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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2011, 02:59 »
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It makes perfect sense for an agency to raise prices on popular images

I don't quite understand the logic of that. Why would a buyer want to pay more for an image that so many others are using?

Isn't it obvious? They are assuming that others have done the legwork and already identified the top handful of images. It's just like going to a subject-specific lightbox rather than searching the collection - somebody has pre-sorted the stuff to save you the trouble of wasting an hour doing it yourself. An extra handful of credits (that may get charged to the client, anyway) are worth spending to save an hour's work.


lagereek

« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2011, 03:45 »
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I dont believe a word of this!  they just search, period.  Majority dont even see the little P+, or couldnt care less. Pretty much the same as majority of buyers dont even think about the search-options in the roll-down menue, just use the old banal best match.

I know buyers myself who dont give a * about E+, and all the other collections as long as they get the shot,  well, exeptions being Vetta, not worth its price.

« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2011, 04:11 »
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I dont believe a word of this!  they just search, period.  Majority dont even see the little P+, or couldnt care less. Pretty much the same as majority of buyers dont even think about the search-options in the roll-down menue, just use the old banal best match.

I know buyers myself who dont give a  about E+, and all the other collections as long as they get the shot,  well, exeptions being Vetta, not worth its price.

No doubt that is true for a great many, but the question was "why would buyers do it?". The existence of sort-by-downloads as well as the weight given to dls in best match searches suggests that buyers do see dls as an important indicator of a file's usefulness - or, at least, the agencies think they do.

« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2011, 05:28 »
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If P+ doesn't meet with price resistance from buyers, at least it means we get more money for the same # of sales. 

I didn't go into it expecting a best match boost because I had read about the failure to give E+ the promised boost.   Although a boost would be nice to have :)

Lisa, IS is truly winner here, we are just collateral winners!

« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2011, 07:03 »
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If P+ doesn't meet with price resistance from buyers, at least it means we get more money for the same # of sales. 

I didn't go into it expecting a best match boost because I had read about the failure to give E+ the promised boost.   Although a boost would be nice to have :)

Lisa, IS is truly winner here, we are just collateral winners!

I'll take it!  First time we've been any kind of winner in a long time.

lagereek

« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2011, 07:16 »
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If P+ doesn't meet with price resistance from buyers, at least it means we get more money for the same # of sales. 

I didn't go into it expecting a best match boost because I had read about the failure to give E+ the promised boost.   Although a boost would be nice to have :)

Lisa, IS is truly winner here, we are just collateral winners!


Oh youre thinking about the film?  with Tom Cruise,  where he plays a hit-man?  yeah but he was a loser.

helix7

« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2011, 07:48 »
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My issue with P+ is the same issue I had with E+. Anyone can put any photo into the collection. I've seen stuff in E+ that is better suited for the dollar bin, and I'm sure the same will apply to P+. The flaw of the collection is that it's not a collection of better images across the board. It's better images from individual portfolios, and the level of quality and value of those portfolios varies greatly.

I think the whole + system is just adding another level of complexity to the system and will further frustrate buyers with varying price points. Since there's no Vector+, I'm not able to add any files to a plus collection. But if it were an option, I still don't think I'd participate.

« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2011, 08:08 »
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Helix, "better" is subjective. Some of my best sellers have no artistic value at all but are just useful as components of a design. By a designer's standards I guess that one of those is "better" than a high-production-cost, highly artistic, surreal  composition that can't actually be used for anything much other than hanging on the wall as a piece of art.

I've selected my photo-+ collection purely according to my assessment of sales potential, regardless of artistic merit. With about 20% of my files nominated I seem to have 70% of my sales at the higher price point, which is fine.

helix7

« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2011, 08:25 »
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@Baldrick you're probably doing it the right way. You've take a good look at your portfolio and made logical choices for P+. But I doubt that everyone is using P+ in the same way as you. I've seen plenty of images that have low sales and are generally poor images with an E+ icon below them. They're not hard to find. Just do any search and you'll see a few questionable E+ images in there.

If everyone used the plus system as it was intended, it might prove more useful to buyers. But as it stands right now, I find it more of a nuisance than a helpful feature. If I could filter it out of searches, I would.

lisafx

« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2011, 11:12 »
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Lisa, IS is truly winner here, we are just collateral winners!

I completely agree.  I doubt any of us is naive enough, at this point, to believe Istock gives a rat's patoot about what's in its contributors' best interests. 

But I'm with Dehooks.  I'll take it!! 

lagereek

« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2011, 12:36 »
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Yeah I take it as well. Are we winners?  and how?  just because of a bit more money.

« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2011, 13:00 »
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It makes perfect sense for an agency to raise prices on popular images

I don't quite understand the logic of that. Why would a buyer want to pay more for an image that so many others are using?

If you aren't hoping to sell an image to more than one buyer, then I don't think microstock is a good fit :)

« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2011, 13:22 »
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It makes perfect sense for an agency to raise prices on popular images

I don't quite understand the logic of that. Why would a buyer want to pay more for an image that so many others are using?

If you aren't hoping to sell an image to more than one buyer, then I don't think microstock is a good fit :)

I'm not saying you shouldn't *want* to sell to more than one buyer. I'm just wonder about the logic, as a buyer, of paying more for a very recognizable image that is extremely popular.


 

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