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Title: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 09, 2014, 17:12
Hi,

My name is Ramin. I am a 3D artist. I was an exclusive contributor in iStockphoto (My member name was "RaminKh******" & "Ramin-3D"). 3 days ago I received an email from iStock:
________________________________________________________
Dear Ramin,

The administration team at iStock has revoked your forum privileges.  Comments from iStock Administrators (if any):

Closing account as per our email to you on October 7, 2014

If you would like to discuss this with client relations, please email [email protected].

Best Regards,
iStock.com
________________________________________________________

No reason, no explanation and no response to my emails. They did not say anything.
They removed the name of my country from their list. They sold my photos and videos and they have benefited more than 50 thousand dollars and now, they close my account without any explain.

I'm so sorry for this global business.

You can visit some of my removed images here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22Ramin-3D%22+contributor&biw=1297&bih=919&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=w91jVJLoJPHG7AaMu4HYCw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ (https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22Ramin-3D%22+contributor&biw=1297&bih=919&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=w91jVJLoJPHG7AaMu4HYCw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ)
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: tickstock on November 09, 2014, 17:25
What did the email on October 7, 2014 say?  Did you have two accounts?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: gostwyck on November 09, 2014, 17:31
What did the email on October 7, 2014 say?  Did you have two accounts?

Yep. We're obviously not being told the whole story here.

As Baruch Spinoza observed "No matter how thin you slice it, there will always be two sides"
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 09, 2014, 17:50
No, I had not two accounts. My first member name was "RaminKh******" and then I sent an email to iStock team for changing my member name to "Ramin-3D".
Before that I became an exclusive contributor on the iStock, I had a few accounts in other royalty sites: Shutterstock, fotolia, dreamstime, and ... and shutterstock & fotolia & dreamstime closed my account at the same time and no reply to my emails.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 09, 2014, 18:02
What did the email on October 7, 2014 say?  Did you have two accounts?

Yep. We're obviously not being told the whole story here.

As Baruch Spinoza observed "No matter how thin you slice it, there will always be two sides"

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: gostwyck on November 09, 2014, 18:06
No, I had not two accounts. My first member name was "RaminKhojasteh" and then I sent an email to iStock team for changing my member name to "Ramin-3D".
Before that I became an exclusive contributor on the iStock, I had a few accounts in other royalty sites: Shutterstock, fotolia, dreamstime, and ... and shutterstock & fotolia & dreamstime closed my account at the same time and no reply to my emails.

It's not because you're from Iran is it? It sounds like you were caught claiming personal copyright of imagery you didn't create. Why otherwise would all the main agencies close your accounts?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: PixelBytes on November 09, 2014, 18:07
At what point did your being in Iran enter into it?   Whatever the October 7 letter said, that's your answer right there.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 09, 2014, 18:15
No, I had not two accounts. My first member name was "RaminKhojasteh" and then I sent an email to iStock team for changing my member name to "Ramin-3D".
Before that I became an exclusive contributor on the iStock, I had a few accounts in other royalty sites: Shutterstock, fotolia, dreamstime, and ... and shutterstock & fotolia & dreamstime closed my account at the same time and no reply to my emails.

It's not because you're from Iran is it? It sounds like you were caught claiming personal copyright of imagery you didn't create. Why otherwise would all the main agencies close your accounts?

I did not do any mistake. I am a designer and all of my images and videos created by me. I never had not any image or clip on my gallery from others.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 09, 2014, 18:22
At what point did your being in Iran enter into it?   Whatever the October 7 letter said, that's your answer right there.

I became a member on the iStock in May 2009. At that time there was the name of my country at the list and now removed from list.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 09, 2014, 18:30
I apologize that my English language is not so good. Maybe I don't understand some of your post.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Copidosoma on November 09, 2014, 18:36
I certainly don't know that this is the issue for certain but...

There are currently sanctions against Iran due to the ongoing nuclear program issues.
I don't know if these affect all trade but maybe you are a victim of the companies just trying to make sure they aren't seen to be trading with Iran.

Unfortunately, things like these tend to affect people who don't directly control the policies.

http://www.international.gc.ca/sanctions/iran.aspx?lang=eng (http://www.international.gc.ca/sanctions/iran.aspx?lang=eng)
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 09, 2014, 18:43
I certainly don't know that this is the issue for certain but...

There are currently sanctions against Iran due to the ongoing nuclear program issues.
I don't know if these affect all trade but maybe you are a victim of the companies just trying to make sure they aren't seen to be trading with Iran.

Unfortunately, things like these tend to affect people who don't directly control the policies.

[url]http://www.international.gc.ca/sanctions/iran.aspx?lang=eng[/url] ([url]http://www.international.gc.ca/sanctions/iran.aspx?lang=eng[/url])


Hi,
Unfortunately, I agree with you. Policy can be seen everywhere and people who have nothing to do with politics are victims.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: fritz on November 09, 2014, 19:09
I don't believe that any stock agency will suspend account simply because country origin! Must be some other reason for such action?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Uncle Pete on November 09, 2014, 19:13
Maybe I missed it but "Closing account as per our email to you on October 7, 2014"

What did that email say?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 09, 2014, 19:18
I don't believe that any stock agency will suspend account simply because country origin! Must be some other reason for such action?

Please go to this link and see the countries list:
https://secure.istockphoto.com/join/aHR0cCUzQSUyRiUyRnd3dy5pc3RvY2twaG90by5jb20lMkZwaG90b3MlMkYzZCUyQm1hbiUyQmNoYXJhY3RlciUzRmZhY2V0cyUzRCU3QiUyNTIyMzQlMjUyMiUzQSU1QiUyNTIyMSUyNTIyJTJDJTI1MjI3JTI1MjIlMkMlMjUyMjglMjUyMiU1RCUyQyUyNTIyMzUlMjUyMiUzQSU1QiUyNTIyM2QlMjUyMG1hbiUyNTIwY2hhcmFjdGVyJTI1MjIlNUQlN0Q=

You will not see the name of my country. A few days ago there was.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: ShadySue on November 09, 2014, 19:29
I don't believe that any stock agency will suspend account simply because country origin! Must be some other reason for such action?
If it was legally required of them, they'd have no option. Even if e.g.having an Iranian contributor was borderline, iS has a history of building a fence around the Law.

I just googled 'iStock country: Iran member', which would be on any Iranian contributor's home page.

One of the contributors who showed up in that search now has country: Afghanistan; another (membername: amir_np)'s port and homepage seem to have gone (404 error), similarly another member Eyeshut, also: Pouya_Roma and ahmad-karbakhsh.

(That said, SJL's account was closed but his homepage is still up there)
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: PixelBytes on November 09, 2014, 19:52
I certainly don't know that this is the issue for certain but...

There are currently sanctions against Iran due to the ongoing nuclear program issues.
I don't know if these affect all trade but maybe you are a victim of the companies just trying to make sure they aren't seen to be trading with Iran.

Unfortunately, things like these tend to affect people who don't directly control the policies.

[url]http://www.international.gc.ca/sanctions/iran.aspx?lang=eng[/url] ([url]http://www.international.gc.ca/sanctions/iran.aspx?lang=eng[/url])


If that is the case, then I am very sorry to hear Ramin is having his living threatened by geopolitical situations he has no control over.  I hope things improve and the policy changes.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: gostwyck on November 09, 2014, 20:06
I hope things improve and the policy changes.

Which policy do you want changed? The limitation of imports/exports to Iran or the nuclear proliferation thingy?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: ijansempoi on November 09, 2014, 20:11
I don't believe that any stock agency will suspend account simply because country origin! Must be some other reason for such action?

Paypal will instantly disable your account when logging in from US sanctioned countries. God bless America and no one else !
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: WooStock on November 09, 2014, 20:24
No, I had not two accounts. My first member name was "RaminKhojasteh" and then I sent an email to iStock team for changing my member name to "Ramin-3D".
Before that I became an exclusive contributor on the iStock, I had a few accounts in other royalty sites: Shutterstock, fotolia, dreamstime, and ... and shutterstock & fotolia & dreamstime closed my account at the same time and no reply to my emails.

You are an IS exclusive contributor , but you have accounts at other agencies at the same time?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: gostwyck on November 09, 2014, 20:26
I don't believe that any stock agency will suspend account simply because country origin! Must be some other reason for such action?

Paypal will instantly disable your account when logging in from US sanctioned countries. God bless America and no one else !

