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« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2010, 11:01 »
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I'd like to hear forum friends.

Since F5 was running, my sales drop to dead. Specially now in November. You think there is a relationship between F5 and sales drop? Because search issues, interface issues, etc, etc, etc.

Nope.  I had my best week ever last week.


« Reply #51 on: November 22, 2010, 11:32 »
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I'm sure my absolute number was a hair lower than Sean's, but I too had a best week ever last week.

« Reply #52 on: November 22, 2010, 11:36 »
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Well, i'm a illustrator, you know, that kind of Istock beggar...

ShadySue

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« Reply #53 on: November 22, 2010, 11:39 »
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I had two very good days (for $$$, dls are spiralling downhill) and three truly awful days. Today only one sale so far (I checked, and the corresponding Monday in 09 and 08 were good). Weird, huh?
Anyway, I think I've worked out the obivious solution to all the site problems. All the adverts for jobs in the web development area say, "cutting edge, please". Maybe it's all too far over that edge. Maybe really strong standard skills would be a safer/better bet.
But to be honest, I can't imagine why, having made a mistake, the developers don't fix it. I'd do it as a point of honour, even in my own time, if it were me.
Never mind, they're all really happy at their jobs. They all just love working at iStock (according to Roger Mexico and Yeppers by JJRD), which, as was said on the thread, must mean they who cause the problems aren't going to be penalised by getting pay cuts.

« Reply #54 on: November 22, 2010, 12:09 »
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im an illustrator too and after the f5... my sales dropped 25%. really worrisome trend. The only positive thing we had going b4 the f5 was our complex files got the vetta bump. they take that away from us too. Our files are now buried under agency and vetta. Im an exclusive there but that is almost meaningless since i am a second rate exclusive in that club and i believe for profits sake, istock is slowly closing its doors for the majority of the contributors that that gave their success. Now they are letting in others and giving them the exclusive crown special status and uploads thousands of agency images at once which immediately shoots to the top of the broken searches that only shows agency stuff.
Crazy times on istock... Lets stay on that crazy line and lets pretend for a second i was istock . My desperation for more sustained profits leads me to create an f5 update where I have the ability to tweek the best match to my favor. Can i write code that automatically puts a certain contributors files 200-500 images down the regular search order? What if its certain contributors that are very close to their next target level for next year which will result in thousands of dollars difference.
I was on track to get to the 35% for vectors there when they announced that fiasco. All i have is speculations since there is lack of transparency

ShadySue

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« Reply #55 on: November 22, 2010, 12:58 »
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Can i write code that automatically puts a certain contributors files 200-500 images down the regular search order?
There does seem to be some sort of 'person' weighting in the PR. But nothing like as obvious or obnoxious as it was, briefly, several months back.

« Reply #56 on: November 22, 2010, 13:10 »
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im an illustrator too and after the f5... my sales dropped 25%. really worrisome trend. The only positive thing we had going b4 the f5 was our complex files got the vetta bump. they take that away from us too. Our files are now buried under agency and vetta.

Things for illustrators appear to have been one setback after another in the last couple of years - were you around in 2008 when illustrations went to the back of the bus in the best match? The only good news on the removal from Vetta is that there are a number of people who are still in Vetta complaining that their sales are down after the price increases (can't comment on that as I withdrew from Vetta and turned Agency off after they said it'd have to go to Getty as well as IS; no opt out).

There was supposed to be something new and cool for illustrators, promised when they pulled illustrations from Vetta, but AFAIK we've heard no more on what or when on that.

Certainly the outside Agency contributor who got 1800+ files onto IS in a few weeks has seen some sales (it just says >200, not exact number) - perhaps the Agency content at the top of all searches as much as the Vetta price increases has caused the drop in Vetta DLs?

« Reply #57 on: November 22, 2010, 13:22 »
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im an illustrator too and after the f5... my sales dropped 25%. really worrisome trend. The only positive thing we had going b4 the f5 was our complex files got the vetta bump. they take that away from us too. Our files are now buried under agency and vetta.

Things for illustrators appear to have been one setback after another in the last couple of years - were you around in 2008 when illustrations went to the back of the bus in the best match?

In a good day, around 2007/2008, it's not so rare something like 40 downloads/day. And less than 10 downloads/day are a really bad day. Except for weekends. Today, 5 downloads/day is a good day.

In 2007/2008 my portfolio has around 100 illos. Now, 2010,  above 400 illos. Sad.

« Reply #58 on: November 22, 2010, 14:17 »
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Never mind, they're all really happy at their jobs. They all just love working at iStock (according to Roger Mexico and Yeppers by JJRD), which, as was said on the thread, must mean they who cause the problems aren't going to be penalised by getting pay cuts.

ROFL. Now it's that kind of attitude that got you kicked off their happy woo-yay forums.

« Reply #59 on: November 22, 2010, 14:38 »
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were you around in 2008 when illustrations went to the back of the bus in the best match?

I was a buyer for years and only starting contributing around 2008

« Reply #60 on: November 26, 2010, 10:55 »
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Update to include Fixes Released Nov 24.

