Author Topic: IS Newsletter - A collection of excuses (Read 24208 times)

luissantos84 · « **Reply #100 on:** August 31, 2013, 21:22 »

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yor best example is Fotovoyager? He's still exclusive, what does that mean?

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 31, 2013, 20:00
having the best content doesn't mean you will succeed so saying that the indies/exclusives doing poorly is their own fault and iStock has no guilty is far from right
looks to me like even with a downtrend that is so horrendous he still thinks istock is the place to be. Understand my point now?

I have always understood your point, like all other doing nicely at iStock, that said doesn't mean we independents should be happy and never complain about pricing/collections/royalties/search placement and so on

yep I wonder how aeonf is doing... maybe as anonymous now here

i am curious--- who is it exactly that has forced you to be with IS? who is it exactly that forces you to remain with IS? why would you stick with such an unsatisfactory agency and constantly be angry by their actions?

There are many other agencies out there, why would you not join them and forget IS all together? i don't get it at all. there are literally hundreds of agencies, microstock and macrostock, RF and RM. why are you beating yourself up and sticking with the one agency that really seems to annoy you.

what a way to live man, always pissed off.

is that you God? don't you worry about my way of living, if you want I can give you my paypal address

where have you seen/read that I am angry and pissed off with iStock? actually I have more and better things to spend my time, I believe you are the one starting the drivel and speculation here, that said and to finish this "conversation" I am still an iStock contributor so I can say/express what I wish/feel

you are such a kind and relaxed person that Yuri can have portfolios outside iStock, yep it doesn't matter

Shelma1 · « **Reply #101 on:** September 01, 2013, 01:11 »

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In addition to hiring new IT staff, they clearly need to hire a professional to write their newsletters (but maybe this one is so bad because they're losing money and had to fire the person who used to write them?).
RogerMexico (Andrew) who used to write the newsletters has left, and I believe Lobo writes them now, as he is the Contributor Communications Manager sic.

That would explain it. They've piled additional responsibilities on Lobo, so he just cuts and pastes his responses from the forums. Because he doesn't know how to write a newsletter (clearly).

In that case they should send a newsletter saying there will be no more newsletters and directing people to the forums. Because that newsletter just screamed of unprofessionalism.

The newsletter does not scream of unprofessionalism. That's a complete over reaction. It's just an update of stuff which people might be interested to know since the last newsletter. Remember that most people probably do not have time for the ...

It absolutely screams of unprofessionalism. It's poorly written and obtuse. And since most people do not have time for the forums, they probably won't understand a lot of the references in the newsletter.

Going beyond the poor quality of the writing, there is nothing in this newsletter to rally the troops in a time when many contributors are experiencing a drop in sales and uncertainty about the future of iStock. And as others have pointed out, there seems to be no clear plan in place for the future of the company. No mention of making the site faster. No plans to make uploading easier.

It's haphazard and lacks focus. Much like the company it comes from.

bunhill · « **Reply #102 on:** September 01, 2013, 03:23 »

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Ron · « **Reply #103 on:** September 01, 2013, 03:25 »

Quote from: cobalt on August 31, 2013, 19:13

Good! Then go and light up the istock forums! Make them a place where people enjoy spending their time and encourage creativity!

How about some real life community building and interaction?? Actually do something truly positive and inspiring for istock on their own site??

Or is that too much real hard work??

So much easier to whine about that msg doesn´t love you...

Did it ever occur to you that the impression a company gives here is the direct result of their actions?

Good work = good reputation

....

They cant because they are anonymous. LOL. They are so positive about Istock that they need to be anonymous. Possibly because then no one can verify their hallelujah claims about Istock and Getty.

tickstock · « **Reply #104 on:** September 01, 2013, 09:33 »

ShadySue · « **Reply #105 on:** September 01, 2013, 15:22 »

Quote from: tickstock on August 31, 2013, 20:27

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 31, 2013, 20:25
Quote from: tickstock on August 31, 2013, 20:22
yor best example is Fotovoyager? He's still exclusive, what does that mean?

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 31, 2013, 20:00
having the best content doesn't mean you will succeed so saying that the indies/exclusives doing poorly is their own fault and iStock has no guilty is far from right
looks to me like even with a downtrend that is so horrendous he still thinks istock is the place to be. Understand my point now?

