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Agency Based Discussion => iStockPhoto.com => Topic started by: Goofy on December 20, 2013, 17:26
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Just started getting some PP sales for November! Let's hope we all do well! :)
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Hope they're as good as October was. I held off on requesting payment waiting for them and hoping they'd show up before the 23rd!
Just checked my account however, and no PP sales have shown up yet for me.
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Getty is in, so probably Getty360 sales, which show as green.
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Thanks for the headsup Goofy! I only have a couple showing so far, but nice to know they are starting :)
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I've only got 1 PP sale from the 17th ?
Looks like extended license as the royality is $35.86.
I'm sure more will pop in as the slow gears of PP processing continues.
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In the moment I have also only one partnersale for 45 USD from the 14th.
It was sold by Getty Images.
But I can't find my picture on gettyimages.com...
And I'm not exclusive.
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Still nothing here
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The PP hasn't started yet.
The sales which have been reported are Getty Sales, including Getty360, which shows as green bars.
All non-editorial iS images are in Getty Images 360, exclusive or indie.
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=352445 (http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=352445)
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Thanks for the info!
But it's really horrible chaotic with all these different selling-structures.
So I have to read and read and translate and read again and...
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Thanks for the info!
But it's really horrible chaotic with all these different selling-structures.
So I have to read and read and translate and read again and...
Well, it might be smoke and mirrors, or it might be lack of forward planning in management.
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Ok, Getty sold my eps-file for 300 USD and gave me 45 USD (15%).
But which rights bought the buyer ?
(normal) royaltyfree or something extended ?
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For me PP haven't started yey. Looks like they need our money for christmas...
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Not a single pp for me yet.
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It's an accounting thing if they delay reporting PP to the last minute then a payment request can't be made or actioned to 2014.
It makes the balance sheet look better.
Accountants rule the world :(
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It's an accounting thing if they delay reporting PP to the last minute then a payment request can't be made or actioned to 2014.
It makes the balance sheet look better.
Accountants rule the world :(
Not really. Unpaid PP royalties remain in the Liabilities column so the balance sheet looks the same.
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I thought GI was that purple color on the graph? so Getty360 is different from "GI Sales" and "GI Connect"?
sorry if these are something I should already know, but I have been away from here (and the iStock forums) for far too long! I have a lot of catching up to do.
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For some reason, Getty 360 reports in green, like the PP. Support and mods weren't told about that until after it happened, causing some confusion at first.
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December 27 Still nothing here!
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December 27 Still nothing here!
It will start 31 dec 2013 23:59, at least that way they didnt break their promise...
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December 27 Still nothing here!
It will start 31 dec 2013 23:59, at least that way they didnt break their promise...
You mean GMT or IST* ?
*iStock time
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I think it might be 2018 instead of 2013 :)
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It will start 31 dec 2013 23:59, at least that way they didnt break their promise...
I hope you're right but I'm not holding my breath...
With so many broken promises already, what's one more?
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December 27 Still nothing here!
It will start 31 dec 2013 23:59, at least that way they didnt break their promise...
They're not remotely bothered about breaking promises.
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I figured they said they were going to come good on their promises
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I figured they said they were going to come good on their promises
Well, ask those of us still waiting for them to come good on their promises to mirror our S+ or Vetta files over to Getty - years now, and although new files are moving over to some extent, in fits and starts, old files are 'stuck'. ::)
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just saw my first PP for Nov 1 pop through in the last few minutes. Here we go! good luck.
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Kelvin is CONSTANTLY locking threads and commenting that when PP starts there will be an official notification. But there NEVER is.
it really bugs the sh*t out of me.
Two faced hypocrites with a real gift for lip service.
I'll take their money but I don't have to like them.
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Kelvin is CONSTANTLY locking threads and commenting that when PP starts there will be an official notification. But there NEVER is.
Hmmmm, that's not 100% true.
Looking at the most recent threads in the PP forum over there, Kelvin has locked some but hasn't said that once in his locking post. He has generally referred people to the sticky which says PP should be paid before the end of the month.
IIRC either he, or Rob, or both, also said if there was going to be a delay there would be an official post; but as that hasn't happened, no official post seems to be necessary.
(thinks: do you really need a notification that it's started? If you're over there looking for a notification, you'd see your balance has gone up [unless you opt to keep your balance hidden, which would be your choice] and could check where the sales were coming from, probably with the same number of clicks as checking in the forum.)
