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vlad_the_imp

« Reply #700 on: February 01, 2011, 02:53 »
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Warren Hellman may have said 'maximise profits', I don't think he said 're-design the site so it doesn't work properly then fail to fix it for weeks on end'.


« Reply #701 on: February 01, 2011, 03:25 »
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If you're squeezing everything, you reduce the staff, refuse to pay overtime, the staff have too much to do, lose motivation, don't work late or at weekends, and of course they can't say anything. Sound familiar?

vlad_the_imp

« Reply #702 on: February 01, 2011, 06:01 »
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If that is the case then that's also bad management. If you're trying to maximise profits what is happening at IS is not the way to do it. Squeeze contributors, OK, but at least have a smoothly functioning site to maximise sales. IS has always had tech problems since I've been a contributor, it's just that these feel worse at the moment.

« Reply #703 on: February 01, 2011, 10:28 »
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If that is the case then that's also bad management. If you're trying to maximise profits what is happening at IS is not the way to do it. Squeeze contributors, OK, but at least have a smoothly functioning site to maximise sales. IS has always had tech problems since I've been a contributor, it's just that these feel worse at the moment.

these are the worse I've seen since the 7 years I've been with iStock.  worse in terms that they have gone on and on gong on what, several months now?  I lost track.

« Reply #704 on: February 01, 2011, 16:03 »
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I haven't been with IS quite that long (just over 6 years) but I'd agree that this is by far the worst mess that site operations have been in.

I don't know if this is just all the cumulative past problems mounting up - you can only patch unstable old code for so long - or whether it's personnel problems, or outsourcing (to Getty or overseas) with poor communication.

As long as they get things functional, I'm not sure I need to care. Idle curiosity and a wish to estimate the likely time before it's all fixed mean I would like to know.

« Reply #705 on: February 01, 2011, 19:22 »
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It does seem more epic and across the board than anything I've seen before. They really crushed my income with a few of the best match shake ups but it always seemed like some other contributor was a winner there. This seems more global in its swath of damage, I don't know if it is even helping their bottom line, especially not in the long run.

« Reply #706 on: February 01, 2011, 19:45 »
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I haven't been with IS quite that long (just over 6 years) but I'd agree that this is by far the worst mess that site operations have been in.

I don't know if this is just all the cumulative past problems mounting up - you can only patch unstable old code for so long - or whether it's personnel problems, or outsourcing (to Getty or overseas) with poor communication.

As long as they get things functional, I'm not sure I need to care. Idle curiosity and a wish to estimate the likely time before it's all fixed mean I would like to know.

I was under the impression that the old code was the old site. F5 was built brand new, using different code. No?

« Reply #707 on: February 01, 2011, 21:22 »
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I was under the impression that the old code was the old site. F5 was built brand new, using different code. No?

I know a lot of things were new, but I don't think they ever said all the code was new. A lot of the UI changed, but I'll bet that not all of the back end functions did. It's always tempting to use the old stuff, particularly when you run into time constraints.

They're clearly struggling. I doubt they'll ever say publicly what the reasons are.

« Reply #708 on: February 01, 2011, 21:29 »
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I was under the impression that the old code was the old site. F5 was built brand new, using different code. No?

I know a lot of things were new, but I don't think they ever said all the code was new. A lot of the UI changed, but I'll bet that not all of the back end functions did. It's always tempting to use the old stuff, particularly when you run into time constraints.

They're clearly struggling. I doubt they'll ever say publicly what the reasons are.

Yeah. The funny thing is, THEY say the old site had problems, and I know there were times when they were down, but compared to F5...   ???

« Reply #709 on: February 01, 2011, 23:06 »
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Oh look. They are accepting submissions for editorial, with the expectation to launch in a few weeks. You can bet I'll be settling in with popcorn to watch the latest F5 chaos. :D

« Reply #710 on: February 07, 2011, 10:39 »
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okay, time to add to this list.  there's a "blank page" issue going on with the site.  i can only imagine a buyer experiencing this annoyance!
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=300722&page=2

« Reply #711 on: February 07, 2011, 10:42 »
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okay, time to add to this list.  there's a "blank page" issue going on with the site.  i can only imagine a buyer experiencing this annoyance!
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=300722&page=2


I can't believe how long the list of bugs is. Pathetic.

vlad_the_imp

« Reply #712 on: February 07, 2011, 10:57 »
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They are a bunch of incompetent fools I'm afraid. Hate to say it, because my income is in their hands at the moment, but a complete bunch of bumbling idiots. The site problems have been dragging on now for nearly 2 months and there are just as many bugs as when it started, many of them the same old ones that just constantly recur.

« Reply #713 on: February 07, 2011, 14:18 »
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so I sent a twitter message to @istock and they told me the blank pages (which appear to be fixed now) were caused by server issues:

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@JamiRae we had some bunk web servers.  We've taken them offline.  Should be fine now, but let me know if it persists

So I replied stating that I thought they had just gotten a bunch of new servers.  (Didn't they?  I mean, really if the hardware provider gave them junk, they should definitely be holding someone's butt to the fire. )

the reply to that was
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@JamiRae we have A LOT of hardware.  Statistically, some of them are bound to blow up from time to time.

okay, I didn't bother replying there because didn't think it warranted a back and forth after that.

But I'm thinking, again, "What Would Amazon Do?"  seriously, they have tons of servers and I can't remember the last time I went there and there was a technical glitch with the site.  And I am an Amazon regular.  A multi-million dollar company like iStock certainly should have backups and rollovers so that anytime something happens a backup server can quickly take over.  I sure wish they would use that 85% they are collecting off most sales and invest in TECHNICIANS who are experienced and knowledgeable in these things.

