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CofkoCof

« on: October 16, 2008, 12:24 »
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You like to know your contributor position within istockphoto? Duncan1890, aldomurillo, jacomstephens and others already built some minisites.

Now here is our iStock Contributer Charts Mini Website:


http://www.istockcharts.de

All data is updated on a Daily Base (after iStock updates DNs) , you can see

- Total Downloads
- Downloads per Files in Portfolio
- Downloads per Day (Since the user registered)
(we assume the 1st of the month of user registration date as the date the user started to upload, so this might be not 100% accurate)
- Business Website of User
- Canister Level
- Number of Total Reviews
- Link to the Newest Files of the User
- Link to the Highest Rated Images of each User
- Link to the Most Downloaded Images of each User
- Date of Registration

And you can easly search for an User, Add a User or Scroll through the Position Pages.

A User Search jumps directly to the User (Highligted Orange)

When you add yourself, give it some time, data is not immediately fetched. You can also try to reload the Page if you don`t show up. Also the 'DN Trend of the last 30 Days' needs at least some days to fill up.

All data is individually sortable, so you can choose to sort each table.

You can sort Ascending or Descending and you can also confirgure your individual Columns.

This is the 0.9 Version. So check it out.

If you have any comments or suggestions let us know...

Cheers from Team Multimedia.de


Was wondering the other day if I like all those publicly available stats. I mean at SS nobody can check how much downloads you had, what's your trend, who are the top earners (well for some you know, not all though).
« Last Edit: October 16, 2008, 12:26 by CofkoCof »


RT


« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2008, 12:30 »
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I mean at SS nobody can check how much downloads you had, what's your trend, who are the top earners (well for some you know, not all though).

I would love SS to publish this information, there's one very outspoken contributor there who would do anything he could to not have this info published though!

CofkoCof

« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2008, 12:35 »
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I mean at SS nobody can check how much downloads you had, what's your trend, who are the top earners (well for some you know, not all though).

I would love SS to publish this information, there's one very outspoken contributor there who would do anything he could to not have this info published though!
Belive me there's more than just one :D

lisafx

« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2008, 13:32 »
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C'mon, why not publish all this info? 

Why not make it easy for the copiers to know who to target...?  ;)

« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2008, 13:35 »
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Was wondering the other day if I like all those publicly available stats.

Did you agree with yourself on something?
What's not to like about those public stats? (Other than the obvious that some self-appointed masters would find it a tad embarrassing...). People claiming to be targets for ripoffs are themselves getting inspiration from others. Theres not that much original material out there.. and if someone wants to copy others work, they'll get numbers elsewhere won't they.

I'd like to see public sale stats at SS too.

RT


« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2008, 14:11 »
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C'mon, why not publish all this info? 

Why not make it easy for the copiers to know who to target...?  ;)

I don't think it would make much of a difference, we all copy you anyway  :D

« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2008, 14:15 »
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Was wondering the other day if I like all those publicly available stats.

People claiming to be targets for ripoffs are themselves getting inspiration from others.
I'd like to see public sale stats at SS too.

That's not true. There are lots of people that strive to do orginal work, and some people that rips off, and never from non selling contributor/images. Always from good selling ones, down to the concept, the ligthing and even the keywords. I could provide scores of blatant examples, but, obviusly, I won't do it.
To say "everybody does" seems a first step to justify doing it oneself.

« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2008, 14:36 »
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Ive said before that I'd like download information to be kept private.  It's one of those "fun" things from the early days that needs to go away.

CofkoCof

« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2008, 15:09 »
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Did you agree with yourself on something?
What's not to like about those public stats? (Other than the obvious that some self-appointed masters would find it a tad embarrassing...). People claiming to be targets for ripoffs are themselves getting inspiration from others. Theres not that much original material out there.. and if someone wants to copy others work, they'll get numbers elsewhere won't they.

I'd like to see public sale stats at SS too.
Yeah. For me it's such a big deal if someone copies me, since my life doesn't depend on that money. But it's totally different for people who earn a living from stock. Those stats sometimes motivate me though. Seeing someone doing really well makes me wanna do my best and see how far I can make it.