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Kelvin is CONSTANTLY locking threads and commenting that when PP starts there will be an official notification. But there NEVER is.
Hmmmm, that's not 100% true.
Looking at the most recent threads in the PP forum over there, Kelvin has locked some but hasn't said that once in his locking post. He has generally referred people to the sticky which says PP should be paid before the end of the month.
IIRC either he, or Rob, or both, also said if there was going to be a delay there would be an official post; but as that hasn't happened, no official post seems to be necessary.
(thinks: do you really need a notification that it's started? If you're over there looking for a notification, you'd see your balance has gone up [unless you opt to keep your balance hidden, which would be your choice] and could check where the sales were coming from, probably with the same number of clicks as checking in the forum.)
I have a bookmark to my stats page so it only takes one click to check (plus a second one if I need to log in).
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Well, today they really started!
Wait and see…
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Mine finally started trickling in yesterday.
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It seems the October PP was a once off. Seems to be back to normal penny earnings. Makes you wonder what happened in October.
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Same here, Ron :(
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Yeah, what happened to the big sales?
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Very slow sales here too.
Maybe 25% of the October ones…
:'(
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Sorry to say, but it seems fishy to me. My October sales were great, and then the next day, November 1, they suddenly dropped? Coming after the Christmas Eve Clawback (sorry, "refunds") in many people's ports, it's especially fishy. My most popular file of all time on iStock sold the most in November, but somehow PP sales plummeted.
November was my BME on Shutterstock. Same images.
I simply don't trust iStock to be honest about my sales any more, unfortunately.
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I think I am going to sue istock.. this is definitely not normal..
thanks to many people here and there who were surprised to earn a decent amount, I think istock thought it was too much for contri-losers and decided to screw contributors..
mid september, it had started to be decent and october was good, "november suddenly dropping" is definitely a "screw them up scheme"
no one can convince me otherwise..
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Sorry to say, but it seems fishy to me. My October sales were great, and then the next day, November 1, they suddenly dropped? Coming after the Christmas Eve Clawback (sorry, "refunds") in many people's ports, it's especially fishy. My most popular file of all time on iStock sold the most in November, but somehow PP sales plummeted.
November was my BME on Shutterstock. Same images.
I simply don't trust iStock to be honest about my sales any more, unfortunately.
totally agree.. that is veeery veery FISHY
they still have our files on all those additional sites.. it's impossible that we only had 1 good month and files suddenly stopped selling..
I think what we see here is sales were reported correctly last month and this month they wrote a script to filter some sales.. thus it took as long as it did to report them..
after all, contributors believed it was a mistake anyway..
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I sent this email to istock to ask for an explanation..
"Hello,
Please explain why october partner sales were decent and this months partner sales are abysmal.
this is going to be a court case if you don't provide a logical explanation.
Best Regards,
Cihan"
They do owe me an explanation.. I urge everyone to do the same.. Don't let them screw you like this.. We have the right to ask for transparency about why the sales were good last month, and suddenly awful this month.. Did they withdraw our files from those partner sites? Did customers stop using them?
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It seems the October PP was a once off. Seems to be back to normal penny earnings. Makes you wonder what happened in October.
Send them an email and ask.. if they don't provide a logical explanation, then sue them..
if hundreds of people ask for it through their support (not on the forums) they will have to respond and act on it..
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Kelvin is CONSTANTLY locking threads and commenting that when PP starts there will be an official notification. But there NEVER is.
Hmmmm, that's not 100% true.
Looking at the most recent threads in the PP forum over there, Kelvin has locked some but hasn't said that once in his locking post. He has generally referred people to the sticky which says PP should be paid before the end of the month.
IIRC either he, or Rob, or both, also said if there was going to be a delay there would be an official post; but as that hasn't happened, no official post seems to be necessary.
(thinks: do you really need a notification that it's started? If you're over there looking for a notification, you'd see your balance has gone up [unless you opt to keep your balance hidden, which would be your choice] and could check where the sales were coming from, probably with the same number of clicks as checking in the forum.)
I have a bookmark to my stats page so it only takes one click to check (plus a second one if I need to log in).
No I don't need an official notification, but that is not my point.
They refer people to the sticky, they lock threads, they send site mail that they have deleted posts and when the pp is starting they will post an official notification.