Sorry but what is your point? Are you saying that US-based businesses should not abide by US foreign policy and the law?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: goober on November 09, 2014, 21:21
start your own iranstockphoto and block the USA.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Hobostocker on November 09, 2014, 23:00
so a stocker living in KABUL is ok while anyone from Iran is now a pariah ??

what the he-ll ... americans are a laughing stock.

by the way, yeah there were sanctions even 15 yrs ago for some countries and i remember our marketing manager in a well known US corp selling our products to Dubai and Kuwait as a loophole to skip the sanctions and the trade regulations, basically using middlemen or "selling by proxy".

the OP could see if he can open a bank account in one of the gulf countries or even in pakistan or afghanistan and reupload all his portfolio in a fresh new account.

Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: klsbear on November 10, 2014, 00:14
so a stocker living in KABUL is ok while anyone from Iran is now a pariah ??

what the he-ll ... americans are a laughing stock.


by the way, yeah there were sanctions even 15 yrs ago for some countries and i remember our marketing manager in a well known US corp selling our products to Dubai and Kuwait as a loophole to skip the sanctions and the trade regulations, basically using middlemen or "selling by proxy".

the OP could see if he can open a bank account in one of the gulf countries or even in pakistan or afghanistan and reupload all his portfolio in a fresh new account.

Parent company Getty may be US based, but isn't iStock in Canada?  Seems they follow Canadian tax regulations.  Are they following Canadian sanctions too?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: PixelBytes on November 10, 2014, 00:24
I hope things improve and the policy changes.

Which policy do you want changed? The limitation of imports/exports to Iran or the nuclear proliferation thingy?

It's a bit of a stretch to claim a stock portfolio of 3d renders which has been online for over 5 years is contributing to nuclear proliferation.   I feel bad for this guy getting caught in the crossfire of international affairs of state.  Empathy must be a foreign concept to you if you can't understand that.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Hobostocker on November 10, 2014, 00:30
Parent company Getty may be US based, but isn't iStock in Canada?  Seems they follow Canadian tax regulations.  Are they following Canadian sanctions too?

sure, legally it might be a grey area but it's irrilevant since Canada is a member of NATO and sanctions have been agreed by all NATO countries and partners.



Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Noedelhap on November 10, 2014, 00:33
@Ramin: What did the October 7 email say?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: leaf on November 10, 2014, 01:59
No, I had not two accounts. My first member name was "RaminKhojasteh" and then I sent an email to iStock team for changing my member name to "Ramin-3D".
Before that I became an exclusive contributor on the iStock, I had a few accounts in other royalty sites: Shutterstock, fotolia, dreamstime, and ... and shutterstock & fotolia & dreamstime closed my account at the same time and no reply to my emails.

You are an IS exclusive contributor , but you have accounts at other agencies at the same time?

he said he had account at the other sites before he was exclusive.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on November 10, 2014, 02:29
It sounds as if regulatory authorities in the US have sent a notice to microstock companies instructing them to delete Iranian accounts. I'm actually surprised there was any way of stock agencies sending money to Iran in the first place.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Micky_Mango on November 10, 2014, 03:02
Why would US regulatory authorities have any  jurisdiction over another sovereign country, ie. Canada?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: ShadySue on November 10, 2014, 03:35
Seems like a few people don't know that iS is based in Canada and their legalese is prefaced by 'under Canadian / Alberta law'.
E.g. the ASA:
" Applicable law
    The Site is controlled, operated and administered by iStockphoto from within the Province of Alberta, Canada. The Site can be accessed from all provinces and territories of Canada, as well as from other countries around the world. As each of these jurisdictions has laws that may differ from those of the Province of Alberta, you acknowledge and agree that this Agreement will be governed under the laws of the Province of Alberta and the federal laws of Canada applicable therein (without reference to conflicts of laws principles). You hereby irrevocably submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the Courts of the Province of Alberta, Canada with respect to the subject matter of this Agreement. "
Also in the Membership agreement and 9.1 of the Content Licence Agreement.
In their Contact Us page, their Calgary address is given.

Seems also like some didn't read reply #10 above by Copidosoma which gave a link to the relevant sanction information. Even if they didn't click on the link (but opined anyway), .ca is a strong clue.
http://www.international.gc.ca/sanctions/iran.aspx?lang=eng (http://www.international.gc.ca/sanctions/iran.aspx?lang=eng)
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Lightrecorder on November 10, 2014, 03:40
Gostwick, you seem to be a bit 'biased'* as well

*I wanted to use another word there, but I am sure you know what I mean with 'biased'
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on November 10, 2014, 04:37
Why would US regulatory authorities have any  jurisdiction over another sovereign country, ie. Canada?

Because they do. If you don't do what they demand for "security purposes" they can stop their companies doing business with your country and your government doesn't want them to do that. In Qatar, banking is subject to all sorts of US-demanded restrictions "to prevent money-laundering". Fifteen or 20 years ago the Qatar Monetary Authority decided the rules, now the Qatar Central Bank is imposing US-stipulated regulations - I suppose it's "globalisation".
But as iStock is owned by Getty, they only have to threaten Getty with action if it doesn't apply US regulations to its foreign subsidiaries. They could, for example, ban US access to iStock's site.
The US isn't the only bully on the block. Switzerland is losing its special trading relationships with the EU because the Swiss voted on something in a referendum that is contrary to EU rules on free movement of people. Scandinavian non-EU members also have to work within EU laws to maintain trading relationships.
PS - ShadySue - the guy said that SS, FOT and DT, all US-based, had closed his accounts at exactly the same time, which gives good reason to think that the initiative came from the US authorities rather than the Canadian side.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: ShadySue on November 10, 2014, 04:48
No. The OP said before he was  iS exclusive he had accounts with the US based agencies who closed his account at the same time. Then he became iS exclusive and as of 7th Oct they closed his account.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Hobostocker on November 10, 2014, 04:59
I suppose it's "globalisation".

no, it's blackmailing.
it's "do as we say, or else ..."


Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Justanotherphotographer on November 10, 2014, 05:08
These threads are always so pointless. We haven't even got half the story here. The OP hasn't told us what the 7th Oct email said. It could be nothing to do with his nationality. What I do know is that when someone can be bothered to look into it has always turned out to be something different than what has been stated.

I mean what is this about?:

"No, I had not two accounts. My first member name was "RaminKhojasteh" and then I sent an email to iStock team for changing my member name to "Ramin-3D".
Before that I became an exclusive contributor on the iStock, I had a few accounts in other royalty sites: Shutterstock, fotolia, dreamstime, and ... and shutterstock & fotolia & dreamstime closed my account at the same time and no reply to my emails."

These accounts were before he became exclusive with IS yet they were just closed now? How does that work?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Red On on November 10, 2014, 05:11
so a stocker living in KABUL is ok while anyone from Iran is now a pariah ??

what the he-ll ... americans are a laughing stock.

...

Of Course: Government of Afghanistan is controlled by the USA, Iran no.

I can't believe.... This story, if confirmed, smell of McCarthysm and Tydings Committee
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on November 10, 2014, 05:46
No. The OP said before he was  iS exclusive he had accounts with the US based agencies who closed his account at the same time. Then he became iS exclusive and as of 7th Oct they closed his account.
Oh, it's ambiguous. Could be read either way. I took it that he had removed his portfolios but left his accounts open.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: ShadySue on November 10, 2014, 06:06
True it could be read your way.
 So could the OP share what was in the email of 7th October?
I'm sure if his account was closed  for another reason Lobo will  be along soon to tell us.
Meanwhile,  can anyone find any active IS accounts from Iran? 
And there's still the intrique that Sean's homepage is still on iS but the Irani accounts are 404 errors.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Lizard on November 10, 2014, 06:15
UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS


Article 2.


Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 23.

(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Karen on November 10, 2014, 06:22
@Ramin: What did the October 7 email say?


I am wondering why he prefers no to tell what did the October 7 email say...

There are lots of Iranian contributors on Shutterstock, Borna Mirahmadian
http://www.bornamir.com/section653944.html (http://www.bornamir.com/section653944.html)
http://www.shutterstock.com/g/bornamir (http://www.shutterstock.com/g/bornamir)
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on November 10, 2014, 06:40
And there's still the intrique that Sean's homepage is still on iS but the Iraqui accounts are 404 errors.

I still have an "account".  It was only my contributor agreement that was terminated.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on November 10, 2014, 06:49
@Ramin: What did the October 7 email say?


