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Agency Based Discussion => iStockPhoto.com => Topic started by: Xalanx on February 16, 2011, 16:00

Title: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: Xalanx on February 16, 2011, 16:00
Anybody tried to upload video to istock lately? I mean independents, those of us who are stuck with their idiotic web upload form. For videos. Over 100 MB size. Maybe 300.
Anyway, the thing is - it keeps crashing with a nice message box with just an ok button. It's kinda annoying, especially after you upload 150 MB and you're at 92%.

On the other hand, is there a software like DeepMeta which can be used to upload video on istock?
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: Snufkin on February 16, 2011, 16:52
I don't upload video to istock anymore, it's masochism.
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: Xalanx on February 16, 2011, 16:55
Yea well I'm in the beginning with video, so I still have some patience left. I heard they can deliver more sales than others, I'm just testing the waters.
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: sharpshot on February 16, 2011, 17:20
Pond5 has been much better for me and they pay a decent commission.  I really think 15% commission, low sales, months for reviews, glitches after a tedious upload and more rejections make istock a waste of time for me.
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: Xalanx on February 16, 2011, 17:27
Months? That's interesting. They took a couple of days to review my application, I was pleasantly surprised.
On the other hand, I have my files in pending since almost 2 weeks on Pond5. Are they reviewing all clips in the pending queue at once for every contributor, as I heard?
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: sharpshot on February 16, 2011, 19:16
Pond5 review times have gradually increased but they're usually 1 to 2 weeks.  They usually review most of mine in one batch but sometimes they split them.  I usually used to wait over a month with istock and sometimes it was much longer.
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: Suljo on February 16, 2011, 20:02
Anybody tried to upload video to istock lately? I mean independents, those of us who are stuck with their idiotic web upload form. For videos. Over 100 MB size. Maybe 300.
Anyway, the thing is - it keeps crashing with a nice message box with just an ok button. It's kinda annoying, especially after you upload 150 MB and you're at 92%.

On the other hand, is there a software like DeepMeta which can be used to upload video on istock?

As independant you can upload video thru FTP too.  ;)
Only thing is that they have problem with FTP processing last 2-3 weeks like with they other F5 fallen things...
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: Will on February 16, 2011, 20:28
Crashing? Sort of like their commission rates then.
Why bother with them when most other video sites pay 40 or 50 percent without the upload hassle? Others also generally regard contributors with some degree of common courtesy and respect as business partners.
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on February 16, 2011, 20:32
Irregardless of the web page, anyone can upload via FTP.  Avoid http at all costs.
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: Xalanx on February 17, 2011, 02:09
They say this on the upload page:

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FTP upload

This method is offered only to exclusive contributors. You must use your own FTP software to upload this way. ...More
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: sharpshot on February 17, 2011, 03:42
They did send me details to use FPT but it was so complicated, I had to look in the forum.  Then I see all the problems they have with FTP.  They also have low sales compared to Pond5 for me and it really isn't worth it for 15% commission.  They should really be paying more commission than Pond5 because they sell less and make me spend lots more time getting clips on the site, so I will upload there again when they raise my commission by 350% :)
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: Suljo on February 17, 2011, 08:25
They say this on the upload page:

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FTP upload

This method is offered only to exclusive contributors. You must use your own FTP software to upload this way. ...More



Eh
This message is when you click on video upload. You forgot that you/we have business with smacks  ;D
Try to go to default upload page
http://www.istockphoto.com/xnet.php (http://www.istockphoto.com/xnet.php)
then go to bottom right there is "Manage you FTP Account"
and there you enter you desired name and pass for FTP client  ;)

also find manual how to upload, its different from uploading to other stock sites but it is OK if you have PAL, NTSC and HD version of same video, also FTP upload is much faster.
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on February 17, 2011, 08:35
They say this on the upload page:
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FTP upload
This method is offered only to exclusive contributors. You must use your own FTP software to upload this way. ...More