I just want them to FOLLOW THROUGH with their own rules and do what they say they will.
That is my point.
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They refer people to the sticky, they lock threads, they send site mail that they have deleted posts and when the pp is starting they will post an official notification.
Ah, this is the first I've heard of the site mails. I thought you were referring to the forum.
Given that they say they'll pay by the end of the month, I'm not sure why people start whining from the middle of the month if they payments haven't started. Sure, bombard them on the first day of the following month. By the thousand.
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I sent this email to istock to ask for an explanation..
"Hello,
Please explain why october partner sales were decent and this months partner sales are abysmal.
this is going to be a court case if you don't provide a logical explanation.
Best Regards,
Cihan"
They do owe me an explanation.. I urge everyone to do the same.. Don't let them screw you like this.. We have the right to ask for transparency about why the sales were good last month, and suddenly awful this month.. Did they withdraw our files from those partner sites? Did customers stop using them?
Unfortunately, there will be no court case, and they won't provide any explanation.
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I sent this email to istock to ask for an explanation..
"Hello,
Please explain why october partner sales were decent and this months partner sales are abysmal.
this is going to be a court case if you don't provide a logical explanation.
Best Regards,
Cihan"
They do owe me an explanation.. I urge everyone to do the same.. Don't let them screw you like this.. We have the right to ask for transparency about why the sales were good last month, and suddenly awful this month.. Did they withdraw our files from those partner sites? Did customers stop using them?
Unfortunately, there will be no court case, and they won't provide any explanation.
And they will "fire" you (cidepix)…
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Slow and Low....like my dancing.
I doubt IS will elucidate on a weekend.
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I sent this email to istock to ask for an explanation..
"Hello,
Please explain why october partner sales were decent and this months partner sales are abysmal.
this is going to be a court case if you don't provide a logical explanation.
Best Regards,
Cihan"
They do owe me an explanation.. I urge everyone to do the same.. Don't let them screw you like this.. We have the right to ask for transparency about why the sales were good last month, and suddenly awful this month.. Did they withdraw our files from those partner sites? Did customers stop using them?
Unfortunately, there will be no court case, and they won't provide any explanation.
Most likely you'll just get the cookie cutter response that 'your sales are correct'.
However, I'm impressed if anyone's monthly PP income is sufficient that it's worth a court case in the Land of Expensive Litigation.
There's always the danger that they'll 'discover' that October sales were 'wrong' and claw them back. It seemed odd at the time, that they'd ban exclusives from putting files there even if they wanted to, and shortly afterwards PP sales/prices seemed to soar.
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The usual pattern is one full week thus around Friday next week before I get worried.
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I sent this email to istock to ask for an explanation..
"Hello,
Please explain why october partner sales were decent and this months partner sales are abysmal.
this is going to be a court case if you don't provide a logical explanation.
Best Regards,
Cihan"
They do owe me an explanation.. I urge everyone to do the same.. Don't let them screw you like this.. We have the right to ask for transparency about why the sales were good last month, and suddenly awful this month.. Did they withdraw our files from those partner sites? Did customers stop using them?
Unfortunately, there will be no court case, and they won't provide any explanation.
There would be a court case if someone sued them.
I'm thinking back to the month PP sales were late, and everyone ended up with two or three days where there was a steep plunge in PP sales. Only because there was an uproar on the boards did iStock look into it and "fix" it. What if nobody had complained?
I simply cannot trust them.
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Ahh what a disappointment, pp sales are lower then my summer stats :-\
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They refer people to the sticky, they lock threads, they send site mail that they have deleted posts and when the pp is starting they will post an official notification.
Ah, this is the first I've heard of the site mails. I thought you were referring to the forum.
Given that they say they'll pay by the end of the month, I'm not sure why people start whining from the middle of the month if they payments haven't started. Sure, bombard them on the first day of the following month. By the thousand.
Yes, I agree. I too get annoyed when people start threads in the middle of the month. It's mostly newbies.
You would not be aware of site mail because it was sent to me by kelvin telling me my post was deleted and we will officially notify in the forum, yada, yada, yada... Notification never happened.
P.s. My deleted post was created on the last day of the month back when they paid two months together cuz of some snafu. It was probably deleted as I titled it OFFICIALLY NOTIFY OR LOCK. I guess it pissed him off cuz he did not respond to either of the title requests, he just deleted it.
