Author Topic: iStock downtrend (Read 6840 times)

luissantos84 · « **on:** June 25, 2013, 20:02 »

this chart doesn't include PP sales but they are also down by 50%

yes, I know my sales are small (irrelevant), anyway just wanted to share it

tickstock · « **Reply #1 on:** June 25, 2013, 20:34 »

luissantos84 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 25, 2013, 21:02 »

Quote from: tickstock on June 25, 2013, 20:34

There is no chart but it looks like you have uploaded 3 files in the last 15 months, what do you expect?

have I said I expected anything? I am just telling what is going on my side, take a chill pill dude

bring the minus, not even going to sleep coz of that

pancaketom · « **Reply #3 on:** June 25, 2013, 21:25 »

That "chart" doesn't include PP sales or IS sales as far as I can see. In fact I can't see any chart at all.

Tryingmybest · « **Reply #4 on:** June 25, 2013, 21:42 »

Interesting. But mine have been growing. This month, however, was really low. Yet I cannot help but wonder if you kept uploading it would be much different.

Quote from: luissantos84 on June 25, 2013, 20:02

this chart doesn't include PP sales but they are also down by 50%

yes, I know my sales are small (irrelevant), anyway just wanted to share it

luissantos84 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 25, 2013, 21:47 »

indeed, hard to know but I risk saying it would have gone up mainly due to my low figures not because of other factors, anyway that wasn't my decision

sharpshot · « **Reply #6 on:** June 26, 2013, 00:45 »

Personally, I can't think of a good reason for non-exclusives to keep uploading. It sends a message that we're willing to put up with commissions under 20% and deals like the Google one. The other big sites will have a great excuse to bring their commissions in line with istock. I'd much rather see buyers moving to other sites because they can't find what they want on istock and that wont happen with every non-exclusive uploading all they can. Not uploading might lose me some money and it might make absolutely no difference but I'm willing to take that risk, as there's really not much to lose. With the new upload limits and loss of P+, our earnings are going to get diluted and many of us will also get another commission cut.

ShadySue · « **Reply #7 on:** June 26, 2013, 04:36 »

Quote from: tickstock on June 25, 2013, 20:34

There is no chart but it looks like you have uploaded 3 files in the last 15 months, what do you expect?

Most stuff uploaded since Sept has gone into the abyss and files uploaded say from June - Aug were hit by summer and had little chance also.
I've looked in several big hitters' ports and the same pattern of no/low sales for the past 6-9 months files is evident in most of them, with very low sales for uploads in that period, so definitely not just us small fry.

grsphoto · « **Reply #8 on:** June 26, 2013, 07:25 »

Quote from: sharpshot on June 26, 2013, 00:45

Personally, I can't think of a good reason for non-exclusives to keep uploading.

For better or for worse, iStock still has sales, even for my (very) small portfolio

I can upload to all the other sites, and make no money for my effort, or I can upload to iStock and make some money.

50% of $0 = 0
20% of $1= .20

Until my Symbiostock sites generate the same or better return ( where I get 100% commission) I will put my images and effort into what pays.

lisafx · « **Reply #9 on:** June 26, 2013, 11:21 »

I haven't uploaded to IS since January, but even if I were inclined to start uploading again, Liz's observations about the fate of new images would have dissuaded me. No point putting in all that effort just to watch the images fade into obscurity.

farbled · « **Reply #10 on:** June 26, 2013, 12:13 »

I pulled my small port after the Google deal, I just can't risk my best sellers on the off chance that they get included in that or something similar. I tried to keep informed about how that all worked out but I can't force myself to read all the pages on that forum, plus the (very unbusiness-like) way info is communicated there makes me hesitant to want to be part of that again. Besides that, I have neither the time or energy trying to keep track of the convoluted way their tiers, collections and programs work. I read some of the istock strings here and it just sounds like way too much work for too small a return for non-exclusives with smaller ports like me.

Digital66 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 26, 2013, 13:18 »

Quote from: grsphoto on June 26, 2013, 07:25

Quote from: sharpshot on June 26, 2013, 00:45
Personally, I can't think of a good reason for non-exclusives to keep uploading.