I am wondering why he prefers no to tell what did the October 7 email say...

There are lots of Iranian contributors on Shutterstock, Borna Mirahmadian
[url]http://www.bornamir.com/section653944.html[/url] ([url]http://www.bornamir.com/section653944.html[/url])
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/g/bornamir[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/g/bornamir[/url])


But is he registered from Iran or from somewhere else? It isn't the nationality that is under sanctions, it is the country. There wouldn't be a sanctions problem for an Iranian based outside Iran.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: PZF on November 10, 2014, 06:56
@Ramin: What did the October 7 email say?
Indeed. The rest is speculation at best.
Come on Ramin - what did the email of October 7 ACTUALLY say? And what did the letter from other agenceis say?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Pixart on November 10, 2014, 11:01
There are indeed trade sanctions against Iran, the photographs would be considered "goods" and Istock is abiding by Canadian law, prohibiting:

•importing, purchasing, acquiring, shipping or transhipping any goods that are exported, supplied or shipped from Iran after May 29, 2013, whether the goods originated in Iran or elsewhere, subject to certain exemptions;

I'm sorry this has happened to you as an individual, it really s*cks.  There is more info here http://www.international.gc.ca/sanctions/iran.aspx?lang=eng (http://www.international.gc.ca/sanctions/iran.aspx?lang=eng)
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 10, 2014, 15:07
@Ramin: What did the October 7 email say?


I am wondering why he prefers no to tell what did the October 7 email say...

There are lots of Iranian contributors on Shutterstock, Borna Mirahmadian
[url]http://www.bornamir.com/section653944.html[/url] ([url]http://www.bornamir.com/section653944.html[/url])
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/g/bornamir[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/g/bornamir[/url])


Hi,
I didn't receive any email on October 7th.
Some Iranian artists are citizens of other countries too.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 10, 2014, 15:12
@Ramin: What did the October 7 email say?
Indeed. The rest is speculation at best.
Come on Ramin - what did the email of October 7 ACTUALLY say? And what did the letter from other agenceis say?

I don't know. I received nothing. After that some agency closed my accounts I sent to them a few emails but they didn't say acceptable reasons.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Lightrecorder on November 10, 2014, 15:17
If this is because of the embargo, at least they should communicate that, instead of just closing accounts without any explanation. These millionaires have no issues with taking someones livelyhood, sentencing someone to poverty, when soaking in hottubs, getting their d.cks sucked by glamour girls. Do they actually realise what the impact is of their decissions. This is a job to support their family for many, not a hobby making pennies.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 10, 2014, 15:17
@Ramin: What did the October 7 email say?


I am wondering why he prefers no to tell what did the October 7 email say...

There are lots of Iranian contributors on Shutterstock, Borna Mirahmadian
[url]http://www.bornamir.com/section653944.html[/url] ([url]http://www.bornamir.com/section653944.html[/url])
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/g/bornamir[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/g/bornamir[/url])


But is he registered from Iran or from somewhere else? It isn't the nationality that is under sanctions, it is the country. There wouldn't be a sanctions problem for an Iranian based outside Iran.


Yes, I registered from Iran. Some of Iranian are citizens of another country. I have only Iran passport and other certifications.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 10, 2014, 15:23
@Ramin: What did the October 7 email say?

I did not receive any email on October 7. I received only (November 6):
_____________________________________________

Dear Ramin,

The administration team at iStock has revoked your forum privileges.  Comments from iStock Administrators (if any):

Closing account as per our email to you on October 7, 2014


If you would like to discuss this with client relations, please email [email protected].

Best Regards,
iStock.com

_____________________________________________

I received this email November 6 and they wrote about October 7 !!!!!! :o
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 10, 2014, 15:29
No, I had not two accounts. My first member name was "RaminKhojasteh" and then I sent an email to iStock team for changing my member name to "Ramin-3D".
Before that I became an exclusive contributor on the iStock, I had a few accounts in other royalty sites: Shutterstock, fotolia, dreamstime, and ... and shutterstock & fotolia & dreamstime closed my account at the same time and no reply to my emails.

You are an IS exclusive contributor , but you have accounts at other agencies at the same time?

he said he had account at the other sites before he was exclusive.

When I was exclusive on the iStock I had not any image in other sites. The iStock team found all of my images on the internet and sent email to me and asked me for removing them. I removed all of them and then they confirmed my exclusivity.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: ShadySue on November 10, 2014, 15:30
UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS
Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 23.

(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

iStock's EASA
11 a "... Stockphoto may ... terminate this Agreement ... for any reason by giving you thirty (30) days notice by e-mail at the last address contained in your membership information. ..."
(as contributors can)
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 10, 2014, 15:39
No. The OP said before he was  iS exclusive he had accounts with the US based agencies who closed his account at the same time. Then he became iS exclusive and as of 7th Oct they closed his account.

Exactly. I became an exclusive member on the iStock after the US besed agencies closed my accounts. Some of my images was on the free sites same as Facebook and Flickr. I didn't know. The iS team said me about it and I sent email to these sites for removing my copyrighted images. They removed them and I became exclusive contributor (Two or three years ago).
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Lightrecorder on November 10, 2014, 15:41
UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS
Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 23.

(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

iStock's EASA
11 a "... Stockphoto may ... terminate this Agreement ... for any reason by giving you thirty (30) days notice by e-mail at the last address contained in your membership information. ..."
(as contributors can)
So what? What happened to showing some sympahty.

Will yo be so clinical if it happens to you.?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 10, 2014, 15:47
No. The OP said before he was  iS exclusive he had accounts with the US based agencies who closed his account at the same time. Then he became iS exclusive and as of 7th Oct they closed his account.
Oh, it's ambiguous. Could be read either way. I took it that he had removed his portfolios but left his accounts open.

Also my account has closed. All of my portfolio and my account is missed.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: ShadySue on November 10, 2014, 15:49
UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS
Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 23.

(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

iStock's EASA
11 a "... Stockphoto may ... terminate this Agreement ... for any reason by giving you thirty (30) days notice by e-mail at the last address contained in your membership information. ..."
(as contributors can)
So what? What happened to showing some sympahty.

Will yo be so clinical if it happens to you.?

I'm not being clinical, and I am sympathetic, though no amount of sympathy can help the OP in this situation.

Just saying that the UDHR isn't relevant to this situation, IMO.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Lightrecorder on November 10, 2014, 15:59
Fair enough, its just that in todays world people are always hiding behind and pointing at TOS. What happened to looking at stuff case by case, show some humanity, work with people to find solutions, etc. Instead of this robotic approach using blanket statements. Ugh.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: ShadySue on November 10, 2014, 16:34
Fair enough, its just that in todays world people are always hiding behind and pointing at TOS. What happened to looking at stuff case by case, show some humanity, work with people to find solutions, etc. Instead of this robotic approach using blanket statements. Ugh.
Presumably as you picked up on my post, you'd rather someone was hostile towards the OP as some have been on this thread, than trying to stay neutral until all the facts came out. Read back through this thread and you'll see that has been my view throughout.

I'll be interested to see how you will work with the OP to find a solution. The only one I can think of has already been suggested, which is to move out of Iran, which may well be unacceptable or untenable for any number of reasons.
However, I've never been great at lateral thinking, and await the conclusions of those who are so gifted.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Lizard on November 10, 2014, 17:00
UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS
Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 23.

(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.


iStock's EASA
11 a "... Stockphoto may ... terminate this Agreement ... for any reason by giving you thirty (30) days notice by e-mail at the last address contained in your membership information. ..."
(as contributors can)



Sorry but you are quoting the highest legal agreement of them all, the one all others agreements including LAWS have to follow, and no reason is good enough legally to confront declaration of human rights especially not terms of a company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights)


 ;)

 
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Lightrecorder on November 10, 2014, 17:08
Fair enough, its just that in todays world people are always hiding behind and pointing at TOS. What happened to looking at stuff case by case, show some humanity, work with people to find solutions, etc. Instead of this robotic approach using blanket statements. Ugh.
Presumably as you picked up on my post, you'd rather someone was hostile towards the OP as some have been on this thread, than trying to stay neutral until all the facts came out. Read back through this thread and you'll see that has been my view throughout.