Not speaking for him in particular, I don't know him or his situation, but it is possible that someone could mark time as an exclusive there while pursuing other, non-RF avenues.

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a better example might be some of the long time exclusives that left. Too bad they haven't had much to say. I'm thinking of stacey newman and aeonf.

Yes, I'd particularly like to hear from aeonf. He was always extremely cokka about iStock, didn't believe in the 'ceiling', but left extremely quickly when his figures started to go downhill and IIRC only posted once since. I would be interested to hear from him, even if he was the 'sleeping partner'.

shudderstok · « **Reply #106 on:** September 01, 2013, 17:50 »

Quote from: Ron on September 01, 2013, 03:25

Quote from: cobalt on August 31, 2013, 19:13
Good! Then go and light up the istock forums! Make them a place where people enjoy spending their time and encourage creativity!

How about some real life community building and interaction?? Actually do something truly positive and inspiring for istock on their own site??

Or is that too much real hard work??

So much easier to whine about that msg doesn´t love you...

Did it ever occur to you that the impression a company gives here is the direct result of their actions?

Good work = good reputation

....
They cant because they are anonymous. LOL. They are so positive about Istock that they need to be anonymous. Possibly because then no one can verify their hallelujah claims about Istock and Getty.

ok, once we meet up and i supply all the necessary documents to verify and/or confirm my claims, and you finish your forensic audit, what will you be doing with this information? Will you be spreading the new found facts among your peers on msg or will this be kept in total confidentiality? i would prefer that you sign a confidentiality agreement as i do choose to remain anonymous. are you willing to sign a disclaimer and/or a waiver of liability in protecting me from your possible misuse of this verified information? how many years of proof will you need to verify your suspicions of my claims? 1-3-5 years worth of royalties, will this suffice? how about signing a conflict of interest agreement for an embargo period of 5 years?

cobalt · « **Reply #107 on:** September 01, 2013, 18:15 »

Ron, you are wasting your time. They just don´t get this "online community thing" or why in international business networks people build trust by knowing each other in real life. Which is why SS and the other agencies are having such an easy time picking up artists. Much too easy in my opinion. They could use more competition.

It is obvious they have absolutely no plans to rebuild the istock community spirit, because you would see progress on the istock forums themselves by now. After all that place is supposed to be the preferred habitat of the "positive thinking, happy istock exclusive".

Nothing anyone writes or says on msg can improve the istock exclusive experience. All of that happens on istock only.

Anyway, Yuri and his huge team can now replace them all and supply whatever content they will ever need in the next 100 years.

tickstock · « **Reply #108 on:** September 01, 2013, 18:23 »

cobalt · « **Reply #109 on:** September 01, 2013, 18:39 »

The other sites don´t have to do anything. istock is doing it all for them.

istock used to have a really fantastic community spirit. Very creative, excellent teamwork, open and welcoming. Those were also the times the company was flourishing and sales were growing.

I really don´t understand what it is you are looking for on msg. You enjoy being exclusive to istock, which is fine. Nothing wrong with that.

But msg hasn´t really changed much in all the years I´ve been here. So again, I don´t understand what is upsetting you so much about it now that you joined beginning of the year and seem to be so active here in all things istock.

It is your time of course, if you feel you are doing something you enjoy, your call.

But msg used to have many exclusives here who enjoyed presenting the company. And they were not anonymous.

So where did they all go?

tickstock · « **Reply #110 on:** September 01, 2013, 18:44 »

cobalt · « **Reply #111 on:** September 01, 2013, 18:52 »

The other forums are not worse than istock. Where did you get that impression???

And if you believe forums have no influence on sales or attracting content providers - what are you doing here?

tickstock · « **Reply #112 on:** September 01, 2013, 19:06 »

luissantos84 · « **Reply #113 on:** September 01, 2013, 19:16 »

Quote from: tickstock on September 01, 2013, 19:06

Which forum is better than istock? Bigstock, 123rf, crestock, veer, fotolia, dreamstime? I can see you like shutterstock's forum, it must have changed a lot because it used to be people posting pictures of their * dog in every thread or someone trying to get you to pay for a stock photo lesson.