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Just to add to the sentiment, my pp sals are weaker than previous months, and miles away from Oct.
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I think October PP sales were a one-time special month only, and now it's back to the normal, low-RPD. I always considered October's PP sales completely out of range compared to 'normal' PP sales.
However, they should give an explanation as to what happened.
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I think October PP sales were a one-time special month only, and now it's back to the normal, low-RPD. I always considered October's PP sales completely out of range compared to 'normal' PP sales.
However, they should give an explanation as to what happened.
We are not talking about a few contributors.. everybody, without exception, had a good month.. and now everybody is having a bad month.. what's the deal here?
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"There would be a court case if someone sued them."
Nobody is going to sue them. Sorry.
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I think October PP sales were a one-time special month only, and now it's back to the normal, low-RPD. I always considered October's PP sales completely out of range compared to 'normal' PP sales.
However, they should give an explanation as to what happened.
We are not talking about a few contributors.. everybody, without exception, had a good month.. and now everybody is having a bad month.. what's the deal here?
I'm not saying it was about a few contributors.
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I think October PP sales were a one-time special month only, and now it's back to the normal, low-RPD. I always considered October's PP sales completely out of range compared to 'normal' PP sales.
However, they should give an explanation as to what happened.
Not just me then - Sept / Oct started to look like something different was happening and it almost was enough to get me to upload some of the newer or better selling files but only almost, so November is NOT a case of having to kick myself :)
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Remarkably slow November when compared to October...
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I think October PP sales were a one-time special month only, and now it's back to the normal, low-RPD. I always considered October's PP sales completely out of range compared to 'normal' PP sales.
However, they should give an explanation as to what happened.
We are not talking about a few contributors.. everybody, without exception, had a good month.. and now everybody is having a bad month.. what's the deal here?
Hold your horses. The PP comes from several sources and the data is run in phases from each. So far we only appear to be getting the TS sub sales. Hopefully we still have the chunky sales from Getty or wherever to come. Volume-wise I'm about 'normal to good' so far.
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Hopefully we still have the chunky sales from Getty or wherever to come.
Getty360 came in with the other Getty sales (as reported at the beginning of this thread and at the beginning of the iStock thread http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=358316&page=1. (http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=358316&page=1.)
What other Getty sales do indies get?
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Hopefully we still have the chunky sales from Getty or wherever to come.
Getty360 came in with the other Getty sales (as reported at the beginning of this thread and at the beginning of the iStock thread [url]http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=358316&page=1.]http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=358316&page=1.] [url]http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=358316&page=1. (http://[url=http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=358316&page=1.)[/url]
What other Getty sales do indies get?
Yeah, I think that ship has already sailed
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Hopefully we still have the chunky sales from Getty or wherever to come.
Getty360 came in with the other Getty sales (as reported at the beginning of this thread and at the beginning of the iStock thread [url]http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=358316&page=1.[/url] ([url]http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=358316&page=1.[/url])
What other Getty sales do indies get?
I'm not sure Getty 360 sales for indies are reported at the same time or in the same way as for exclusives.
That said, with one week left to report, it looks like I am only going to be at 1/4 to 1/3 of October PP earnings.
Hopefully Gostwyck is right and there are more earnings left to report in another wave. Otherwise really disappointing, and puts a major crimp in my intentions to keep uploading my 1 year backlog.
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There is an error in the thread title ( iStock PP has started for November ).
It should be:
"iStock PP has stopped for November"
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If this is it for November pp than I will give more priority to cleaning my house or cleaning my basement than uploading to these thieves! Now I understand better why so many folks hate them...
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Are you talking about PP sales only? My iStock sales stoped Dec. 09 completely, this is 3 weeks now without any sale, ... Like someone blocked my account...
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Number of average daily sales are somewhere near October sales, not much less, but not a single sale other then 0.28c and this is very suspicious.
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Hopefully we still have the chunky sales from Getty or wherever to come.
Getty360 came in with the other Getty sales (as reported at the beginning of this thread and at the beginning of the iStock thread [url]http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=358316&page=1.[/url] ([url]http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=358316&page=1.[/url])
What other Getty sales do indies get?
I'm not sure Getty 360 sales for indies are reported at the same time or in the same way as for exclusives.