I'll be interested to see how you will work with the OP to find a solution. The only one I can think of has already been suggested, which is to move out of Iran, which may well be unacceptable or untenable for any number of reasons.
However, I've never been great at lateral thinking, and await the conclusions of those who are so gifted.
I am not talking about you, I am talking about agencies. If you read back this isnt between you and the OP.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 10, 2014, 17:10
The Islamic government in Iran pressure the Iranian people and the USA also puts more pressure on my people. Many people of Iran moved to other places for better life. I can go from here but I love my homeland. Many years ago I could go from here. If my country is good or bad I love it. I love my country if I am poor. If I become an American citizen or a Canadian citizen or ... I never have these problems but I will stay. I will stay even if all of agencies don't register me.
36 years ago, my country was better than more countries. We had a better life in England or America, and now we register on an American or a Canadian site for a few dollars, because my country's wealth is in the hands of thieves and looters.

Thank you all

Ramin
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: tickstock on November 10, 2014, 17:14
The Islamic government in Iran pressure the Iranian people and the USA also puts more pressure on my people. Many people of Iran moved to other places for better life. I can go from here but I love my homeland. Many years ago I could go from here. If my country is good or bad I love it. I love my country if I am poor. If I become an American citizen or a Canadian citizen or ... I never have these problems but I will stay. I will stay even if all of agencies don't register me.
36 years ago, my country was better than more countries. We had a better life in England or America, and now we register on a American or Canadian site for a few dollars, because my country's wealth is in the hands of thieves and looters.

Thank you all

Ramin
You can try calling them if you don't get a response from the email address they sent you, it may take some time to get a reply from email though.  If it is because of sanctions then there's probably nothing that can be done.  Good luck and hopefully those sanctions will be lifted soon.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 10, 2014, 17:18
The Islamic government in Iran pressure the Iranian people and the USA also puts more pressure on my people. Many people of Iran moved to other places for better life. I can go from here but I love my homeland. Many years ago I could go from here. If my country is good or bad I love it. I love my country if I am poor. If I become an American citizen or a Canadian citizen or ... I never have these problems but I will stay. I will stay even if all of agencies don't register me.
36 years ago, my country was better than more countries. We had a better life in England or America, and now we register on a American or Canadian site for a few dollars, because my country's wealth is in the hands of thieves and looters.

Thank you all

Ramin
You can try calling them if you don't get a response from the email address they sent you, it may take some time to get a reply from email though.  If it is because of sanctions then there's probably nothing that can be done.  Good luck and hopefully those sanctions will be lifted soon.

Thanks a lot for your Sympathy.
Sincerely
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Copidosoma on November 10, 2014, 17:29
The Islamic government in Iran pressure the Iranian people and the USA also puts more pressure on my people. Many people of Iran moved to other places for better life. I can go from here but I love my homeland. Many years ago I could go from here. If my country is good or bad I love it. I love my country if I am poor. If I become an American citizen or a Canadian citizen or ... I never have these problems but I will stay. I will stay even if all of agencies don't register me.
36 years ago, my country was better than more countries. We had a better life in England or America, and now we register on a American or Canadian site for a few dollars, because my country's wealth is in the hands of thieves and looters.

Thank you all

Ramin

There is nothing wrong with your country. It has a very rich and wonderful history. Living anywhere else isn't going to make you problem free. You'll just have a different set of problems.

The problem is that your current government is not necessarily working in your best interest (although that is an observation from my point of view which is certainly not "all knowing").

Sanctions always have impacts on people who don't deserve to be impacted. Problem is that the countries imposing those sanctions have very few other ways to try to influence the situation. The fact of the matter is that the Iranian government is participating in activities that much of the rest of the world can't support. Your right to an income from stock photography is being sacrificed for what is perceived as the greater good.

I sincerely hope that Iran someday recovers its past grandeur. It is a place I'd like to visit some day.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 10, 2014, 17:52
The Islamic government in Iran pressure the Iranian people and the USA also puts more pressure on my people. Many people of Iran moved to other places for better life. I can go from here but I love my homeland. Many years ago I could go from here. If my country is good or bad I love it. I love my country if I am poor. If I become an American citizen or a Canadian citizen or ... I never have these problems but I will stay. I will stay even if all of agencies don't register me.
36 years ago, my country was better than more countries. We had a better life in England or America, and now we register on a American or Canadian site for a few dollars, because my country's wealth is in the hands of thieves and looters.

Thank you all

Ramin

There is nothing wrong with your country. It has a very rich and wonderful history. Living anywhere else isn't going to make you problem free. You'll just have a different set of problems.

The problem is that your current government is not necessarily working in your best interest (although that is an observation from my point of view which is certainly not "all knowing").

Sanctions always have impacts on people who don't deserve to be impacted. Problem is that the countries imposing those sanctions have very few other ways to try to influence the situation. The fact of the matter is that the Iranian government is participating in activities that much of the rest of the world can't support. Your right to an income from stock photography is being sacrificed for what is perceived as the greater good.

I sincerely hope that Iran someday recovers its past grandeur. It is a place I'd like to visit some day.

Yes, the current government in Iran is Islamic not Iranian. They do not consider themselves Persians. They are not worried about Iran. They only worried about Islam.
They are stealing. They loot. And stealing money goes to another country. Also we have a great brain drain and many scientists of my country are in the USA and Canada and Europe. So the problem between America and Islamic regime is a false representation. They both are satisfied because both of them have benefits.

I wish everything gets better and I hope to see you in Iran. You can be my guest.   :)
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: gostwyck on November 10, 2014, 19:45
Iran has a democratically elected government as far as I'm aware. The present government and their policies are the product of the settled will of the population of Iran are they not?

If those policies happen to be so against those of Western countries (also democratically elected) that said Western countries choose to not trade, and/or impose sanctions against them ... then that is essentially the choice the population of Iran made when they elected their government.

If you deliberately pursue policies against the interests of your trading partners then don't be surprised if later they choose not to trade with you.

I have no idea what the political leanings of the OP are but, for example, if he had enthusiastically voted for and cheered for the government that caused this crisis with the West ... then  it would be difficult to find sympathy for his plight.

You can't on one hand declare your hated for the West whilst on the other seek to benefit from their institutions and the opportunities they provide.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Lizard on November 10, 2014, 21:41
Iran has a democratically elected government as far as I'm aware. The present government and their policies are the product of the settled will of the population of Iran are they not?

If those policies happen to be so against those of Western countries (also democratically elected) that said Western countries choose to not trade, and/or impose sanctions against them ... then that is essentially the choice the population of Iran made when they elected their government.

If you deliberately pursue policies against the interests of your trading partners then don't be surprised if later they choose not to trade with you.

I have no idea what the political leanings of the OP are but, for example, if he had enthusiastically voted for and cheered for the government that caused this crisis with the West ... then  it would be difficult to find sympathy for his plight.

You can't on one hand declare your hated for the West whilst on the other seek to benefit from their institutions and the opportunities they provide.


As I recall, and please do correct me if Im wrong, wasn't it the west who caused the crisis because that government of theirs is doing exact same things that our "western governments" have been doing for decades ?  Who and when gave us rights to be more righteous?

Or to get on the other question, how are "our" governments reacting to countries that openly claim  some western governments and companies are deliberately pursuing policies against their interests and choose not to trade with the west ?

Should I start listing them ?

Or even only change price of their main homeland product from one currency to another ?

And on the last, is it really difficult to find sympathy for anyone in this world ?

Yes most probably he was the one who played a role in something weird thats poking you in the eye from the headlines of corporate newspapers in those few moments we are all sharing the planet...

Cmon



Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Hobostocker on November 11, 2014, 00:47
Iran will soon join SCO and solve all its problems once and for all.

they're already trading petrol in Rubles and Yuan by the way.

if you think sticking with the american camp is a good idea just look what they did with Sirya, Lybia, and Iraq.

i could also tell you about other shiny examples here in south east asia, Philippines for instance, or the total corruption in places like Taiwan.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Hobostocker on November 11, 2014, 00:55
the Iranian government is participating in activities that much of the rest of the world can't support.

Iran is doing nothing wrong and if the americans gave Pakistan atomic bombs there's no reason Iran shouldn't do the same for self defence especially considering how unpredictable and *-ed up the pakistani elite is and not to mention they're now surrounded by pro-american countries like afghanistan, iraq, turkey (member of NATO), and being threatened and blackmailed on a daily basis by Israel, Qatar, UAE, and the EU.

Iran's only fault is refusing to let foreigners steal their oil and their resources as during the disgraceful Shia regime.

As much as this guy is coming here with his sob story i can tell him that the future will soon change once Iran joins SCO and iranian people are allowed to move and work and trade within SCO countries.

Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Lightrecorder on November 11, 2014, 03:49
Iran has a democratically elected government as far as I'm aware. The present government and their policies are the product of the settled will of the population of Iran are they not?

If those policies happen to be so against those of Western countries (also democratically elected) that said Western countries choose to not trade, and/or impose sanctions against them ... then that is essentially the choice the population of Iran made when they elected their government.

If you deliberately pursue policies against the interests of your trading partners then don't be surprised if later they choose not to trade with you.

I have no idea what the political leanings of the OP are but, for example, if he had enthusiastically voted for and cheered for the government that caused this crisis with the West ... then  it would be difficult to find sympathy for his plight.

You can't on one hand declare your hated for the West whilst on the other seek to benefit from their institutions and the opportunities they provide.
You must be  incredibly ignorant judging by this comment
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: PZF on November 11, 2014, 05:40
Deleted. Wasn't paying attention.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: gostwyck on November 11, 2014, 05:58
Iran has a democratically elected government as far as I'm aware. The present government and their policies are the product of the settled will of the population of Iran are they not?

If those policies happen to be so against those of Western countries (also democratically elected) that said Western countries choose to not trade, and/or impose sanctions against them ... then that is essentially the choice the population of Iran made when they elected their government.

If you deliberately pursue policies against the interests of your trading partners then don't be surprised if later they choose not to trade with you.

I have no idea what the political leanings of the OP are but, for example, if he had enthusiastically voted for and cheered for the government that caused this crisis with the West ... then  it would be difficult to find sympathy for his plight.

You can't on one hand declare your hated for the West whilst on the other seek to benefit from their institutions and the opportunities they provide.
You must be  incredibly ignorant judging by this comment

That's easy for you to say __ probably beyond your capabilities to justify it however. I think it is far more 'ignorant' to call someone's comment ignorant without explaining why. Please do enlighten us with your wisdom regarding the relationship between Iran and the West.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on November 11, 2014, 06:05
Iranian democracy is an odd beast, Gostwyck.  It's the sort of democracy that the UK might have if the Church of England was allowed to vet all political parties and candidates and reject any it didn't like, and where Parliament and Premier could be over-ruled by the Archbishop of Canterbury.

Since this is going political, I'll add a few things: back in 2005 or 2006 (can't remember exactly) Mossad revealed that if Iran wasn't bombed immediately it would unquestionably have a nuclear bomb within 18 months. This information seems to be what prompted Gulf Arab states to set up their own "peaceful nuclear programme" - as we all know, peaceful nuclear programmes are what is needed to deter regional rivals who are about to get nuclear bombs. In the event, the 18 months passed without Iran getting bombed (to Israel's annoyance) and without it getting nuclear weapons either. A decade later it still does not seem to have any weapons-grade enriched uraniam and has converted a lot of its lower-grade enriched U into a form which prevents it being used in weapons (they always said it was for medical equipment). Meanwhile, nobody is talking about the "peaceful" Saudi/GCC nuclear programme, though Riyadh has nuclear co-operation deals with the US, China and Pakistan and is also rumoured to have an agreement with Islamabad to take delivery of a nuke or two any time it feels the need. If ISIS were ever to topple Al Saud and extend the Caliphate into the Arabian Peninsula I suspect we would hear lots of shocking stories along the same lines as those told about Iran.

For those who say that Arab oil powers don't need to go nuclear, it's worth remembering that the US was desperate to install nuclear power plants all over Iran when the Shah was in power, and would tell anybody who asked that it was stupid to waste oil making electricity when you could do the same with atomic power - exactly the opposite of what they say today.

I don't know if Iran wants a nuclear bomb. Back in the Cold War we had wise policies of Mutually Assured Destruction and suchlike keeping the peace between Russia and the West. I don't doubt that Iran regards nuclear-armed Israel as being as much of a threat to it as the US thought the USSR was 30 years ago.  I do know that the Ayatollahs in Qom, who direct Iranian policy, have never shown any desire for an early meeting with Allah as a result of a military miscalculation. For that reason, I'm not particularly worried about Iran getting nukes, it might even improve stability by making Israel think twice before using excessive force against neighbouring states. The nutters in the North Korean and Pakistani military, who already have their hands on nukes, are much more scary than the cooly calculating old men who run Iran.

There's so much in nuclear foreign policy that makes no sense at all that it is clearly a smokescreen for something else. How can it not be a problem for Pakistan to have nukes, when bin Laden was allowed to hide for years just a couple of hundred yards from a major Pakistani Army base? And when the raid that killed him didn't cause Islamabad to ask how he could hide there, it made them mad about traitors allowing the Yanks to get to him (a high treason trial followed against a doctor who helped the US). It's okay for Saudi to plan for 16 civilian reactors by 2030 but not for Iran to have any - and that's despite the involvement of Saudis in Al Qaeda and Isis, while Iran has no links with terrorist acts against the West  (with the likely exception of the Lockerbie bombing, which was probably retaliation for the US shooting down an Iranian civil airliner shortly before).

And all this leads to some poor bugger getting an iStock account closed.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: ShadySue on November 11, 2014, 06:27
UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS
Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 23.

(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.


iStock's EASA
11 a "... Stockphoto may ... terminate this Agreement ... for any reason by giving you thirty (30) days notice by e-mail at the last address contained in your membership information. ..."
(as contributors can)



Sorry but you are quoting the highest legal agreement of them all, the one all others agreements including LAWS have to follow, and no reason is good enough legally to confront declaration of human rights especially not terms of a company.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights[/url])


 ;)


The UDHR does not protect you if you are 'let go' from your employment because e.g. they are losing orders, so in the red.
And it does not force UN signatory nations to allow in any and all economic migrants.

However, this isn't the place for this discussion. This and several other posts on this thread should be in OffTopic: Ranting.

Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: ShadySue on November 11, 2014, 06:35
Fair enough, its just that in todays world people are always hiding behind and pointing at TOS. What happened to looking at stuff case by case, show some humanity, work with people to find solutions, etc. Instead of this robotic approach using blanket statements. Ugh.
Presumably as you picked up on my post, you'd rather someone was hostile towards the OP as some have been on this thread, than trying to stay neutral until all the facts came out. Read back through this thread and you'll see that has been my view throughout.

I'll be interested to see how you will work with the OP to find a solution. The only one I can think of has already been suggested, which is to move out of Iran, which may well be unacceptable or untenable for any number of reasons.
However, I've never been great at lateral thinking, and await the conclusions of those who are so gifted.
I am not talking about you, I am talking about agencies. If you read back this isnt between you and the OP.
If you read back, your comments were directed to me specifically.
I can't see that any of the agencies would have any interest in expending time and money helping any small group of contributors.
iS aren't even agents, who might be expected to have a slight responsibility to watch out for our interests. They unilaterally, and without warning, decided that they are merely 'distributors'.

When threatened by exernal authorities with being closed down, or have their trading restricted in some way, agencies/distributors will almost certainly take the line of least resistance.
E.g. SS covers this eventuality by saying, "Shutterstock has the right to refuse to establish an account or to close any existing account, for fraud, intellectual property infringement, violation of a third party's rights including those of privacy or publicity, artificially inflating downloads, submission of material that is obscene in nature, violent or that might be construed as defamatory, failure to comply with Shutterstock's guidelines as may be amended from time to time, for any breach of the terms of this or any other agreement that you have with Shutterstock, or for convenience."

But like I said, any discussion of the legality of this vis a vis the UDHR doesn't really belong on this thread.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Lightrecorder on November 11, 2014, 06:53
Iran has a democratically elected government as far as I'm aware. The present government and their policies are the product of the settled will of the population of Iran are they not?

If those policies happen to be so against those of Western countries (also democratically elected) that said Western countries choose to not trade, and/or impose sanctions against them ... then that is essentially the choice the population of Iran made when they elected their government.

If you deliberately pursue policies against the interests of your trading partners then don't be surprised if later they choose not to trade with you.

I have no idea what the political leanings of the OP are but, for example, if he had enthusiastically voted for and cheered for the government that caused this crisis with the West ... then  it would be difficult to find sympathy for his plight.