« Reply #714 on: February 07, 2011, 14:31 »
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But I'm thinking, again, "What Would Amazon Do?"  seriously, they have tons of servers and I can't remember the last time I went there and there was a technical glitch with the site.  And I am an Amazon regular.  A multi-million dollar company like iStock certainly should have backups and rollovers so that anytime something happens a backup server can quickly take over.  I sure wish they would use that 85% they are collecting off most sales and invest in TECHNICIANS who are experienced and knowledgeable in these things.

Do Istockphoto ever, ever, ever think "What Would Amazon Do?"? The way they operate their website I'm not even sure that they've heard of Amazon let alone actually used them. I might send them an Amazon gift voucher for a copy of "Websites for Dummies" to confuse their 'development team' That's a bit of a misnomer as development usually refers to things getting better rather than continuously worse.

« Reply #715 on: February 07, 2011, 14:39 »
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But I'm thinking, again, "What Would Amazon Do?"  seriously, they have tons of servers and I can't remember the last time I went there and there was a technical glitch with the site.  And I am an Amazon regular.  A multi-million dollar company like iStock certainly should have backups and rollovers so that anytime something happens a backup server can quickly take over.  I sure wish they would use that 85% they are collecting off most sales and invest in TECHNICIANS who are experienced and knowledgeable in these things.

Do Istockphoto ever, ever, ever think "What Would Amazon Do?"? The way they operate their website I'm not even sure that they've heard of Amazon let alone actually used them. I might send them an Amazon gift voucher for a copy of "Websites for Dummies" to confuse their 'development team' That's a bit of a misnomer as development usually refers to things getting better rather than continuously worse.

hahahaahaha!  ROTFLMAO!  ;D

ShadySue

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« Reply #716 on: February 07, 2011, 15:05 »
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I've also recommended in emails and support requests, that the developers should be made to read, "Don't Make Me Think", as they have no idea about Site Usability 101. If they had, they'd have designed their editorial upload page with fields in the order they wanted the information.

« Reply #717 on: February 07, 2011, 18:20 »
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Did anyone else see this post in the Independence Day forum that Brigit (StockCube) has?  Apparently there is a backlog and people who have cancelled their IS exclusivity have been waiting OVER the 30 day mark?  some are at 45 days and counting and IS has not changed their status yet.

http://the-independence-day-forum.983074.n3.nabble.com/iStock-mucks-up-the-works-td2444013.html

lisafx

« Reply #718 on: February 07, 2011, 20:14 »
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Did anyone else see this post in the Independence Day forum that Brigit (StockCube) has?  Apparently there is a backlog and people who have cancelled their IS exclusivity have been waiting OVER the 30 day mark?  some are at 45 days and counting and IS has not changed their status yet.

http://the-independence-day-forum.983074.n3.nabble.com/iStock-mucks-up-the-works-td2444013.html


OMG!!  Sorry, but I question whether this is really a backlog.  I certainly don't doubt that there are a ton of people wanting to drop the crown, but hard to believe this is not an automated process.  

Is there a thread about it on the Istock forums?  Can't seem to find one... :-X
« Last Edit: February 07, 2011, 20:19 by lisafx »

« Reply #719 on: February 07, 2011, 21:00 »
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This is total BS!!!! They are in violation of the terms of their own agreement with serious harm to contributors seeking to sell their images elsewhere.  I would be flipping out if it were me!

« Reply #720 on: February 07, 2011, 21:14 »
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I certainly wouldnt be concerned with their backlog.  The ASA says you may terminate the agreement by your action.  There is nothing about them pushing a button or anything.

"This Agreement is effective until terminated. You may terminate this Agreement with respect to the whole (but not part of) one or more of Photo Content, Illustration Content, Flash Content or Motion Content at any time by giving thirty (30) days written notice specifying the category or categories of Exclusive Content to which termination applies to iStockphoto using [[email protected]] or such other means of written notice acceptable to iStockphoto which enables confirmation of your identity and your intention to terminate."

If they have a problem, it's their fault because they are not fulfilling their agreement.  IMO.

« Reply #721 on: February 07, 2011, 21:24 »
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I certainly wouldnt be concerned with their backlog.  The ASA says you may terminate the agreement by your action.  There is nothing about them pushing a button or anything.

"This Agreement is effective until terminated. You may terminate this Agreement with respect to the whole (but not part of) one or more of Photo Content, Illustration Content, Flash Content or Motion Content at any time by giving thirty (30) days written notice specifying the category or categories of Exclusive Content to which termination applies to iStockphoto using [[email protected]] or such other means of written notice acceptable to iStockphoto which enables confirmation of your identity and your intention to terminate."

If they have a problem, it's their fault because they are not fulfilling their agreement.  IMO.

Absolutely. If they continue to pay you as an exclusive then that's their problem. Upload away and enjoy the extra income.

« Reply #722 on: February 09, 2011, 17:41 »
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Seems there's a bug with the logos uploads now. Hard to believe people are still uploading logos with the epic fail that program is.

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=300472&page=1

« Reply #723 on: February 09, 2011, 18:32 »
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Yeah, I wonder why they don't just kill it off and be done with it, whatever the problems were.

« Reply #724 on: February 09, 2011, 19:45 »
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Yeah, I wonder why they don't just kill it off and be done with it, whatever the problems were.
Wouldn't that be considered an admission of guilt (or failure)?
Something iStock doesn't want to be involved with (officially).


 

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