That said, with one week left to report, it looks like I am only going to be at 1/4 to 1/3 of October PP earnings.
Hopefully Gostwyck is right and there are more earnings left to report in another wave. Otherwise really disappointing, and puts a major crimp in my intentions to keep uploading my 1 year backlog.
Photos.com might still come in (?)
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Volume wise, assuming an average last 7 days of reporting, I'm at 90% of the previous month, which is reasonable - hard cash 60%
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My PP sales are the same as Oct. sales. It's OK for me.
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I sent this email to istock to ask for an explanation..
"Hello,
Please explain why october partner sales were decent and this months partner sales are abysmal.
this is going to be a court case if you don't provide a logical explanation.
Best Regards,
Cihan"
They do owe me an explanation.. I urge everyone to do the same.. Don't let them screw you like this.. We have the right to ask for transparency about why the sales were good last month, and suddenly awful this month.. Did they withdraw our files from those partner sites? Did customers stop using them?
They will just tell you that sales go this way and that way, the market&customers are thisandthat.. blablabla... juts like when borkers / bankers nod their shoulder ans say the market is unpredictable after making you loose 5 times the money you gave them.
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I can't work it out, something must be wrong. Have they just decided to pay a flat 20 something cents for 360 sales too or something? either that or there's some kind of calculation error?
DLs similar to October, money 3x less !?
I'm still hoping that there's a lot more larger sales to appear later.
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I've sent a support ticket. I want to know what's going on. I'll probably get a canned response.
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"I've sent a support ticket. I want to know what's going on. I'll probably get a canned response."
No, most likely you will get banned from those jerks!
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All Nov. PP sales only .28 $
I hate cheaters.
>:(
Also on FT, DP almost all sales were Subscription.
2014 - bad year for full time stockers?
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All Nov. PP sales only .28 $
I hate cheaters.
>:(
Also on FT, DP almost all sales were Subscription.
2014 - bad year for full time stockers?
This is an interesting point because for me personally sales were subscription heavy in nov and dec, almost like an end of year push to use up allocations.
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All Nov. PP sales only .28 $
Most are .28$, but few 1.2-1.8$ also and one 24$ 8)
October PP was insane for me too. Total downloads in Nov pretty much same as Oct but a half less dollars :o
In October I had a lot of 3.96$ PP downloads but none in November. Maybe they had some sort of a credit campaign or something in October?
October seemed to be one-time-miracle. Should we say WOWCTOBER!
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So, October got me excited just like a good looking sports car but once I tried to take off in the car it didn't even perform at the level of a Toyota hybrid car at 90 horse power!
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A bit of a Bait and Switch if you ask me. After the great reports of Oct, I resumed to upload like a lot of others here. Or am I getting paranoid?
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I don't know if they're quite done yet. The last three days are the only ones not showing PP sales yet. Could either be as a result of the Thanksgiving holiday or because they aren't done yet. Thanksgiving was only celebrated on the 28th in the US though, so surely there should have been SOME sales on those days.
Is anyone showing sales for the 28-30th?
Big disappointment though, regardless of what the last three days brought in. Back to summer royalty levels. Nothing at all like October, even though November is usually best or second best month of the year.
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Yes, 28th 25 PP sales so far!
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My PP RPD has dropped 58% from October to November, very mysterious! Hopefully payments are not complete yet, but I have green bars all the way through November.
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Looks like it's over! 65% down compared to Oct PP $. It's obvious that Nov PP stats are fake (read cheating). Just can't go 50-70% down to everyone overnight. Strange very very strange situation >:(
Cheers,
Cheating refers to an immoral way of achieving a goal. It is generally used for the breaking of rules to gain unfair advantage in a competitive situation
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Looks like it's over! 65% down compared to Oct PP $. It's obvious that Nov PP stats are fake (read cheating). Just can't go 50-70% down to everyone overnight. Strange very very strange situation >:(
For me 44% down, but in October I had one PP extended license and one crazy day with 81 PP sales(seems like someone bought one entire set from La Palma island) when normally I have 5-20 PP sales/day. I don't see such a fall in sales... and see it rather stable.
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Number of sales is slighty down, but the most alarming thing is the lower RPD compared to last month.
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The last three days have filled in. Looks like it is a very average PP month. It looks as though the boom in October is the statistical outlier, and we are back to about average.
Very disappointing, and I am baffled as to what caused the surge in October.
