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molka

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« Reply #1175 on: October 09, 2010, 15:36 »
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The only thing I'v got to do with macrostock is buying it for layouts. 

Well, if that's true, then I wonder why you're even here. And if macrostock is so superior, I'm sure your clients are happy to pay up for it, given your great creative sensibilities. If i had to guess, however, i would say that you're more like a deer in the headlights- not sure what is happening. But you've got to be angry at someone, so here you are. So let's see- "The only thing I'v got to do with macrostock is buying it for layouts"- brings up the question- what have you got to do with microstock? Except trolling, of course.


" you're more like a deer in the headlights- not sure what is happening."

that's a decent description of this thread about istock isn't it? Actually I'v been saying a long time ago to people involved with istock and the like: 'just wait untill they tank up on images and market position, they'll start really skinning you'. Nobody beleived me. Now that I took a look inside I realized that's far from the truth - actually they have been treating cintributors like second class citizens way before the current mess, It's just that the poeple I talked to involved in it played fanboys, but I'm not bad at reading people, it was very apparent reading between the lines things weren't that nice at all.

"what have you got to do with microstock?"

I bought rather large amounts of that too, one of the agencies I worked for, was buying thousands of credits there, so that's where I had to go for images when working for them, unless marketing poeple at the clients started searching for images (they like to do that nowadays) they liked, for some reason their preference seemed to be shutterstock. Oh man I'v browsed pages and pages and pages, getting thru thuosands and thousands and thousands of images to find something that might at least to some extent worked with the concept at hand, and of course always in rush. It was so bad, I had to actually train myself to only spend a certain amount of time looking at each thumb. That's something most of you might not comprehend, but I got so tired with all that, I said to myself that I never-ever want to go around browsing that, unless someone is paying for it, because I'm gonna have nightmares of falling into an endless void with floating thumbnails : ) and I'm truly sorry but still find it hard to get myself to look at people's ports that argue around here too, tho I know this and that nick is a succesful contributor, etc.

But more and more of my time went to photography as hobby, which got me talking to people doing micro, so I wanted to have peek inside this. It's like a little subculture, and people involved in it seemed to be so secretive, only giving vague hints of information, that it was almost fishy. And of yourse the kind of stuff that floats around, like for examle "istock's standards are os darconian, they reject most of the stuff", etc, didn't tell me much, becouse people saying things like that were usually total amateurs at visual 'arts' and even more at PS. I realized the obviuos : ) that getting involved is the only way to see what this whole thing really is.. So I started contributing to several places to have a peek inside. It's not nice. You poeple are really badly treated, even besides the financial things, just terribly disrespectfully, and many of you cheer for it (???). This is beyond me. If I would ever have been handled like that at the places I worked, I would have thorn heads off and put them up on a spike raised really high for everyone to see. Thats it basically. Satisfied? : )

Yeah. And really tired of reading these rants.

the only rant here is 47 pages of microshooter's : )


vonkara

« Reply #1176 on: October 09, 2010, 16:54 »
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This is what Trolls making huge paragraphs look like according to the police


Our first suspect is macrosaur... What you guys think about. Is it corresponding ?


rubyroo

« Reply #1177 on: October 09, 2010, 16:59 »
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I was thinking Macrosaur too...

I was also thinking that maybe MSG should have a separate forum called 'Nyer nyer, told you so', where any traditional stockers who feel they need some kind of retribution against microstockers could hang out to their heart's content and spew their venom.

I can't even tell any more if there's any new news on iStock - because I have to keep skimming posts to get past all the agro.

« Reply #1178 on: October 09, 2010, 17:06 »
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Yeah, and it's easy to come back and gloat when something changes for a competitor, troll.  The fact is that the microstock photographers beat the traditional ( read : oldtimers with connections and legacy images paid for by clients) at their own game by creating fresh, new and creative work. Digital imaging and the internet ran a bulldozer through your little playground and you don't like it. It's called creative destruction, and it's happened throughout history. What you were part of was a guild, and the microstock photographers weren't allowed in. Rather than just give up, they went around your tired old distribution model and created a new one, and now you're on the outside looking in. Any changes  at istock will be dealt with, adapted to and taken advantage of, with the same creative spirit that made this whole community what it is. The sad part for you is that you just want to have someone to blame. Do you really think that if microstock hadn't come along, your old world would be intact? Now, that's naive!

Excellent summation. I agree, digital imaging and the internet have SO many advantages, but they created huge changes, for a lot of industries.

The only thing to do is deal with it and use it to your advantage, instead of blaming and griping.

Change isn't bad.  People who don't want to change deserve to be left behind. 

