Quote from: shudderstok on August 31, 2013, 07:43

Not sure why, but this forum reminds me so much of a typical weekend armchair sports fan that is physically out of shape always screaming what the quarterback should do or should have done while he sits back in his lazyboy recliner and snacks away on beer and nacho chips.

talking about yourself?

no, i am talking about the regular team who comes in here and complains to no end about IS. If that is you, then perhaps it was you i was talking about, and if you are not a complainer, then it was not you.

i find the amount of complaining on these forums about IS and GI to be depressing and non productive.

then if you say anything good about IS or GI you get shot down.

just reminds me of armchair sports fans telling the team how they should play or should have played the game.

it this really so difficult to understand?

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Quote from: shudderstok on August 31, 2013, 07:43

Not sure why, but this forum reminds me so much of a typical weekend armchair sports fan that is physically out of shape always screaming what the quarterback should do or should have done while he sits back in his lazyboy recliner and snacks away on beer and nacho chips.

Agree 100%

if you wouldn't I would be surprised considering your over 3k files uploaded this year

I know it's an expression.  I was saying it applies to all newsletters why would expect istocks to be different.  There also was talk about royalties and images staying in collections longer than some expected.

so what is your opinion/analysis regarding the delay of independent content into S+?

Couldn't live without?   That's a pretty high standard, food, water, shelter and something from a newsletter?  Is there any newsletter you've seen that had information you couldn't live without?  And what professional microstocker is getting 15%?

you beat me to 'short and sweet'...

i never really read newsletters as they all skim the surface of what is really going on, it's more a pr tool than anything.

IS treats me very well as it does many photographers, as does GI. If it did not work out for you sorry to hear it but please quit your complaining/whining/moaning and up your game and drop your sense of entitlement. IS and GI owe you nothing.

Buyers will decide on your success. They have choices of what images to buy, and if yours are not being purchased, the clue is in who determines this, the buyer - not the agency. You could say this of any agency. If your work is second rate and/or in some cases not really stock worthy, then buyers will determine this, not the agency.

personally, i have no troubles selling my work on IS or GI, regardless of whether their newsletter is skimming the surface and providing nothing but drivel. it's a newsletter for crying out loud not an annual report.

Quote from: tickstock on August 31, 2013, 19:05

Couldn't live without?   That's a pretty high standard, food, water, shelter and something from a newsletter?  Is there any newsletter you've seen that had information you couldn't live without?  And what professional microstocker is getting 15%?

you beat me to 'short and sweet'...

i never really read newsletters as they all skim the surface of what is really going on, it's more a pr tool than anything.

IS treats me very well as it does many photographers, as does GI. If it did not work out for you sorry to hear it but please quit your complaining/whining/moaning and up your game and drop your sense of entitlement. IS and GI owe you nothing.

Buyers will decide on your success. They have choices of what images to buy, and if yours are not being purchased, the clue is in who determines this, the buyer - not the agency. You could say this of any agency. If your work is second rate and/or in some cases not really stock worthy, then buyers will determine this, not the agency.

personally, i have no troubles selling my work on IS or GI, regardless of whether their newsletter is skimming the surface and providing nothing but drivel. it's a newsletter for crying out loud not an annual report.

what you said ain't entirely correct, do you mean there is no favoritism, best match changes, search engine tweaks, different algorithms and other that can't change buyer search results?

the "perfect" file is the one sold every time for the reason its the best one? sorry but no and you know that doesn't happen

The counter to that argument is Yuri.  As a nonexclusive he was one of the top if not the top seller.

sure but what do we know? there might be a ton things behind every contributor like special deals no? how can Yuri still have files at DT?

having the best content doesn't mean you will succeed so saying that the indies/exclusives doing poorly is their own fault and iStock has no guilty is far from right

of course that having top quality pictures will help but its not 100% guarantee, the best example I always remember is William (fotovoyager) case with serious downtrend along the latest years but perhaps in this specific case maybe its just a "downtrend" in terms of buyers looking for travel photography

Quote from: shudderstok on August 31, 2013, 19:28

Quote from: tickstock on August 31, 2013, 19:05

Couldn't live without?   That's a pretty high standard, food, water, shelter and something from a newsletter?  Is there any newsletter you've seen that had information you couldn't live without?  And what professional microstocker is getting 15%?

you beat me to 'short and sweet'...

i never really read newsletters as they all skim the surface of what is really going on, it's more a pr tool than anything.