I'm here to get updates from all the sites, hear informed opinions, see what the widrr trends are ect... I'm not here to attract contribors nor was I brought here to become one. You're kidding yourself if you think you get more sales from the forum. Unless you take Dan up on his limited time offer.

if it was another person saying that I would have given a heart

tickstock · « **Reply #114 on:** September 01, 2013, 19:21 »

luissantos84 · « **Reply #115 on:** September 01, 2013, 19:25 »

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Which forum is better than istock? Bigstock, 123rf, crestock, veer, fotolia, dreamstime? I can see you like shutterstock's forum, it must have changed a lot because it used to be people posting pictures of their * dog in every thread or someone trying to get you to pay for a stock photo lesson.

I'm here to get updates from all the sites, hear informed opinions, see what the widrr trends are ect... I'm not here to attract contribors nor was I brought here to become one. You're kidding yourself if you think you get more sales from the forum. Unless you take Dan up on his limited time offer.

if it was another person saying that I would have given a heart
I knew you were here giving me all those negatives. It's all good! check out my dog and gorilla suit.

no no no, still haven't minus you today, for real!

tickstock · « **Reply #116 on:** September 01, 2013, 19:31 »

cobalt · « **Reply #117 on:** September 01, 2013, 19:33 »

Well tickstock then all is fine. I probably misread your posts, I had the impression you didn´t really find msg informative or useful and yet seem to spend a lot of time here.

The stocksy community is great. It has a lot of the creative spirit that used to make istock such a fun combination of work and inspiration.

I wouldn´t mind if they had a public forum area as well, but you can join their facebook page or the google networks I think these are open to anyone. It is still a very small place, and yet I have made more money there with 37 images than with over 400 on other sites. I look forward to see it develop and grow.

It is good there are so many agencies to choose from. If you like warm fuzzy community networks, stocksy is definitely a great place to be. If intense networking is not what you like there are enough other agencies to work with.

And if you are indie you can work with them all

luissantos84 · « **Reply #118 on:** September 01, 2013, 19:38 »

Quote from: tickstock on September 01, 2013, 19:31

my bad then. I always count on one from you and one from ron. Maybe times they are a changin. I really couldn't care less about the negatives. I think the hearts and negs make the site less professional and if you disagree say why. I even got one for saying I had a bme in the July earnings thread.

we judge very fast in this forum, unfortunately in life too , an opinion/disagreement at a topic doesn't show what we are and it shouldn't go along other topics bringing negatives or hearts due to "friendships"

wasn't me on the July earnings as well

cobalt · « **Reply #119 on:** September 01, 2013, 19:58 »

And congrats on the 1160 posts you have worked up since joining end of January 2013. It really is an amazing achievement. I have been posting here since 2007 and only have 1005.

Your attention to msg is really very impressive.

tickstock · « **Reply #120 on:** September 01, 2013, 19:59 »

cobalt · « **Reply #121 on:** September 01, 2013, 20:03 »

If that is the way you feel about it, keep informing people of what you think is right. Like I said, i don´t quite understand your level of activity if your focus is istock and and you are happy with your exclusivity. But it is your time.

I just really don´t see any changes on msg. Neither more nor less information than before. And the quality hasn´t gone up or down either.

tickstock · « **Reply #122 on:** September 01, 2013, 20:06 »

cobalt · « **Reply #123 on:** September 01, 2013, 20:16 »

I really don´t know what time you are referring too. Honestly, the only people I miss are the non anonymous istock exclusives. Their participation here has died down parallel to the lack of activity on istock. Many have gone underground into various facebook networks. And for obvious reasons...

Everyone else seems to still be here,no?

msg has always had a large number of newbies, it is the biggest point of focus on the net if you are starting out.

But all the groups are interlinked and news spreads pretty fast. Googlenetworks has a huge group of full time stock artists as well.

And the Berlin expo is supposed to be well booked already and I would think anyone who is really interested in the industry and has the time to come will probably be there. The last event was fantastic.

And most of the people there do stock full time.

tickstock · « **Reply #124 on:** September 01, 2013, 20:28 »

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