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« Reply #500 on: December 05, 2016, 10:37 »
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Thompson was only ever a puppet.
True. iS hasn't had a CEO since Bruce left, has it?

Thats because Getty dont want a proper CEO at Istock. They want a yes-man somebody they can boss around and scare!. Just look at the present CEO at Getty. Makes you laugh.

All of iStock is yes men and women holding space in their cubicale to have a job. The whole place is afraid to speak or think. Getty doesn't care like thorn in the side comment is right. Read Lobo on the forums for years, that's how bad the place is and how much they don't care or want to give a straight answer. He's just the mouthpiece and a very nasty person. He is the voice of what Getty and iStock think of us.


« Reply #501 on: December 05, 2016, 10:50 »
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So I have to disagree, Getty might not think it matters but they are wrong.
If the top 800 leave, Getty would really notice it. If the bottom 8000 leave they would just laugh about how much wasted server space was being recovered. And those most likely to leave are those with the least to lose. The top 800 would lose quite a lot. The bottom 8000 probably would never have made a payout, anyway. That's just how it is.

I'm in the top couple hundred and if my monthly income there drops any more I  DONT stand to lose a lot.  This year I make so little there that if I lose even one or two hundred $ /month it won't be worth staying.
Wow, that's sad!

« Reply #502 on: December 05, 2016, 11:12 »
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Thompson was only ever a puppet. If you think he was involved in the big decisions I think you are wrong. I suspect his only role was to try and sugar coat orders from on high. He failed miserably but given what he had to work with I'm not sure he could have succeeded.

Don't get me wrong. F*** him for going along with it, but I don't believe he was the organ grinder.

Maybe and maybe not. Pretty much the next day at 500px he slashed commissions by 40%. That was 500px owners taking his f u k d up advice. That tells me a lot about him. I  think he was far more culpable than many give him credit.
Good point, maybe his USP is now the guy to hire when you want to shaft your contributor base?
I would love to see his CV!  ;D

« Reply #503 on: December 05, 2016, 12:18 »
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Does anyone remember that post by an ex employee explaining why getty is run the way it is? It explains a lot. We are perplexed by what they are doing because we expect the company to be run like a stock agency competing for customers and the best content. Actually like a lot of "businesses" nowadays it is just a financial vehicle to juggle funds about and make money by slight of hand.

In the comment section of this article....
http://photobusinessforum.blogspot.no/2015/02/getty-images-downward-spiral-approaches.html

gyllens

« Reply #504 on: December 05, 2016, 12:33 »
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Thompson was only ever a puppet.
True. iS hasn't had a CEO since Bruce left, has it?

Thats because Getty dont want a proper CEO at Istock. They want a yes-man somebody they can boss around and scare!. Just look at the present CEO at Getty. Makes you laugh.

All of iStock is yes men and women holding space in their cubicale to have a job. The whole place is afraid to speak or think. Getty doesn't care like thorn in the side comment is right. Read Lobo on the forums for years, that's how bad the place is and how much they don't care or want to give a straight answer. He's just the mouthpiece and a very nasty person. He is the voice of what Getty and iStock think of us.


Correct!  and it shows you the incompetence by Getty employing people like Lobo. Three people who are responsible for extremely bad contributor friction. Lobo, Thompson and Scott. All three now employed by other agencies. Bad judgement indeed!
« Last Edit: December 05, 2016, 12:53 by gyllens »

« Reply #505 on: December 05, 2016, 13:25 »
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Where did Lobo go?

« Reply #506 on: December 05, 2016, 13:52 »
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Lobo is still with Istock/Getty under his real name right where he belongs!
« Last Edit: December 05, 2016, 14:16 by jodijacobson »

gyllens

« Reply #507 on: December 05, 2016, 14:41 »
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Lobo is still with Istock/Getty under his real name right where he belongs!

The guy was nothing but a forum moderator at IS and totally worthless as such. So what is he now? well knowing the stupidity of Getty he probably became the President of GI? ;D

Scott went to Adobe/ft where he probably stirs the kettle as much as he did at the SS forum banning around 30 people just before he left. Nice people right.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2016, 14:44 by gyllens »

Shelma1

« Reply #508 on: December 05, 2016, 14:49 »
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Lobo is still with Istock/Getty under his real name right where he belongs!