The silver lining for me is I am now dead even with last November, so this reverses a trend I've been having of being down 20% each month this year, on the same month prior year.
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November compared to October
Number of sold images: 8% less
Amount of money earned: minus 75%
::)
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There's always the danger that they'll 'discover' that October sales were 'wrong' and claw them back. It seemed odd at the time, that they'd ban exclusives from putting files there even if they wanted to, and shortly afterwards PP sales/prices seemed to soar.
This! For me at least October was the (positive) exception from the norm rather than November being the negative one. I think it's quite possible that they'll discover a "glitch in the matrix" or "gremlins in the basement" that screwed up October PP reporting (what with Halloween, and all ;D).
What also could have happened in October was that they did some house cleaning and made a mass payment of PP royalties overdue from previous months for some reason or other. Maybe they had a "Get your credits now, pay six months later"-campaign going at some point...
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My 2013 @ IS:
(http://s24.postimg.org/x523sjbf9/IS_sales.png)
Blue is money earned.
Orange is sold images.
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Nov PP down literally 50% on Oct for me. I'm only small fry but all the same.....
I had hoped there was still (a bit of life) in this particular old dog.......
But back to summer levels..... (Sept was also a BIT better than usual).
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Half of October! Disaster...
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November compared to October
DLs 45% down
$$ 97% down
lol
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September: she agreed to go out with me.
October: great foreplay.
November: ...she got up and left.
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This! For me at least October was the (positive) exception from the norm rather than November being the negative one. I think it's quite possible that they'll discover a "glitch in the matrix" or "gremlins in the basement" that screwed up October PP reporting (what with Halloween, and all ;D).
What also could have happened in October was that they did some house cleaning and made a mass payment of PP royalties overdue from previous months for some reason or other. Maybe they had a "Get your credits now, pay six months later"-campaign going at some point...
I completely agree, October was the special one not November. The reason is most likely what Ploink suggested.
I am not a big fan of IS and I am also disappointed that good Ocotber PP sales are not continuing but publicly accusing them with cheating or thieving is very unprofessional and definitely rude.
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Has everyone sent them an email and ask what's going on?
If you haven't, why?
Who else is going to defend your rights..
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I am not a big fan of IS and I am also disappointed that good Ocotber PP sales are not continuing but publicly accusing them with cheating or thieving is very unprofessional and definitely rude.
+1
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Has everyone sent them an email and ask what's going on?
If you haven't, why?
Who else is going to defend your rights..
Did you take out a ticket to ask why October suddenly and inexplicably had a far better RPI than usual?
(Before you ask, I did take out a ticket when I suddenly found a $50 PP sale though I'm not in the PP, and found it was Getty360.)
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My numbers for October and November were surprisingly close, although they differed in the detail. I had quite a few non-.28 PP sales in October, and only a couple in November. But one of those was very large and made November even better. So my small portfolio on iStock continues to fumble along in third place, at least for now. Won't know the trend until December's PP numbers show up next month.
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I foolishly waited for the PP reports before requesting my payout. Down 59% in revenue from October despite slightly more downloads >:( ironically still second BME for PP sales yet WMY for regular sales, so all in all a very disappointing November there - even with last year though I've nearly doubled the size of my portfolio - as a non-exclusive however, most of the work I've added this year hasn't even had a single view - the stuff that's been seen sells. Looking at the year as a whole however, I'm up more than 100% over 2012 so that's encouraging.
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I foolishly waited for the PP reports before requesting my payout. Down 59% from October >:( ironically still second BME for PP sales yet WMY for regular sales, so all in all a very disappointing November there - even with last year though I've nearly doubled the size of my portfolio - as a non-exclusive however, most of the work I've added this year hasn't even had a single view - the stuff that's been seen sells. Looking at the year as a whole however, I'm up more than 100% over 2012 so that's encouraging.
That's not exclusive to indies - for well over a year, new files, indies or not, have been starting low (at best, c10% down, at some times 50% down the day after acceptance, for exclusives).
But congrats on your 100% increase overall. That's going to be relatively unusual, I'm sure, when year stats are compared.
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Has everyone sent them an email and ask what's going on?
If you haven't, why?
Who else is going to defend your rights..
Did you take out a ticket to ask why October suddenly and inexplicably had a far better RPI than usual?
