keep rehashing this, I have responded as well as I can to questions. and as I said in other posts, the comment really upset me.

if anyone else wishes to talk about this. I think sitemail or email would be more appropriate. at this point, I just want to concentrate on my images and my latest novel.


Well I guess that's similar to an admin locking a thread then. ;)
Can also you not see that when you post "I have chosen not to participate in any IS forums from now on." one day and then are posting there again within two days does reduce your credibility somewhat.

Whilst you have by no means been the first to have experienced significant swings over the years I think as a 'frequent flyer' poster and an initial degree of light-heartedness you had a gained a great deal of sympathy which you then started losing with increasingly emotional, for want of a better word, outbursts.

I hope you do find yourself in a 'better place' soon as when you're there you're a fun person to have around.


yecatsdoherty

« Reply #65 on: February 21, 2009, 13:14 »
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abzee - pls don't try to pull me into discussions. when I said I would not participate in the iStock forums, it was not a black and white statement. children make black and white statements. I'm certainly not going to post anything that will get me in hot water anymore, and I'm certainly not participating in the typical istock browning nose threads where everyone gushes over one of the admins, or engages in blatant ego massage. in fact I am throughly embarrassed that when I first started on iStock I did engage in these threads in an effort to 'join' the community.

if you really know me on iStock, you would know that before about three weeks ago, I particpated heavily in all areas of the IS forum. so relatively speaking, I am absent enough now that people are emailing me to find out where I went. credibility is subjective. I would be more concerned if I lost credibility over some issue that I am deeply committed to....but if I have lost credibility because I posted in defense of a colleague after saying I wouldn't post again...I don't really care. it is anyone's prerogative to think what they want about me or anyone else.

as for shutting down the discussion. this thread is not about me, it is about the new UI. if you want to start another thread where we talk about this stuff, by all means. I will certainly participate.

and I would like to add -- I'm sorry if you want fun Stacey back. I'm still here, but the forum experience lately for me has been horrible. I think you are being very biased, frankly. if you knew how many people have had similar experiences to mine in dealing with istock 'officials' and feeling almost harrassed, perhaps you would feel differently. besides, I'm Irish....harnessed emotion is not one of my genetic fortes. I have been emotional, but I have not written any so called outbursts.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2009, 13:22 by yecatsdoherty »

« Reply #66 on: February 21, 2009, 15:47 »
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abzee - pls don't try to pull me into discussions. when I said I would not participate in the iStock forums, it was not a black and white statement. children make black and white statements.


Sounded pretty black and white to me:
"I have chosen not to participate in any IS forums from now on. I just want to upload, sell my work and be left alone."
http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/is-new-look-do-you-like-it/msg84832/#msg84832

yecatsdoherty

« Reply #67 on: February 21, 2009, 16:10 »
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Sean, I can react to your bullying or I can respond with an explanation. I'm going to try the latter because I've heard that despite how much you seem to go out of your way to intimidate people in the forums, you are a really nice guy in real life. if that is true, can you for a moment understand how it feels to have someone like you breathing down the neck of someone like me in a thread? if your question is meant to discredit me, or to point out that I have discredited myself somehow, then there is really nothing I can say. you can think what you want of course.

in answer to your sarcasm: I made a point of saying I won't be participating in iStock forums because I was getting a lot of sitemails asking me where I had gone. people wondered if I had been banned. so I posted that note to explain that I was CHOOSING not to participate anymore because of the flack I have been receiving. I didn't make that statement as a tantrum or an ultimatum. I'm not fooling myself into thinking that anyone at IS cares if I participate in the forums or not.

I made that statement only to let people know my relative silence was a decision. I am not sitting here thinking of ways to look witty or give ultimatums to istock. I'm not threatening to remove exclusivity, I'm not threatening to stay out of forums, because frankly they probably already wish I would. I AM staying out of the forums. I did respond in two threads in the last week, one of which included a friend of mine and was total fluff....the other of which included a colleague who was being spoken to rudely after he expressed concern about his dwindling income. I then also included a note about my sales. why did I do that? I don't know, because I felt like it. is it okay if I still read the forums? I would like to know when 2.0 is going to come out like everyone else.