I agree with you about originality. There are many who really do their best to make something new and they stand from the crowd. But soon 10 imitators arise and originality disappears. I remember the other day I found image that was very similar to one of mine. It came online 2 weeks after mine did. But I couldn't say if it was a copy. Maybe (or even probably) somebody else made it before me and we were both influenced by it.

« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2008, 17:14 »
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Ive said before that I'd like download information to be kept private.  It's one of those "fun" things from the early days that needs to go away.

i agree

« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2008, 17:16 »
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Quote from the official topic:
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You like to know your contributor position within istockphoto? Duncan1890, aldomurillo, jacomstephens and others already built some minisites.

Now here is our iStock Contributer Charts Mini Website:


http://www.istockcharts.de

All data is updated on a Daily Base (after iStock updates DNs) , you can see

- Total Downloads
- Downloads per Files in Portfolio
- Downloads per Day (Since the user registered)
(we assume the 1st of the month of user registration date as the date the user started to upload, so this might be not 100% accurate)
- Business Website of User
- Canister Level
- Number of Total Reviews
- Link to the Newest Files of the User
- Link to the Highest Rated Images of each User
- Link to the Most Downloaded Images of each User
- Date of Registration

And you can easly search for an User, Add a User or Scroll through the Position Pages.

A User Search jumps directly to the User (Highligted Orange)

When you add yourself, give it some time, data is not immediately fetched. You can also try to reload the Page if you don`t show up. Also the 'DN Trend of the last 30 Days' needs at least some days to fill up.

All data is individually sortable, so you can choose to sort each table.

You can sort Ascending or Descending and you can also confirgure your individual Columns.

This is the 0.9 Version. So check it out.

If you have any comments or suggestions let us know...

Cheers from Team Multimedia.de


Was wondering the other day if I like all those publicly available stats. I mean at SS nobody can check how much downloads you had, what's your trend, who are the top earners (well for some you know, not all though).



whats the point if not everyone is on it.  you might be number 500 on this but if it only shows 20% of the people, its not really relevant

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2008, 19:59 »
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Yeech. Some great information but also kind of disappointing. I don't know about you guys but assuming an average of $1 per download, with those downloads per day stats I'd need to be in the top ten to quit my day job.

Maybe when you're at that level average $/DL is way higher but I was really surprised to see the big drop from 5-6 when sorting DLs/day.

« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2008, 20:09 »
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Don't forget, that's over the lifetime of the contributor.  Like when you made 1-2 downloads a day 4 years ago.

« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2008, 22:39 »
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If you don't want to be copied, you are in the wrong business ...

« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2008, 23:30 »
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C'mon, why not publish all this info? 

Why not make it easy for the copiers to know who to target...?  ;)

I don't think it would make much of a difference, we all copy you anyway  :D

last time I looked at lisa's portfolio, my wife was next to me. look that guys a plumber / engineer / businessman / electrician etc etc. he can do anything! gee I married the wrong guy! yeah thanks...

« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2008, 07:37 »
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If you don't want to be copied, you are in the wrong business ...

Yes, but keep in mind that, although  with discretion and behind the scenes, there has been images deleted and contributors banned from sites for this motive.

« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2008, 09:34 »
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Hey! I'm ranked 3rd!!!!!! ....


on page 4.   ;) :D ;D

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2008, 21:02 »
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Don't forget, that's over the lifetime of the contributor.  Like when you made 1-2 downloads a day 4 years ago.

True, but I'd still guess that a tiny fraction of total contributors (40,000?) are actually living solely on IS income. Maybe less than 1%? If so, it is what it is, and I may need to adjust my goals a bit.

« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2008, 21:06 »
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I think I missed something. Why are most people, including me, not showing DL trends?

Yuri had in one day almost my total!   :o

Regards,
Adelaide
« Last Edit: October 17, 2008, 21:08 by madelaide »

CofkoCof

« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2008, 21:39 »
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Don't forget, that's over the lifetime of the contributor.  Like when you made 1-2 downloads a day 4 years ago.
True, but that's true for everyone even for the people with most downloads per day, so I don't really see what your aiming at.

« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2008, 06:06 »
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My point is, if you have been active for a long time, but didn't sell a lot in your early days, your number would be a lot lower than someone who comes steaming on right from the start, even if you both sell the currently same amount.  So that number is just your total time/total downloads, which is only indicitive of anything if you know the history of the person.

« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2008, 09:59 »
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The "Download Yesterday" column can be used instead now  ;)

This is a quite interesting tool and I don't see any problem with such tools as those numbers are public already: this is just a fastest way to get them.

We may however argue whether IS and other sites should keep download figures private.

« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2008, 11:05 »
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It would be interesting to show in this chart which contributor are exclusives and which are not.

We could then compare the trend graphs...
and feed many many more threads here about exclusive favoritism (or not)  ;)

Claude

« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2008, 07:25 »
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It would indeed be nice to see who is exclusive or not. I allready asked in the forum, but the designers of the didn't react on it. Here the forumposts:
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=78186&page=1


bittersweet

« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2008, 11:21 »
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Looks like it's in violation of the API Terms of Use. I don't see any reason why istock would allow an exception for something like this, especially with the Compare app is in existence already with their blessing.

I registered with istock almost two years before I became a contributor. Many other contributors were customers first. The "statistic" of downloads per day is just nonsensical. It's showing about a third of what an average day is in my case, and I'm sure more extremely wrong for other portfolios.

The bottom line is that a thief is a thief. If they are unethical and unscrupulous enough to target a portfolio to copy, they don't really need a chart. I don't think the mere existence of this is going to promote dishonesty in a person who has their own moral compass which prevents otherwise.

« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2008, 03:27 »
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They said in the forum that the're not using the API, just information of the WWW. So I don't think there is a violation.

If you see how fast the first 400 came into the list, then I assume they are well known at istock. So even without the list someone who wants to copy those top contributors can find them very easily.

RacePhoto

« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2008, 12:04 »
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That was fun! I spent about half an hour and came up with some entertaining numbers. (some are obvious, but just in case) Figures are from the online database.

Black Diamond = 10 (3 more near making it soon)
Diamond = 394
Gold = 636
Silver = 1666
Bronze = 2934 (under 250 DLs)
Base = 3246
Total = 8891

2706 Over 2500 DLs BRAVO! 30% of the contributors are Silver.

3787 Under 400 DLs

About 42% of the contributors haven't reached payout, which is lower than the often estimated percentage that "never reach payout". This may be because of IS higher standards for acceptance.

One user was funny, member since 2002, only 3 files, average 133 DL per file, or 399 total. I wonder what happens when he reaches $100?  ;D Some Silver members had under 100 files in their collection.

This one was also interesting and great work.
Andrey Prokhorov - Exclusive Designer Ranked #54
Files: 293
Downloads: 88235
Average 301 DLs per file

All of this is subject to human error, bad notes, and erroneous button pushing on my part. For entertainment only.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2008, 12:09 by RacePhoto »

CofkoCof

« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2008, 12:21 »
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Just an update: the author of the site offered to gray out the names of the people that don't wanna be on the list:
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To let you all know we are also working on an opt-out option for users who`d like to be "greyed out" from the chart-list. It will take approx. 1-2 days for us to have a solution on that. So everyone who do not want to appear on the list, --->this means that your username will not be displayed, every link to your website and portfolio etc. will be removed<---, please send us a sitemail, as it is for us the only possibility to check if you are the correct user who want to opt out.


RacePhoto

« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2008, 21:49 »
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Just an update: the author of the site offered to gray out the names of the people that don't wanna be on the list:
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To let you all know we are also working on an opt-out option for users who`d like to be "greyed out" from the chart-list. It will take approx. 1-2 days for us to have a solution on that. So everyone who do not want to appear on the list, --->this means that your username will not be displayed, every link to your website and portfolio etc. will be removed<---, please send us a sitemail, as it is for us the only possibility to check if you are the correct user who want to opt out.



What's the difference, we all know who the top ten are, and I praise them. By the time someone copies a shot, it's already sold out, or at least has a prime location in the search, so it's a waste of time.

As for my waste of time reading all the numbers, the names didn't matter anyway.  ;D Waiting for my latest upload to be reviewed, I have to keep my fat little fingers working.

I want my name blanked out to save being embarrassed. Oh wait, maybe some of the names are people who don't want to be recognized as MicroStock shooters. Maybe that's the game? Lets see, the guy gets 8000 emails saying, Opt me out. Is he going to be busy or what?  :D


 

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