- F5 fiasco
- Logo program fiasco
- Agency collection start fiasco
- Business card eternal fiasco
- EL percentage reduction fiasco
- Agency search fiasco
- Magical mystery changing vector prices fiasco
- A old and good live stats fiasco
- Partner Program fiasco. Once you're in you will never get out.
- Support tickets long times to response fiasco.
- Search engine Agency pics fiasco.
- Vector dudes are second rate contributors now fiasco.
- XXXL size removals fiasco.
- Fixes Released Nov 24 fiasco

« Reply #61 on: November 26, 2010, 12:19 »
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You still don't have the stockys fiasco included, despite it's being mentioned twice. Maybe we are on ignore?   ;)

« Reply #62 on: November 26, 2010, 12:31 »
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You still don't have the stockys fiasco included, despite it's being mentioned twice. Maybe we are on ignore?   ;)

Oh, sorry. My personal fiasco.

Update to include Fixes Released Nov 24.

- F5 fiasco
- Logo program fiasco
- Agency collection start fiasco
- Business card eternal fiasco
- EL percentage reduction fiasco
- Agency search fiasco
- Magical mystery changing vector prices fiasco
- A old and good live stats fiasco
- Partner Program fiasco. Once you're in you will never get out.
- Support tickets long times to response fiasco.
- Search engine Agency pics fiasco.
- Vector dudes are second rate contributors now fiasco.
- XXXL size removals fiasco.
- Fixes Released Nov 24 fiasco
- Stockys fiasco

ShadySue

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« Reply #63 on: November 26, 2010, 14:28 »
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You still don't have the stockys fiasco included, despite it's being mentioned twice. Maybe we are on ignore?   ;)
Nor the fiasco where they announced the 'editorial' iStockalypse in Istanbul, then have not provided an outlet for the images taken there.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2010, 16:02 by ShadySue »

« Reply #64 on: November 26, 2010, 15:54 »
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Oh, sorry. My personal fiasco.

LOL!  :D   No problem. Might as well have as complete a list as possible!

« Reply #65 on: November 27, 2010, 09:16 »
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Update to include Fixes Released Nov 24.

- Fixes Released Nov 24 fiasco

No way. I haven't been following along. The fixes are a fiasco too? ROFL.

ETA: Just skimmed that thread. It seems like the fixes broke more stuff than it fixed. So the question that needs to be asked is, are the breaks all in iStock's favor again? With misreporting of redeemed credits and miscalculated royalites/redeemed credits? Hmmm...
« Last Edit: November 27, 2010, 09:26 by caspixel »

« Reply #66 on: November 27, 2010, 09:55 »
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Yeah, I don't understand why they can't put the EL column on the same page as all the other info in My Uploads. Sean's script works perfect...why can't they just duplicate that? So clunky to have to go to a different section (Financials page).

And they still haven't added the info whereby we know exactly how much the client paid for the credits and what percentage we got. For instance, my last EL paid me $17.55 for 125 credits. So either I got less than 20% or the client paid about $.70 per credit. Not good.

But then again, I doubt that info will ever be forthcoming. After all, we don't have any right to know how much money we are making!  >:(

« Reply #67 on: November 27, 2010, 09:58 »
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I'm sure my absolute number was a hair lower than Sean's, but I too had a best week ever last week.

I'm sure my numbers are a "fraction" lower than both of you, but also having a pretty good run at the moment.
 

« Reply #68 on: November 27, 2010, 10:01 »
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But then again, I doubt that info will ever be forthcoming. After all, we don't have any right to know how much money we are making!  >:(

Well, that is not what makes you happy, is it? Hanging out at such a cool place as iStock is the real reward, right? ;)

« Reply #69 on: November 27, 2010, 10:53 »
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I'm sure my absolute number was a hair lower than Sean's, but I too had a best week ever last week.

I'm sure my numbers are a "fraction" lower than both of you, but also having a pretty good run at the moment.
 

I'm sure my numbers are a "fraction of holgs fraction", but had BME, BDE, BHE this november.

« Reply #70 on: November 27, 2010, 11:27 »
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Never mind, they're all really happy at their jobs. They all just love working at iStock (according to Roger Mexico and Yeppers by JJRD), which, as was said on the thread, must mean they who cause the problems aren't going to be penalised by getting pay cuts.

ROFL. Now it's that kind of attitude that got you kicked off their happy woo-yay forums.
Somehow that 'yeppers' from JJRD pisses me off the most. Before the whole F5-royalties fiasco it was this dude who claimed he'd put his 'behind' on the line for us and 'if there were decisions threatening the community he'd leave'. After the announcement we get nothing from him anymore, not a single word....only this 'yeppers' from the top of his ivory tower about how exciting and fun it is to work for istock.
Empty words, empty promises.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2010, 11:29 by Artemis »

« Reply #71 on: November 27, 2010, 18:02 »
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Somehow that 'yeppers' from JJRD pisses me off the most. Before the whole F5-royalties fiasco it was this dude who claimed he'd put his 'behind' on the line for us and 'if there were decisions threatening the community he'd leave'. After the announcement we get nothing from him anymore, not a single word....only this 'yeppers' from the top of his ivory tower about how exciting and fun it is to work for istock.
Empty words, empty promises.

Yeppers!

« Reply #72 on: November 27, 2010, 18:08 »
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So when I do a search on the new and improved istock site, the contributors name, no. of downloads per image, etc. are gone. All it shows is the image no., an exclusive crown or E+ symbol and the lightbox symbol. How do I get the other info back, or have they removed it so it will never show? I looked around the control panel, but I'm just not finding that list that you used to be able to check the items you wanted to show.

« Reply #73 on: November 27, 2010, 18:10 »
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scroll down, under images left side --->display settings.

« Reply #74 on: November 27, 2010, 18:12 »
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but if you browse agency files, as of now, your chosen settings will be lost, and you are going to have to do it again.


 

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