Sean, why do you care about anything that I do anyways? I'm nothing to you, so why don't you just leave me be? I don't believe I have ever done anything to you, in fact I have always admired your work and your presence on iStock and I have always mentioned my admiration of your work very publicly. but, I don't care for the way you treat people in the forums. that's it and that's all.

« Reply #68 on: February 21, 2009, 16:21 »
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I'm not "bullying".  I'm just pointing out why "thesentinel" was under the impression you weren't going to post anymore.

Don't post on forums if you don't want people to respond to you, in a way you like or otherwise.  You seem to take things very personally, when people are just responding to what you have posted (witness the suggestion exclusivity may not be for you).

yecatsdoherty

« Reply #69 on: February 21, 2009, 17:13 »
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I think disregarding someone's concerns as "taking things personally" is a really overused and predictable tactic on iStock. obviously you take things personally, or you wouldn't chime in as frequently as you do. taking things personally shows that you care, that you are a principled person and that you are committed to your work. I'd say you are all those things. so am I.

I have been on the site for just over two years. never before in all the threads I have participated in, have I received any pressure or warnings or what I would call bullying. and I have disagreed with LOTS of people on lots of subjects, fairly, I hope kindly, at times sarcastically but to my knowledge never offensively.

only once I got into the best match stuff and started asking for information from above did this start happening. the reason for my frustration is not a personality instability as you are implying....the reason for my frustration is genuine concern regarding my income level and the future possibility of sudden drops.

income is personal, but regardless, I have not taken things to a personal level. I try to keep every post focused on the issues I am most concerned with; the nature of best match changes and the nature of communication from above at iStock. despite the rude, sarcastic and personal cracks that have been made at me, including your I Hate Stacey Slider comment, which coming from you was a real knock for me. cracks like that are meant to do one thing only, make someone look like an ass. you're a legend around there, you should have more respect for the influence and effect you have on people with your comments.

as for Rob's exclusivity comment: to suggest that someone who is worried about their sudden fall in income is not able to handle exclusivity, is insulting. I have earned my exclusivity, proudly. Rob's suggestion removes all responsibility from iStock for keeping their hard working contributors in the dark. I believe the truth is somewhere in the middle. I am OVERLY concerned at this point, absolutely!.....and they are underestimating how poorly they are communicating changes and how much unnecessary tension their business attitude is causing.

my reaction wasn't personal, I really disliked the timing of Rob's comment and I still do. I am precisely the type of contributor they should want to be exclusive. I have worked really hard, I'll be hitting gold after two years and hopefully I will be a good earner at IS at some point. why discourage my exclusivity, publicly no less? especially when they have put forth such an effort to lure new exclusives? what does that say to people?


vonkara

« Reply #70 on: February 21, 2009, 18:17 »
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I really like the new Istock look

« Reply #71 on: February 21, 2009, 19:33 »
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Since when does being emotional/passionate about something = lacking credibility?

« Reply #72 on: February 21, 2009, 23:30 »
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Since when does being emotional/passionate about something = lacking credibility?


A hypothetical situation might be when you say you are going to do/not-do something (like participate in the IS forum for example) and then continue to do the opposite __ several times over whilst blaming everyone else for your actions.

« Reply #73 on: February 22, 2009, 01:42 »
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I really like the new Istock look too.

yecatsdoherty

« Reply #74 on: February 22, 2009, 02:03 »
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Since when does being emotional/passionate about something = lacking credibility?


A hypothetical situation might be when you say you are going to do/not-do something (like participate in the IS forum for example) and then continue to do the opposite __ several times over whilst blaming everyone else for your actions.




sigh - whatever. honestly, what else can I say? I didn't blame anyone for anything. I'm having questions fired at me, and then when I finally address the examples someone has thrown at me, I am accused of blaming other people.

gostwyck and anyone else who seems to be taking pleasure in this, just leave it, please. this isn't about winning some stupid forum war for me. I'm trying to answer questions in order to clarify things and respond to accusations that are completely skewed - and then a whole new epidemic of sarcasm breaks out.  if you're trying to make me feel even crumbier, don't bother. I'm already there.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2009, 02:27 by yecatsdoherty »


 

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