Ha ha ha...I was attending GSC the same time as you. Small world.

« Reply #509 on: December 05, 2016, 14:56 »
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Lobo is still with Istock/Getty under his real name right where he belongs!

The guy was nothing but a forum moderator at IS and totally worthless as such. So what is he now? well knowing the stupidity of Getty he probably became the President of GI? ;D

Scott went to Adobe/ft where he probably stirs the kettle as much as he did at the SS forum banning around 30 people just before he left. Nice people right.

Isn't Lobo Chris McBurney?  One of Istock original co-founders with Bruce?  I thought I  read that somewhere awhile back.  If it's true, he totally sold Istock down the river and should be ashamed to be part of what it has become.

gyllens

« Reply #510 on: December 05, 2016, 15:05 »
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Lobo is still with Istock/Getty under his real name right where he belongs!

The guy was nothing but a forum moderator at IS and totally worthless as such. So what is he now? well knowing the stupidity of Getty he probably became the President of GI? ;D

Scott went to Adobe/ft where he probably stirs the kettle as much as he did at the SS forum banning around 30 people just before he left. Nice people right.

Isn't Lobo Chris McBurney?  One of Istock original co-founders with Bruce?  I thought I  read that somewhere awhile back.  If it's true, he totally sold Istock down the river and should be ashamed to be part of what it has become.

Now he seems to be at Getty and Getty have a past record of hiring some really incompetent people.

« Reply #511 on: December 05, 2016, 18:12 »
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Anyone heard from Yuri Arcurs?  I see he has stopped doing anything with social media and was last here in August, if he doesn't have a secret alias.  He still has a tiny portfolio on DT.  Shame there was such a bust up with the non-exclusives, I'm sure Getty must of made him an offer he couldn't refuse but it was still so strange to see the biggest non-exclusive going with them at that time.  I'm sure it was always going to work out well for him financially and that makes business sense but it didn't seem like a smart PR move :)

« Reply #512 on: December 05, 2016, 22:14 »
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Anyone heard from Yuri Arcurs?  I see he has stopped doing anything with social media and was last here in August, if he doesn't have a secret alias.  He still has a tiny portfolio on DT.  Shame there was such a bust up with the non-exclusives, I'm sure Getty must of made him an offer he couldn't refuse but it was still so strange to see the biggest non-exclusive going with them at that time.  I'm sure it was always going to work out well for him financially and that makes business sense but it didn't seem like a smart PR move :)

I doubt it worked out as well for him as he thought it would.  If it had he'd be  crowing about it, here, on his website, in any blog that would interview him.  His silence speaks volumes.

He also did damage to contributors as a whole.  When he went exclusive at Getty and the world didn't end at the other sites, he proved to all agencies that any contributors are expendable,  even the top seller.

« Reply #513 on: December 06, 2016, 03:09 »
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I am sure he is doing well, better than us. His Peopleimages is the best site on the market at the moment and he has a lot of wholly owned content there. Beside that he has a top spot in the Getty search...
He just leveled up and he already reached the top of the contributors community so why would he advertise himself here anymore?

« Reply #514 on: December 06, 2016, 04:30 »
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I am sure he is doing well, better than us. His Peopleimages is the best site on the market at the moment and he has a lot of wholly owned content there. Beside that he has a top spot in the Getty search...
He just leveled up and he already reached the top of the contributors community so why would he advertise himself here anymore?
Maybe maybe not but he seems to have a huge ego that requires feeding ..or did maybe hes just taking it easy? 

ShadySue

« Reply #515 on: December 06, 2016, 04:43 »
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His team has had some free uploading tool (rival to DM) on the go for a while now.

Still, if he came in here, I for one would still be gnawing at the old bone of "what happened/went wrong?"