For better or for worse, iStock still has sales, even for my (very) small portfolio

I can upload to all the other sites, and make no money for my effort, or I can upload to iStock and make some money.

50% of $0 = 0
20% of $1= .20

Until my Symbiostock sites generate the same or better return ( where I get 100% commission) I will put my images and effort into what pays.

In your case not even 20%. But I guess you are happy with your 15%. And honestly, your 6 sales in six months is the same as nothing.

Sharpshot is right, there is no good reason for non-exclusives to keep uploading.

Ron · « **Reply #12 on:** June 26, 2013, 13:43 »

Its not a trend Louis, its a dip. Just get your Istock sales on the graph over the last 10 years and you will see its just a dip, not a trend. Nothing wrong, its just a long weekend.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 26, 2013, 14:15 »

Quote from: Ron on June 26, 2013, 13:43

Its not a trend Louis, its a dip. Just get your Istock sales on the graph over the last 10 years and you will see its just a dip, not a trend. Nothing wrong, its just a long weekend.

semantics again?

Xanox · « **Reply #14 on:** June 26, 2013, 17:27 »

soon it will be more profitable to upload on RedBubble/Cafepress/Zazzle rather than IS.

Monkeyman · « **Reply #15 on:** June 26, 2013, 17:32 »

My sales are going down quite a lot... June will be really bad. Probably my worst month ever as exclusive.

It's not fun to be a full time microstocker right now... I don't have any other income. I guess I will have to start dancing in the streets for money this fall.

lisafx · « **Reply #16 on:** June 26, 2013, 17:32 »

Quote from: Xanox on June 26, 2013, 17:27

soon it will be more profitable to upload on RedBubble/Cafepress/Zazzle rather than IS.

It already is according to some of the people I talk to.

Ron · « **Reply #17 on:** June 26, 2013, 17:35 »

I see sarcasm is wasted on some people here

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #18 on:** June 26, 2013, 17:49 »

Quote from: Ron on June 26, 2013, 17:35

I see sarcasm is wasted on some people here

Sarcasm on the internet leaves a lot of room for misinterpretation.

ShadySue · « **Reply #19 on:** June 26, 2013, 18:53 »

I just did a best match search on monkey two baby. Shocking results. 4 of the top 9 are not monkeys, then the next 67, that's sixty-seven pics are one meerkat (close similars from two viewpoints) - not even close to 'monkey', not 'two' and all from an indie. After that, the page is a mixture of apes, monkeys and lemurs, almost all from indies.

Depressing.

dingles · « **Reply #20 on:** June 26, 2013, 20:31 »

Nothing worst than getting a group of the same photoshoot with just variations of the same thing in one search...not just an iStock issue.

ShadySue · « **Reply #21 on:** June 26, 2013, 20:33 »

Quote from: dingles on June 26, 2013, 20:31

Nothing worst than getting a group of the same photoshoot with just variations of the same thing in one search...not just an iStock issue.

... and wrongly keyworded, also not confined to iStock.
Again gives the lie to Lobo's claim that Exclusives will get priority. Always. Period.

The first 15 for animal river are also indie, 0 dls between them.

EmberMike · « **Reply #22 on:** June 26, 2013, 22:28 »

It's been a long time since I could say this, but I'm actually seeing an uptick in earnings at istock. Nothing solid enough to call a trend just yet, and possibly just the result of the reinstated 20% rate for vector folks, but there are signs of life. I'm uploading some of my new stuff, not all, and will be watching the stats in the coming months to see if things continue upward.

pancaketom · « **Reply #23 on:** June 26, 2013, 22:41 »

Quote from: EmberMike on June 26, 2013, 22:28

It's been a long time since I could say this, but I'm actually seeing an uptick in earnings at istock. Nothing solid enough to call a trend just yet, and possibly just the result of the reinstated 20% rate for vector folks, but there are signs of life. I'm uploading some of my new stuff, not all, and will be watching the stats in the coming months to see if things continue upward.

Back up to 20% could make a difference plus it could be they have a new merit based best match right now and they haven't changed it to suit their own purposes YET.

Ron · « **Reply #24 on:** June 27, 2013, 01:52 »

I balanced out the minus on your post Mike. I think some trigger happy children got on to the boards recently.

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