Quote from: ShadySue on November 18, 2013, 19:01

Quote from: icefront on November 18, 2013, 18:50

Thanks for posting - received in the newsletter too.
The same old ahhh's ohhh's on the forum, but there is nothing new :-)
The wrong keyword abbreviation still isn't fixed, however I really expected that this system receives an update...
(Example: cutter - Cutting (Moving Activity) | Cutter Insect Repellant (Insect Repellant); How do I mean cutter = work tool?)

I've never heard about a cutter, [�]

https://encrypted.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=cutter&tbs=imgo:1&sout=1

Do you call it "utility knife" in pure english?

Personally, I'd call it a Stanley Knife, just like I call our Vacuum cleaner a Hoover (even though it's a Bosch). If it's a box cutter, I'd call it a box cutter.

Never heard of the term 'utility knife', but on Googling, a lot of Stanley knives showed up, so I guess so.

Quote from: ShadySue on November 19, 2013, 04:33

Nowadays, in similar non-CV examples, you'd have to do the same even more, because the bug I noted a couple of weeks back whereby trying to add a two (or more) word phrase 'for your own use' hasn't been fixed (as of yesterday), so even searching on the phrase inside quotes won't return the file.

Seems fine. Perhaps it is an issue at your end. Eg -

"sandwich tern"

'sandwich tern'

In terms of the keywords and CV terms you would like added, why not try to work with them towards a positive outcome ? I am sure you would have a lot to add.

Of course, "sandwich tern" is fine, as it's been a legacy term for years.
It's new (as I said) two word phrases that don't 'stick', over the past couple of weeks, as confirmed by CR, who say they've passed it on to be dealt with. I've seen the length of bugs they have to sort through from months ago, and wouldn't expect it to be top of their list.

As you well know, I'm banned from the forums and sitemail, so have to go via CR.

I wonder why that news letter has different fonts and sizes? First thing I do when I see an email like that sent to a customer is tell the person who wrote it to clean up their act and email. One font, one size, one color (except when color is needed to emphasize). Same goes for people having signatures in Comic Sans.

I've only got black (other than links) headlines and body text, though the spacing is 'off'.

Mine showed up with a variety of font sizes and bolds.  Looked very amateurish.  It also seemed to launch into a topics randomly without any introduction as if it was notes from a meeting just copy and pasted.

Inhauscreative gave this piece of advice, which, while correct practice, won't help at the moment:
"when naming something with proper name i.e. "Eagle Crown Beatle" (made it up) list the whole name,  add only the individual words if it applies, so it's a picture of an EAGLE CROWN BEATLE, Eagle by itself doesn't work, Crown by itself doesnt work, but Beatle does, so add Eagle Crown Beatle, and Beatle as keywords, but not Eagle and Crown."
Sadly Eagle Crown Beatle won't be searchable in any form if you add it this moment, because of the non-CV, non-legacy bug affecting .
Note the difference between Millionaire Shortbread, which is already a legacy term, and Eagle Crown Beatle, which, of course, isn't. When it offered me the chance to add it 'for my own use', I did so, but the change didn't 'take' (the bug I noticed a couple of weeks ago and was confirmed by CR). Pity the bug happened just before there was a drive of sorts towards better keywording:

Note, no '! in a triangle', which is the indication that the phrase will not be searchable.
NB: I thought this only affected keyword phrases, but I just tested 'spingleplonk' with the same result.

Also watch out for the English language-changing buglet. On Monday I uploaded a file and a friend kindly pointed out an appalling keyword. I was astonished, and upon checking, I discovered that somewhere between my uploading and the file being accepted, my keywords had changed into English (US) so that word had mapped to a totally different meaning. There is no way I'd have missed this while keywording.
Just checked, and a different file which I uploaded yesterday has all its keywords as English (US) except for the species name in Scientific 'Latin', which is listed as English (British)  , but in this case, no harm ensued.
I just uploaded a file just now, looked carefully and at the point of uploading, the keywords were all tagged English (British), so we'll see whether the buglet has been fixed.