(Before you ask, I did take out a ticket when I suddenly found a $50 PP sale though I'm not in the PP, and found it was Getty360.)
I haven't heard from them yet..
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Has everyone sent them an email and ask what's going on?
If you haven't, why?
Who else is going to defend your rights..
Did you take out a ticket to ask why October suddenly and inexplicably had a far better RPI than usual?
(Before you ask, I did take out a ticket when I suddenly found a $50 PP sale though I'm not in the PP, and found it was Getty360.)
I haven't heard from them yet..
Don't HYB - I've got an outstanding ticket from 6th December.
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Has everyone sent them an email and ask what's going on?
If you haven't, why?
Who else is going to defend your rights..
Did you take out a ticket to ask why October suddenly and inexplicably had a far better RPI than usual?
(Before you ask, I did take out a ticket when I suddenly found a $50 PP sale though I'm not in the PP, and found it was Getty360.)
I haven't heard from them yet..
Don't HYB - I've got an outstanding ticket from 6th December.
We will see.. I have sent a duplicate to customer support as well as contributor relations.
Customer support may be faster..
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... I have sent a duplicate to customer support as well as contributor relations.
Customer support may be faster..
Or they may simply tell you it's not a customer issue.
Be sure to let us know, either way!
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There's always the danger that they'll 'discover' that October sales were 'wrong' and claw them back. It seemed odd at the time, that they'd ban exclusives from putting files there even if they wanted to, and shortly afterwards PP sales/prices seemed to soar.
This! For me at least October was the (positive) exception from the norm rather than November being the negative one. I think it's quite possible that they'll discover a "glitch in the matrix" or "gremlins in the basement" that screwed up October PP reporting (what with Halloween, and all ;D).
What also could have happened in October was that they did some house cleaning and made a mass payment of PP royalties overdue from previous months for some reason or other. Maybe they had a "Get your credits now, pay six months later"-campaign going at some point...
Looking back, this seems to be the case. Though my number of downloads didn't vary tremendously in September, October and November, my earnings per DL were double in October. To me this means they either: A) under-report our earnings every month and in October the truth came out, or B) there's something off in October. Sadly, based on their past performance, I'm not sure which to believe.
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... I have sent a duplicate to customer support as well as contributor relations.
Customer support may be faster..
Or they may simply tell you it's not a customer issue.
Be sure to let us know, either way!
You are probably right..
Of course, I will let you guys know..
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I had a lot of images just sitting in Deepmeta and when I noticed that photos are being copied to the PP I started to upload them to IS. My PP portoflio increased by over 200 images during the three months to December to about 700 (those numbers are not very accurate but you get the picture). I was expecting a very strong November, but sadly it was much weaker then Oct with only 0.28 sales and a tiny amount of more expensive images. I am disappointed as well and want to know what is going on.
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Vain cries for a response over on the IS forum, what with everyone prepping for the big night.
People forget, only emergency services and nuns work the same hours as stock photographers.
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LOL ;D
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Oct and Nov I had roughly the same number of downloads in PP, but revenue dropped 50% in Nov. I'm a fairly new to stock and the lack of transparency continues to blow me away.
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Oct and Nov I had roughly the same number of downloads in PP, but revenue dropped 50% in Nov. I'm a fairly new to stock and the lack of transparency continues to blow me away.
Welcome in the club...
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My Nov downloads were on the low end of the the yearly normal. I must have had a couple of the good sales as my income was at the high end of normal. PP seems fairly normal here.
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LOL ;D
PP for 2013 doesn't end today…
(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2804/py19.png) (http://img593.imageshack.us/i/py19.png/)
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Wow ! I've post on the french forum about PP and lobo locked my topic ! I'Ve read the update about PP of november and that's not good news. Why can't i talk about it in french ? They lock every topic they want, don't want our opinion. They lost my trust ! We never know what's going on !
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LOL ;D
PP for 2013 doesn't end today…
([url]http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2804/py19.png[/url]) ([url]http://img593.imageshack.us/i/py19.png/[/url])
This will be a reality now http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/hold-on-to-your-wallets!-%27there-are-irregularities-with-october%27s-pp-royalties%27/msg360321/#msg360321 (http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/hold-on-to-your-wallets!-%27there-are-irregularities-with-october%27s-pp-royalties%27/msg360321/#msg360321)
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oops wrong thread