You can't on one hand declare your hated for the West whilst on the other seek to benefit from their institutions and the opportunities they provide.
You must be  incredibly ignorant judging by this comment

That's easy for you to say __ probably beyond your capabilities to justify it however. I think it is far more 'ignorant' to call someone's comment ignorant without explaining why. Please do enlighten us with your wisdom regarding the relationship between Iran and the West.
Your first line shows your ignorance. If you even say or think differently, anything other than pro government, you disappear. Democracy out of fear for never seeing your kids again. Thats not a democracy in my book.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: ShadySue on November 11, 2014, 06:54
Iran has a democratically elected government as far as I'm aware. The present government and their policies are the product of the settled will of the population of Iran are they not?

http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/iran-new-briefing-reveals-crackdown-dissent-ahead-election-2013-06-12 (http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/iran-new-briefing-reveals-crackdown-dissent-ahead-election-2013-06-12)
etc etc etc
Google is your friend.

Quote
I have no idea what the political leanings of the OP are but, for example, if he had enthusiastically voted for and cheered for the government that caused this crisis with the West ... then  it would be difficult to find sympathy for his plight.


What did the email on October 7, 2014 say?  Did you have two accounts?

Yep. We're obviously not being told the whole story here.
As Baruch Spinoza observed "No matter how thin you slice it, there will always be two sides"


You seem particularly determined to side against the OP.
Given the lack of Lobo's appearance with a counter-claim, and given that no-one has so far come up with an extant iS account from a contributor based in Iran, it is not 'obvious' that we weren't being told the whole story.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: cobalt on November 11, 2014, 08:37
Just because you can vote a country is not a democracy. in East Germany everyone had to vote, but any real opposition was thrown in jail, harrassed, killed, had their children taken away etc...

Iran is not a democracy with choices the way we know it in the West.

So I don't know what happened here, but you cannot dismiss the op outright.

And the Economics sanctions obviously hurt all kinds of innocent civilians.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: ShadySue on November 11, 2014, 09:27
Just because you can vote a country is not a democracy.
Even in a free democracy, exercising your vote doesn't necessarily mean that you agree with all the policies of the party you voted for. Certainly no one party here 'ticks all my boxes' (sorry for the cliché), I just have to vote for the 'nearest fit'.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Beppe Grillo on November 11, 2014, 10:28
^
You can vote for who you want it will not change absolutely nothing.
It is GodMoney* commanding here…


*Federal Bank, Rockefeller, Rothschild and friends…
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: PixelBytes on November 11, 2014, 13:19
Iranian democracy is an odd beast, Gostwyck.  It's the sort of democracy that the UK might have if the Church of England was allowed to vet all political parties and candidates and reject any it didn't like, and where Parliament and Premier could be over-ruled by the Archbishop of Canterbury.

Since this is going political, I'll add a few things: back in 2005 or 2006 (can't remember exactly) Mossad revealed that if Iran wasn't bombed immediately it would unquestionably have a nuclear bomb within 18 months. This information seems to be what prompted Gulf Arab states to set up their own "peaceful nuclear programme" - as we all know, peaceful nuclear programmes are what is needed to deter regional rivals who are about to get nuclear bombs. In the event, the 18 months passed without Iran getting bombed (to Israel's annoyance) and without it getting nuclear weapons either. A decade later it still does not seem to have any weapons-grade enriched uraniam and has converted a lot of its lower-grade enriched U into a form which prevents it being used in weapons (they always said it was for medical equipment). Meanwhile, nobody is talking about the "peaceful" Saudi/GCC nuclear programme, though Riyadh has nuclear co-operation deals with the US, China and Pakistan and is also rumoured to have an agreement with Islamabad to take delivery of a nuke or two any time it feels the need. If ISIS were ever to topple Al Saud and extend the Caliphate into the Arabian Peninsula I suspect we would hear lots of shocking stories along the same lines as those told about Iran.

For those who say that Arab oil powers don't need to go nuclear, it's worth remembering that the US was desperate to install nuclear power plants all over Iran when the Shah was in power, and would tell anybody who asked that it was stupid to waste oil making electricity when you could do the same with atomic power - exactly the opposite of what they say today.

I don't know if Iran wants a nuclear bomb. Back in the Cold War we had wise policies of Mutually Assured Destruction and suchlike keeping the peace between Russia and the West. I don't doubt that Iran regards nuclear-armed Israel as being as much of a threat to it as the US thought the USSR was 30 years ago.  I do know that the Ayatollahs in Qom, who direct Iranian policy, have never shown any desire for an early meeting with Allah as a result of a military miscalculation. For that reason, I'm not particularly worried about Iran getting nukes, it might even improve stability by making Israel think twice before using excessive force against neighbouring states. The nutters in the North Korean and Pakistani military, who already have their hands on nukes, are much more scary than the cooly calculating old men who run Iran.

There's so much in nuclear foreign policy that makes no sense at all that it is clearly a smokescreen for something else. How can it not be a problem for Pakistan to have nukes, when bin Laden was allowed to hide for years just a couple of hundred yards from a major Pakistani Army base? And when the raid that killed him didn't cause Islamabad to ask how he could hide there, it made them mad about traitors allowing the Yanks to get to him (a high treason trial followed against a doctor who helped the US). It's okay for Saudi to plan for 16 civilian reactors by 2030 but not for Iran to have any - and that's despite the involvement of Saudis in Al Qaeda and Isis, while Iran has no links with terrorist acts against the West  (with the likely exception of the Lockerbie bombing, which was probably retaliation for the US shooting down an Iranian civil airliner shortly before).

And all this leads to some poor bugger getting an iStock account closed.

Very informative post.   Thank you for taking the time to share such a comprehensive overview.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Milleflore on November 11, 2014, 15:27
One of the reasons (although obviously not all) why USA is enforcing sanctions against Iran is to protect Israeli interests and to maintain stability in the Middle East. Israel and Iraq are long time enemies of Iran, and if Iran nukes up, then all hell could potentially break lose in the Middle East.

As for the injustice of nukes being in the hands of the USA but not others, I personally would prefer that there were no nukes, but at the very least best in the hands of true democracies. Iran, as many have mentioned above, is definitely not a democracy. Its pretty much one sided and under the control of the Ayatollah.

But all this aside, how can we help the OP? If leaving your country is not an option (and why should it be), perhaps you just have to consider going independent and uploading to those sites that have no political biases in this matter.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Milleflore on November 11, 2014, 15:51
On a lighter note, this whole discussion reminds me of a very funny cartoon on YouTube that pretty much sums it all up. (Warning contains explicit language.)

The End of the World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpjgl2baLs#ws)
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: DF_Studios on November 11, 2014, 16:14
At some point people have to take responsibility for their own governing.   If you want to share in the wealth of the modern world then act like your part of this century.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Beppe Grillo on November 11, 2014, 16:18
I personally would prefer that there were no nukes, but at the very least best in the hands of true democracies. Iran, as many have mentioned above, is definitely not a democracy.
Till today only one country in the world has used the atomic bomb against people, and this country pretend to export/impose (most of the time using the force)  his model of democracy…  So, tell me what is a true democracy?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Milleflore on November 11, 2014, 16:37
I personally would prefer that there were no nukes, but at the very least best in the hands of true democracies. Iran, as many have mentioned above, is definitely not a democracy.
Till today only one country in the world has used the atomic bomb against people, and this country pretend to export/impose (most of the time using the force)  his model of democracy…  So, tell me what is a true democracy?

In truth there is no such thing as a true democracy but those that strive towards that, have the force of their people to answer to, and as such, make 'saner' decisions. Albeit, not always .. and as you have pointed out, some that many don't agree with, as with enforcing the end to WWII.

If you are voting me down because you think I am pro-USA, then you need to watch that YouTube video I posted ... which pretty much sums up what Australians really think :)) lol

On the other hand, the way I look at it is, if the USA were not the self-appointed Leaders of the Free World, than who would be? Perhaps we should think about that. Perhaps its a matter of better the devil we know, than the devil we dont.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Noedelhap on November 11, 2014, 17:12
UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS
Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 23.