IS treats me very well as it does many photographers, as does GI. If it did not work out for you sorry to hear it but please quit your complaining/whining/moaning and up your game and drop your sense of entitlement. IS and GI owe you nothing.

Buyers will decide on your success. They have choices of what images to buy, and if yours are not being purchased, the clue is in who determines this, the buyer - not the agency. You could say this of any agency. If your work is second rate and/or in some cases not really stock worthy, then buyers will determine this, not the agency.

personally, i have no troubles selling my work on IS or GI, regardless of whether their newsletter is skimming the surface and providing nothing but drivel. it's a newsletter for crying out loud not an annual report.

what you said ain't entirely correct, do you mean there is no favoritism, best match changes, search engine tweaks, different algorithms and other that can't change buyer search results?

the "perfect" file is the one sold every time for the reason its the best one? sorry but no and you know that doesn't happen

how long have you been a professional stock photographer?

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Quote from: shudderstok on August 31, 2013, 20:05

Quote from: luissantos84 on August 31, 2013, 19:38

Quote from: shudderstok on August 31, 2013, 19:28

Quote from: tickstock on August 31, 2013, 19:05

Couldn't live without?   That's a pretty high standard, food, water, shelter and something from a newsletter?  Is there any newsletter you've seen that had information you couldn't live without?  And what professional microstocker is getting 15%?

you beat me to 'short and sweet'...

i never really read newsletters as they all skim the surface of what is really going on, it's more a pr tool than anything.

IS treats me very well as it does many photographers, as does GI. If it did not work out for you sorry to hear it but please quit your complaining/whining/moaning and up your game and drop your sense of entitlement. IS and GI owe you nothing.

Buyers will decide on your success. They have choices of what images to buy, and if yours are not being purchased, the clue is in who determines this, the buyer - not the agency. You could say this of any agency. If your work is second rate and/or in some cases not really stock worthy, then buyers will determine this, not the agency.

personally, i have no troubles selling my work on IS or GI, regardless of whether their newsletter is skimming the surface and providing nothing but drivel. it's a newsletter for crying out loud not an annual report.

what you said ain't entirely correct, do you mean there is no favoritism, best match changes, search engine tweaks, different algorithms and other that can't change buyer search results?

the "perfect" file is the one sold every time for the reason its the best one? sorry but no and you know that doesn't happen

how long have you been a professional stock photographer?

I know where you heading and I will remind you that this is a microstock forum, that said I pay most of my bills with microstock but please explain me why are you changing the subject? short of answers?

why do you need to remind me the is a microstock forum? and what makes you think i was changing the subject? and where was i heading?

i know i should never answer questions with questions, but you seem to have this uncanny ability to know where everything is going, and all this factual speculative information about how IS works...  favoritism, best match changes, search engine tweaks, different algorithms... etc. how do you know this speculative factual information?

please please please show us the tangible evidence you have to support this your facts drivel. otherwise it is purely drivel and speculation. i'd love to have a conversation with you if the conversation had merit and tangible evidence to support your facts. but having a conversation that is based on speculation is not an easy one to be constructive cause you can change everything i say into something else, whereas if we just stuck to the facts you would have no wiggle room to twist it up in any manner you see fit for your own justified needs, which is more or less to knock IS and/or GI in any way possible.

truth be told my friend, the buyers make the final call, on any site.