These macrostock people are starting to sound a lot like the Catholic Church. Hmmm

molka

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« Reply #1179 on: October 09, 2010, 17:23 »
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wow, this is even better than the old xsreality forums with pent up frustrated pimplefaced teens all raging from too much and duke nukem and coke-sugar  : )

jbarber873

« Reply #1180 on: October 09, 2010, 17:32 »
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wow, this is even better than the old xsreality forums with pent up frustrated pimplefaced teens all raging from too much and duke nukem and coke-sugar  : )

duke nukem=windows 3.0=traditional stock=1993=macrosaur=molka

math in everyday life

lisafx

« Reply #1181 on: October 09, 2010, 17:39 »
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I can't even tell any more if there's any new news on iStock - because I have to keep skimming posts to get past all the agro.

+1

molka

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« Reply #1182 on: October 09, 2010, 17:44 »
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wow, this is even better than the old xsreality forums with pent up frustrated pimplefaced teens all raging from too much and duke nukem and coke-sugar  : )

duke nukem=windows 3.0=traditional stock=1993=macrosaur=molka

math in everyday life

Sherlock Holmes, eat yout heart out. That was pure genius : D show that equation to nasa, they'll hire you instantly

« Reply #1183 on: October 09, 2010, 17:48 »
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Eh, blah, blah, somethin' somethin', etc... Yadda Yadda... Whatever....  End quote...

lisafx

« Reply #1184 on: October 09, 2010, 17:59 »
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Eh, blah, blah, somethin' somethin', etc... Yadda Yadda... Whatever....  End quote...

Brilliant summation!!  ;D

« Reply #1185 on: October 09, 2010, 18:06 »
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I don't think molka is macrosaur. This is just another newbie "know-it-all" who's spewing a lot bullsh**

vonkara

« Reply #1186 on: October 09, 2010, 18:41 »
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Yadda Yadda... Whatever....  End quote...

Exactly the feeling I have about MSG lately. I can't even find inspiration to get my 2000th post

« Reply #1187 on: October 09, 2010, 21:49 »
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I am upset at the changes at Istock and even more upset my macro sales aren't doing better. Please tell me how to fix this Molka. Maybe I should start shooting large format film again. Where do you sell? Are you the Molka at Can Stock or did just use that name?

molka

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« Reply #1188 on: October 10, 2010, 03:15 »
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I am upset at the changes at Istock and even more upset my macro sales aren't doing better. Please tell me how to fix this Molka. Maybe I should start shooting large format film again. Where do you sell? Are you the Molka at Can Stock or did just use that name?

I sell on Wall Street under the name getty. are you the rally guy?

« Reply #1189 on: October 10, 2010, 03:19 »
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from what I gather you don't sell much. No not the rally guy, the photographer.

molka

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« Reply #1190 on: October 10, 2010, 03:25 »
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from what I gather you don't sell much. No not the rally guy, the photographer.

Oh so your just another nobody who can't read but keeps bogging me. I like rally.

« Reply #1191 on: October 10, 2010, 03:28 »
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"bogging"? Ow well keep trying. Why don't you try to sell something? No talent troll. This is about microSTOCK not microBRAINS

rubyroo

« Reply #1192 on: October 10, 2010, 03:35 »
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Eh, blah, blah, somethin' somethin', etc... Yadda Yadda... Whatever....  End quote...

Thanks for summing up there Sean, I see I didn't miss much then...  ;)

molka

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« Reply #1193 on: October 10, 2010, 03:58 »
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"bogging"? Ow well keep trying. Why don't you try to sell something? No talent troll. This is about microSTOCK not microBRAINS

: ) Try reading, angry lil' boy

"This is about microSTOCK not microBRAINS"

well, khhmmm... hehe... This might just go around, but not the way you intended. Good stuff!

traveler1116

« Reply #1194 on: October 10, 2010, 04:09 »
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^Ignored by 20 people already, is that a record?  Including me, so no need to respond.

grp_photo

« Reply #1195 on: October 10, 2010, 04:27 »
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the only rant here is 47 pages of microshooter's : )
Well there is some truth in it.

jbarber873

« Reply #1196 on: October 10, 2010, 12:08 »
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the only rant here is 47 pages of microshooter's : )
Well there is some truth in it.

From what i can see this thread has been microstock contributors talking about the changes at istock. The fact that there are so many pages reflects the concerns and uncertainty at what is probably the biggest earner for many people here. This will most likely be seen as a turning point in the on going saga of how images are created and sold, so it merits discussion. The rant comes from some tired old troll who just wants to get even over some perceived injustice about his crumbling old world.
(Plus his spelling and grammar skills tell me that wherever this guy worked, he was not a player.)

« Reply #1197 on: October 10, 2010, 12:10 »
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^Ignored by 20 people already, is that a record?  Including me, so no need to respond.

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« Reply #1198 on: October 10, 2010, 12:16 »
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^Ignored by 20 people already, is that a record?  Including me, so no need to respond.
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« Reply #1199 on: October 10, 2010, 15:46 »
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I'm not gong to ignore him, I don't believe in ignoring. But... 20.5 posts per day!!! (only macrosaur and Old Hippie got to these heights)

20.5 posts per day! Time to change subject and begin discussing neurosis and obssession.


 

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