(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.


iStock's EASA
11 a "... Stockphoto may ... terminate this Agreement ... for any reason by giving you thirty (30) days notice by e-mail at the last address contained in your membership information. ..."
(as contributors can)



Sorry but you are quoting the highest legal agreement of them all, the one all others agreements including LAWS have to follow, and no reason is good enough legally to confront declaration of human rights especially not terms of a company.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights[/url])


 ;)



How is the Universal Declaration relevant? OP still has the right to work, just not with iStock, unfortunately for him.
Besides, this has to do with a partnership, not employment.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on November 11, 2014, 17:33
Israel and Iraq are long time enemies of Iran, and if Iran nukes up, then all hell could potentially break lose in the Middle East.
Iraq USED to be an enemy of Iran, but by toppling Saddam and introducing elections into the Shia majority country Bush made it part of the Iranian sphere of influence.  That's the reason ISIS has managed to split the country and I'm sure its a major reason for the Syrian war (the Shia arc of influence from the Indian Ocean to the Med, once Iran, Iraq and Syria were all on the same side being too much for Saudi and the West to swallow).
"Democratic countries" is really just a synonym for "the West", since almost every time democracy rears its ugly head in countries that aren't culturally Western the US and its friends step in to chop that head off. The US and UK toppled the democratic government of Mosaddeq in Iran in 1953 (he wanted Iran to own its own oil) and transformed the Shah into a dictator. In Algeria, the West prevented the FIS taking power, triggering a decade of civil war that killed 200,000 people (more than so far in Syria, but the Western media showed no interest at all in that). In Palestine, Israel and the US did everything possible to drive out Hamas, after it won a free and fair election. In Egypt the West backed Field Marshal Sisi's coup against the fairly elected Muslim Brotherhood government. In Iraq, the US has pushed out the President and installed a replacement who fits more with their idea of what the Iraqi leader should be like.... and then there is South America.

Democracy is simply a system designed to provide a stable environment for the countries it evolved in and it works because you and I and the political elite have been brought up with a set of unwritten rules - such as not attempting to physically annihilate the opposition if you have got power - that aren't part of the culture of other societies.  It isn't democracy that makes the West take what you consider to be "saner" decisions, it's an outcome of a way of thinking that has developed over centuries.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: YadaYadaYada on November 11, 2014, 18:57
@Ramin: What did the October 7 email say?

When the politics and hate take a break, we never got an answer to the question. What did theOctober 7 email said? We don't have the answer that started a political war on an assumed guess.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Lizard on November 11, 2014, 19:04
UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS
Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 23.

(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.


iStock's EASA
11 a "... Stockphoto may ... terminate this Agreement ... for any reason by giving you thirty (30) days notice by e-mail at the last address contained in your membership information. ..."
(as contributors can)



Sorry but you are quoting the highest legal agreement of them all, the one all others agreements including LAWS have to follow, and no reason is good enough legally to confront declaration of human rights especially not terms of a company.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights[/url])


 ;)



How is the Universal Declaration relevant? OP still has the right to work, just not with iStock, unfortunately for him.
Besides, this has to do with a partnership, not employment.


Are you for real?  Certain company dumps a person from "partnership" and the only reason is his nationality or place where he lives?

What does it have to do with human rights you ask?

Well it reminded me of a case where certain ethnic group couldn't use a public bus, well, actually they could only they had to stick at the back.

I bet at that time you would say...unfortunately for them...but they can still ride at the back.

Besides,it has to do with human spirit inside a person not with a law book  ;)
 
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on November 11, 2014, 19:08
@Ramin: What did the October 7 email say?

When the politics and hate take a break, we never got an answer to the question. What did theOctober 7 email said? We don't have the answer that started a political war on an assumed guess.

In reply 46 he said he never received the promised e-mail of October 7.

I'm not sure where the political war is - all I see is different perspectives that people have.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: YadaYadaYada on November 11, 2014, 19:15
@Ramin: What did the October 7 email say?

When the politics and hate take a break, we never got an answer to the question. What did theOctober 7 email said? We don't have the answer that started a political war on an assumed guess.

In reply 46 he said he never received the promised e-mail of October 7.

I'm not sure where the political war is - all I see is different perspectives that people have.

All of this is based on a guess, including the personal attacks about politics? Never got the email. Didn't do anything wrong. No reason. Just assumes he knows and starts accusing the reason. Some more start guessing it's the fault of the US. Now we talk nukes and politics not the question why the account was closed?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on November 11, 2014, 19:31
@Ramin: What did the October 7 email say?

When the politics and hate take a break, we never got an answer to the question. What did theOctober 7 email said? We don't have the answer that started a political war on an assumed guess.

In reply 46 he said he never received the promised e-mail of October 7.

I'm not sure where the political war is - all I see is different perspectives that people have.

All of this is based on a guess, including the personal attacks about politics? Never got the email. Didn't do anything wrong. No reason. Just assumes he knows and starts accusing the reason. Some more start guessing it's the fault of the US. Now we talk nukes and politics not the question why the account was closed?

Apparently the name of Iran has been expunged from the country list and other accounts from there seem to have been closed too, which - if true -  makes it a political action not a violation of the terms and conditions. The only obvious reason for Iran-based contributors suddenly being dumped and the country's name being deleted is that there are international sanctions against Iran because of its nuclear programme.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: gostwyck on November 11, 2014, 19:39
Your first line shows your ignorance. If you even say or think differently, anything other than pro government, you disappear. Democracy out of fear for never seeing your kids again. Thats not a democracy in my book.

Vapid nonsense as usual from you. Stating 'facts' without any sources or relevance to the topic. Isn't it about time you 'regenerated' yourself again with yet another user name to cover your tracks?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Hobostocker on November 11, 2014, 22:58
from today's BBC :

Russia to build Iran atomic reactors at Bushehr
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30015464 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30015464)

Russia has agreed to build up to eight nuclear reactors in Iran, 12 days before a deadline for a deal to curb Iran's nuclear activity.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Hobostocker on November 11, 2014, 23:10
But all this aside, how can we help the OP? If leaving your country is not an option (and why should it be), perhaps you just have to consider going independent and uploading to those sites that have no political biases in this matter.

all he can do is finding a way to open a bank account in any EU country or at least in Turkey or in a Gulf state, maybe he has a relative living in Dubai or whatever .. of course it must be somebody he can trust 100%.

there are online companies doing this dodgy business of opening fake US or EU bank accounts but they're all scams as far as i know.

said that, tourists can open legitimate bank accounts in several asian countries, for instance HongKong, Singapore, Malaysia, Cambodia, and maybe also Macau.

however, if IS is banning accounts just for being an Iranian national this won't help and he will need somebody else to open an account for him.

last chance, opening an LLC company in HongKong, will take just 7 days and costs a pittance, you don't need to be a resident, same goes for UK and Switzerland and many other places, i guess Dubai is his best option for these things.

in any case there's plenty of options for him as long as the amount of cash coming in is worth the hassle of these legal loopholes.

Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Hobostocker on November 11, 2014, 23:14
Israel and Iraq are long time enemies of Iran, and if Iran nukes up, then all hell could potentially break lose in the Middle East.

Iran's only friends are Sirya and Russia and don't worry, nobody will dare moving a finger against Iran anytime soon, especially Israel and Pakistan.

Once Iran becomes a full member of SCO it will be game over for the US/Israel warmongering plans, actually Putin already talked about this topic making clear that Iran is untouchable and is a strategic partner, that means "don't F-u-ck with Iran or else ..."


Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Beppe Grillo on November 12, 2014, 03:40
I personally would prefer that there were no nukes, but at the very least best in the hands of true democracies. Iran, as many have mentioned above, is definitely not a democracy.
Till today only one country in the world has used the atomic bomb against people, and this country pretend to export/impose (most of the time using the force)  his model of democracy…  So, tell me what is a true democracy?

In truth there is no such thing as a true democracy but those that strive towards that, have the force of their people to answer to, and as such, make 'saner' decisions. Albeit, not always .. and as you have pointed out, some that many don't agree with, as with enforcing the end to WWII.

If you are voting me down because you think I am pro-USA, then you need to watch that YouTube video I posted ... which pretty much sums up what Australians really think :)) lol

On the other hand, the way I look at it is, if the USA were not the self-appointed Leaders of the Free World, than who would be? Perhaps we should think about that. Perhaps its a matter of better the devil we know, than the devil we dont.

No, I vote you up because agree with your point of view.
Only one point I don't really agree, the one about the end of WWII. Yes in Europe we have to thanks Americans, Canadians, Australians for their contribution, but I think that the part of Russia is absolutely not to neglect too, and that without Russia, even with the help of USA & C., the war was lost for Europe. But of course things went in another way and we cannot really know.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Lightrecorder on November 12, 2014, 06:09
Your first line shows your ignorance. If you even say or think differently, anything other than pro government, you disappear. Democracy out of fear for never seeing your kids again. Thats not a democracy in my book.