Yuri (quoted by Pickerell) in June 2014:
""Having just spent 3 days at GI in New York and today in Seattle with the IT exes I believe that very interesting things are in the pipeline for IS. Did I have a say in the upcoming changes... Yes - for sure. That being said. The GI top exe dev guys are highly competent and more flexible and agile towards change that I would have imagined. We are working on a set of core site improvements that will dramatically improve user experience and ultimately sales. Only thing that I can say now: Give IS three months and see the changes for yourself.

Shutterstock might be in for a bit more competition than they expected, especially if GI has me project managing the develoment team and we utilize the two things GI has that nobody else has: 1. The best images in the world. 2. The best editors in the world. The best images displays that the world has ever seen is just around the corner. Watch this space!"

http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/can-istock-turn-midstock-sales-around/msg382833/#msg382833

Before you ask: no, you never forget where you bury the hatchet.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2016, 04:45 by ShadySue »

« Reply #516 on: December 06, 2016, 04:48 »
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I'm sure he's doing great financially but he would of been as a non-exclusive as well.  The other sites were always going to be OK without him, because he is so successful, there are going to be thousands of copycats.

I hope one day he can talk about the Getty deal, it must of been a very interesting negotiation.  I think he would have to be exclusive for many years, he obviously doesn't have the same deal an average contributor would get but does keeping his account open on other sites mean that he's keeping his options open?

« Reply #517 on: December 06, 2016, 09:31 »
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Dear friends, Freelancers Union started promotion of our case
https://www.facebook.com/freelancersunion/posts/10154825826034726 (like&share)
with big help of "Microstock Coalition"
https://blog.freelancersunion.org/2016/12/02/getty-images-istock-petition/

But it's not enough. They want to know the opinion of US-based designers, photographers etc.

Tomorrow on December 7th at 9:30 (New York Time) the conference call with Executive Director of Freelancers Union is to be held.

Would someone please participate and share your opinion to support the issue?

Freelancers Union phone:
718-532-1515 x669

408 Jay Street, 2nd Floor, Brooklyn, NY 11201
FreelancersUnion.org

« Reply #518 on: December 06, 2016, 10:02 »
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We'll join in on the call.  :)

« Reply #519 on: December 06, 2016, 10:51 »
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Shutterstock might be in for a bit more competition than they expected, especially if GI has me project managing the develoment team and we utilize the two things GI has that nobody else has: 1. The best images in the world. 2. The best editors in the world. The best images displays that the world has ever seen is just around the corner. Watch this space!"  Hilarious really the very definition of Hubris!

« Reply #520 on: December 06, 2016, 16:34 »
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Shutterstock might be in for a bit more competition than they expected, especially if GI has me project managing the develoment team and we utilize the two things GI has that nobody else has: 1. The best images in the world. 2. The best editors in the world. The best images displays that the world has ever seen is just around the corner. Watch this space!"  Hilarious really the very definition of Hubris!

Hate to bring up an exhausted subject, but I've heard so many similar brags and promises from Trump speeches over the past year. I guess all narcissists sound alike?
« Last Edit: December 06, 2016, 16:36 by PixelBytes »

« Reply #521 on: December 06, 2016, 16:39 »
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Gee, I wonder why Yuri (along with at least 5 other top guys that used to be here regularly) don't bother to come around anymore? 

ShadySue

« Reply #522 on: December 06, 2016, 16:47 »
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Gee, I wonder why Yuri  don't bother to come around anymore?
He only came here when he had something to boast about, or when he wanted help. In the latter cases, he didn't feed back. He's not a great loss.

Besides, when people openly boast about how they're going to make things better, they should offer an explanation about why their project management didn't work, or expect a lot of flak.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2016, 16:49 by ShadySue »

« Reply #523 on: December 06, 2016, 16:47 »
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Gee, I wonder why Yuri (along with at least 5 other top guys that used to be here regularly) don't bother to come around anymore?

People come, people go.  Usually it has more to do with whats going on in their life than anything said here. 

I think the main reason so many long time posters don't post is cuz micro is not profitable or exciting for top contributors anymore as they've watched their incomes wither away.

« Reply #524 on: December 06, 2016, 17:27 »
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It isn't just here, Yuri doesn't seem to be active on social media or his own blog.  I can understand why he no longer comes here.


 

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