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bittersweet

« Reply #175 on: April 22, 2008, 09:28 »
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it will be interesting to see how the istock plan works out in the end.... I am looking forward to hearing what types of actual commissions people end up getting.

It will probably take a few weeks / months to get some decent stats though (snip)
This problem will be compounded by the fact that the stats on istock itself will be somewhat obscured at the beginning and who knows for how long. They are expecting us to click on each file downloaded in a day to collect the individual stats for each image.

I'm trying to focus on the positive aspects of them not wanting to overload the servers, but...  ::)


jsnover

« Reply #176 on: April 22, 2008, 10:57 »
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I see a lot of arguing about the minimum payout / image. But we should not forget that often people buy your image when they have subscription and in the end do not use that image.

This is the argument that DT and StockXpert have advanced as they've pushed adding subscriptions, but the volume of subscription sales isn't at SS levels on either of those sites - low enough to be economically dissatisfying but high enough to be annoying when it's a level 3 maximum size image that's flying out the door at 21 cents (DT) or a instead of a $7.50 commission for an XXL image (at StockXpert) for 30 cents.

What seems to have happened, at both DT and StockXpert, is that subscriptions have eaten into the $$ totals, not grown the monthly income.

« Reply #177 on: April 22, 2008, 18:00 »
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Given that the biggest subscription competitor for IS is surely SS, how do their packages compare from a buyer's point-of-view?  In terms of $$, possibly no gain is offered by IS, am I right?  So what is there to attract buyers, the exclusive content?

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #178 on: April 23, 2008, 02:26 »
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I have very good experience with SS subscriptions. I had more than 200 dl's there in SS in last 20 days with less than 80 files online, and just 4 dl's on IS in last three months. I hope that buyers on IS will download much more with this subscription program 

« Reply #179 on: April 23, 2008, 10:42 »
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As a Noob

I started with IS, uploaded to about 8 sites, closed off 5 of these accounts now leaving IS, SS and DT.

With SS and DT I did have "immediate download gratification", but if your uploads stop the downloads stop, and I have found that with IS they slowly trickle with no "fizz and bang", and my images somehow do not get pushed to the last page by the top sellers and new images, due the the weighting of the best match no doubt.

The proposed Subscription Package from IS is a per credit basis which seems to be lost in some threads,  where as SS is a 25c per download payment with no information on the size of the download, the highest percentage of downloads for me on IS are Medium and Large average about 90c a download.

So this subscription package can only be a win win situation for me.

I stopped uploading after January, DT and SS bombed right out but IS has remained constant, making the IS Return Per Image well better.

I have read the argument it is better to have loads of cheap downloads, but I often wonder if I had not uploaded to SS how many of them downloads would have been made at IS instead.  ???

By the end of June I will only be uploading to IS, and any subscription downloads will count towards the next canister, and later exclusive status!  :)   

David
« Last Edit: April 23, 2008, 10:50 by Adeptris »

« Reply #180 on: April 23, 2008, 10:55 »
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^ Hmm interesting. DT is one of the sites that has not dropped for me after not uploading for a couple months. In face, last month was my BME at DT and I have not uploaded but a couple files there the past 3 months.

« Reply #181 on: April 23, 2008, 13:46 »
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My Stats:

April to Date:
SS Portfolio 54 Images - 7 Downloads - $1.75
DT Portfolio 54 Images - 0 Downloads - $0.00
IS Portfolio 40 Images - 11 Downloads - $10.87

Since I Started in September:
SS Portfolio 54 Images - 227 Downloads - $76.70 (Inc: $20 EL)
DT Portfolio 54 Images - 29 Downloads - $25.95
IS Portfolio 40 Images - 71 Downloads - $67.27

I started to upload to other sites due to the rejection rate at IS, mainly copyright for a teeshirt and playing cards, which dented my acceptance ratio to 64%.

In hindsight IS is by far the best Revenue Per Image performer for me, even with the smaller portfolio, one cavaet is that my 2 best earners on IS, were rejected by DT and SS, that what makes me wonder what may have been if I just stuck with uploading to IS!

From today I am now on a 4 day week, so I will re-focus on photography for the free day  ;)

lisafx

« Reply #182 on: April 23, 2008, 13:57 »
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No offense, but 40-50 images is hardly enough to draw any meaningful statistics from.

« Reply #183 on: April 23, 2008, 14:19 »
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No Offence taken, but as a noob I can only make decisions based on my small Portfolio, and translate this by a percentage to a "what if" scenario.

David

« Reply #184 on: April 23, 2008, 14:41 »
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Well, my portfolio on IS is very small. But I don't plan to stop uploading there. I believe when people say that IS is excellent, so why should I stop. I still think that subscription method can only bring good

« Reply #185 on: April 23, 2008, 17:34 »
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Given that the biggest subscription competitor for IS is surely SS, how do their packages compare from a buyer's point-of-view?  In terms of $$, possibly no gain is offered by IS, am I right?  So what is there to attract buyers, the exclusive content?

I don't think my question was understood, I asked about a buyer's point-of-view, not a photographer's.  I want to see if there is any reason SS buyers would move to IS.

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #186 on: April 23, 2008, 18:36 »
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I want to see if there is any reason SS buyers would move to IS.

Well, naturally, buyers would move to IS because it is the greatest microstock in the world, nay the universe.  Woo-yay!

 ;)

bittersweet

« Reply #187 on: April 23, 2008, 18:43 »
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Given that the biggest subscription competitor for IS is surely SS, how do their packages compare from a buyer's point-of-view?  In terms of $$, possibly no gain is offered by IS, am I right?  So what is there to attract buyers, the exclusive content?

I don't think my question was understood, I asked about a buyer's point-of-view, not a photographer's.  I want to see if there is any reason SS buyers would move to IS.

Regards,
Adelaide

Mocking and bitterness aside, if you remove exclusive content from the equation (since to some it holds no added value), then it becomes strictly a question of price, and I'd say that we can't really answer your question until we see what the pricing at istock is going to be. All we know for sure based on their calculator is that there will be some deep discounts for companies with deep pockets, but whether they will be pulling from the same buying group as SS remains to be seen.

« Reply #188 on: April 23, 2008, 19:20 »
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Oh, I thought the packages prices in IS had already been disclosed.  So they're still playing with suggested prices in their calculations?

Regards,
Adelaide

« Reply #189 on: May 22, 2008, 01:41 »
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just thought i would bring this to the front again.

On monday the subscriptions start!!!

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #190 on: May 22, 2008, 05:48 »
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I'm really anxious to see what affect this has on downloads/earnings. I'm guessing initially earnings will go up but who knows about the long term. Yesterday was my best non-EL day there.

« Reply #191 on: May 22, 2008, 06:07 »
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I'm confiant. IS subscription program seems to be contributor friendly. I like idea that we get more credits for bigger size files. A lot of photogs (including me) downsize images for SS, DT, 123 but not for IS. Customers will be there, IS has the best search system (and less keyword spamming) and high quality.


 

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