Vapid nonsense as usual from you. Stating 'facts' without any sources or relevance to the topic. Isn't it about time you 'regenerated' yourself again with yet another user name to cover your tracks?
The majority here thinks you have it wrong, not just me. the fact that you choose to attack instead of focus on the fact you have it wrong speaks volumes. Judging from your comments, you seem to have beef with more people, maybe its time to face the mirror.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Milleflore on November 12, 2014, 07:13
I personally would prefer that there were no nukes, but at the very least best in the hands of true democracies. Iran, as many have mentioned above, is definitely not a democracy.
Till today only one country in the world has used the atomic bomb against people, and this country pretend to export/impose (most of the time using the force)  his model of democracy…  So, tell me what is a true democracy?

In truth there is no such thing as a true democracy but those that strive towards that, have the force of their people to answer to, and as such, make 'saner' decisions. Albeit, not always .. and as you have pointed out, some that many don't agree with, as with enforcing the end to WWII.

If you are voting me down because you think I am pro-USA, then you need to watch that YouTube video I posted ... which pretty much sums up what Australians really think :)) lol

On the other hand, the way I look at it is, if the USA were not the self-appointed Leaders of the Free World, than who would be? Perhaps we should think about that. Perhaps its a matter of better the devil we know, than the devil we dont.

No, I vote you up because agree with your point of view.
Only one point I don't really agree, the one about the end of WWII. Yes in Europe we have to thanks Americans, Canadians, Australians for their contribution, but I think that the part of Russia is absolutely not to neglect too, and that without Russia, even with the help of USA & C., the war was lost for Europe. But of course things went in another way and we cannot really know.

I agree with you that Russia, as with all the allies, were a very important contribution to the end of WWII in Europe. However my comments above were in reference to your earlier point: "Till today only one country in the world has used the atomic bomb against people" ... I was assuming that you meant USA dropping the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki to force Japan to surrender and thus finally putting an end to WWII in the Pacific as well. That's what I meant by "[USA] enforcing the end to WWII."
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Milleflore on November 12, 2014, 07:36
To Beppe Grillo:

A few years ago, I read the book, The Fall of Berlin 1945, which detailed the full impact of the Soviet army in WWII. So, yes, I totally agree with you about their significance in ending the war in Europe.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on November 12, 2014, 10:13
Try this search, and try to see any of the portfolios of the members that the search returns:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22+contributor (https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22+contributor)
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: fritz on November 12, 2014, 10:46
As I see all accounts are suspended! What the fYck is going on?
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: ShadySue on November 12, 2014, 10:49
As I see all accounts are suspended! What the fYck is going on?

Have you read the earlier parts of this thread?
Specifically Reply #10: http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/istock-closed-my-account-because-i%27m-from-%27iran%27/msg399103/#msg399103 (http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/istock-closed-my-account-because-i%27m-from-%27iran%27/msg399103/#msg399103)
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on November 12, 2014, 11:08
Don't worry, though.  They still want to take money from Iranian buyers:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22-contributor#q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22-contributor+%22member+since%22&filter=0 (https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22-contributor#q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22-contributor+%22member+since%22&filter=0)
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on November 12, 2014, 11:20
Don't worry, though.  They still want to take money from Iranian buyers:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22-contributor#q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22-contributor+%22member+since%22&filter=0 (https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22-contributor#q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22-contributor+%22member+since%22&filter=0)

Which suggests they have been banned from remitting money to Iran but not from accepting it from there - or maybe buyers will be able to use up existing credits but not get new ones (I'm quite sure that this is nothing to do with iStock itself, they'd be willing to take money from anyone, almost any business would. So they've been given instructions by some sort of authority, whether it's come down from Getty, as a notice from the bank or via a visit from Men In Black.)
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Dook on November 12, 2014, 12:07
Try this search, and try to see any of the portfolios of the members that the search returns:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22+contributor (https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22+contributor)
Good find Sean.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 12, 2014, 15:24
Try this search, and try to see any of the portfolios of the members that the search returns:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22+contributor (https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22+contributor)

So Thanks dear Sean,

And also you can visit my removed gallery:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22Ramin-3D%22+contributor&biw=1297&bih=919&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=w91jVJLoJPHG7AaMu4HYCw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ (https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22Ramin-3D%22+contributor&biw=1297&bih=919&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=w91jVJLoJPHG7AaMu4HYCw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ)

The governments are liars. They say that will boycott the other government but people are victim. Those who have stolen huge money in Iran, travel freely to other countries (To US & Ca & UK). Money solve everything for them, Even if it is stolen money.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Ramin on November 12, 2014, 15:28
@Ramin: What did the October 7 email say?

When the politics and hate take a break, we never got an answer to the question. What did theOctober 7 email said? We don't have the answer that started a political war on an assumed guess.

In reply 46 he said he never received the promised e-mail of October 7.

I'm not sure where the political war is - all I see is different perspectives that people have.

Thanks for reply,  :)
Yes, I never received any email on October 7th.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: cobalt on November 12, 2014, 17:12
So Sean solved the original question. Thank you! 😀
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: ferdinand on November 13, 2014, 03:02
^
You can vote for who you want it will not change absolutely nothing.
It is GodMoney* commanding here…


*Federal Bank, Rockefeller, Rothschild and friends…

little late in this discussion  - just to add :
yes, if democracy could make any real changes - it would not be permitted ...

sorry to hear about this closing of accounts - new cold war in world
 
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Hobostocker on November 13, 2014, 03:53
sorry to hear about this closing of accounts - new cold war in world


Kissinger warns of West’s ‘fatal mistake’ that may lead to new Cold War
http://rt.com/news/203795-kissinger-warns-cold-war/ (http://rt.com/news/203795-kissinger-warns-cold-war/)


even a war criminal like Kissinger agrees that NATO is going off the rails.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Hobostocker on November 13, 2014, 03:55
Try this search, and try to see any of the portfolios of the members that the search returns:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22+contributor (https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22+contributor)

they're ALL gone.

well, this is very very very unprofessional, at the very least they should have managed all this mess in a better way, just another sign that IS is going down the drain.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: Justanotherphotographer on November 13, 2014, 04:39
Thanks for clearing that up. Sorry for being too cautious.

That sucks for you, my sympathies. I wonder if IS had any choice about this? I imagine they were forced to do it as there's no advantage in it for them.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: ShadySue on November 13, 2014, 05:21
I wonder if IS had any choice about this?

There are currently sanctions against Iran due to the ongoing nuclear program issues.
I don't know if these affect all trade but maybe you are a victim of the companies just trying to make sure they aren't seen to be trading with Iran.
[url]http://www.international.gc.ca/sanctions/iran.aspx?lang=eng[/url] ([url]http://www.international.gc.ca/sanctions/iran.aspx?lang=eng[/url])
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: gc85 on November 13, 2014, 11:56
My sympathies, Ramin.
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: etudiante_rapide on November 13, 2014, 11:59
would agree with JAP ...ie. not IStock , it's your own people over there.

just wait another generation, and Istock will allow u back in.
remember, if the walls did not come down, ... the Yuris, Dolgachov, Serbian , dreamstime,etc would have their accounts closed as well.
go a little further back in time, and you would probably read that xxx closed xxx account because (I am from )...  Vietnam... Japan... Germany...

as Dylan said, "times are a - changing". 
wait another generation  ;)
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: ShadySue on November 13, 2014, 12:21
Try this search, and try to see any of the portfolios of the members that the search returns:
https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22+contributor (https://www.google.com/search?q=site:istockphoto.com+%22country:+iran%22+contributor)

they're ALL gone.

well, this is very very very unprofessional, at the very least they should have managed all this mess in a better way, just another sign that IS is going down the drain.

Can the OP let us know how the other agencies he mentioned in his OP handled it? Looks like iS 'forgot' to send the original email (like they often don't seem to get round to sending emails telling people about refunds, particularly GI refunds).
Title: Re: iStock closed my account, because I'm from "Iran".
Post by: miladin14 on November 13, 2014, 17:37
1. step: Find out how you can register a limited liability company in EU states / India, there you are on safe ground.
2. step: Register a company/agency. It should be cheap.
3. step: Transfer all copyright from your name to the company, owned by you (or by your person of trust)
4. step: Newly established company should present the ownership contract to the iStock and other agencies and
There are no legal obstacles which should harm this process UNLESS agencies decide not to accept the existing images and allocate them to new owner (they should do so, since they did the same thing with Yuri and several others)
5. step: Remain selling.