Yes, disregard that.  For some reason, it takes 2 years not to remove incorrect information.  Follow the directions as mentioned above.
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: jbarber873 on February 17, 2011, 08:55
   The FTP upload system at Istock, for me, at least, works much better than the web based system, which constantly crashed at 95%. Having said that, it's still an awkward, windows 3.1 style process. It's amazing to me that there are so many bugs in the process, and the servers routinely go offline for long periods. Theres a long running thread in the video forum about it, and the answers are invariably " we are working on it." It takes a good solid month for videos to be approved, and the percentage to contributors is insulting, considering how much effort it takes to create a good video. I still upload to istock, but that's at this point more to try to gain insight into what the end users are looking for, and what sells. As video becomes more mainstream, I hope that Either Pond5 or Revostock will gain enough traction to be the "go to site" for video, but it's not clear at this point that this is happening. Total revenues for me at Pond5 exceed total revenues at istock, but not by much, and different videos sell at different sites. It's all a work in progress for video microstock, but the overall sales rate of growth is excellent. Last year istock sold 9 videos the entire year for me, and this year, I've sold 30 videos there so far. Pond5 has picked up markedly as well, and with the better percentage, out paces istock. I get the feeling that there are two different audiences for these sites, so for right now I'm keeping my options open.
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: tubed on February 17, 2011, 10:16
They did send me details to use FPT but it was so complicated, I had to look in the forum.  Then I see all the problems they have with FTP.  They also have low sales compared to Pond5 for me and it really isn't worth it for 15% commission.  They should really be paying more commission than Pond5 because they sell less and make me spend lots more time getting clips on the site, so I will upload there again when they raise my commission by 350% :)

What would you say their acceptance rate is? similar to images? what do you get rejections for mostly?

 What color is your shirt? what type of toothpaste do you use? --- Just kidding ;)

Pond5 seems to accept almost everything so far.. IS is iffy at best it seems..
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: tubed on February 17, 2011, 10:18
   The FTP upload system at Istock, for me, at least, works much better than the web based system, which constantly crashed at 95%. Having said that, it's still an awkward, windows 3.1 style process. It's amazing to me that there are so many bugs in the process, and the servers routinely go offline for long periods. Theres a long running thread in the video forum about it, and the answers are invariably " we are working on it." It takes a good solid month for videos to be approved, and the percentage to contributors is insulting, considering how much effort it takes to create a good video. I still upload to istock, but that's at this point more to try to gain insight into what the end users are looking for, and what sells. As video becomes more mainstream, I hope that Either Pond5 or Revostock will gain enough traction to be the "go to site" for video, but it's not clear at this point that this is happening. Total revenues for me at Pond5 exceed total revenues at istock, but not by much, and different videos sell at different sites. It's all a work in progress for video microstock, but the overall sales rate of growth is excellent. Last year istock sold 9 videos the entire year for me, and this year, I've sold 30 videos there so far. Pond5 has picked up markedly as well, and with the better percentage, out paces istock. I get the feeling that there are two different audiences for these sites, so for right now I'm keeping my options open.


What are your thoughts on their acceptance rates? It seems they have quite a few sales but it is lower than P5 in revenue because of the commission structure.. You think that is accurate?
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: Xalanx on February 17, 2011, 10:27
They say this on the upload page:

Quote
FTP upload

This method is offered only to exclusive contributors. You must use your own FTP software to upload this way. ...More



Eh
This message is when you click on video upload. You forgot that you/we have business with smacks  ;D
Try to go to default upload page
[url]http://www.istockphoto.com/xnet.php[/url] ([url]http://www.istockphoto.com/xnet.php[/url])
then go to bottom right there is "Manage you FTP Account"
and there you enter you desired name and pass for FTP client  ;)

also find manual how to upload, its different from uploading to other stock sites but it is OK if you have PAL, NTSC and HD version of same video, also FTP upload is much faster.


Great, thanks! I applied for an ftp account. I am making a single version of every video, everytime 1080p, everytime quicktime photo jpeg codec, so it should be smooth...? ;D
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: Suljo on February 17, 2011, 11:06
Here I find upload manual. Hope its not outdated.
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: Xalanx on February 17, 2011, 11:14
Here I find upload manual. Hope its not outdated.

Thanks, mate. You saved me a lot of time with this!
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: sharpshot on February 17, 2011, 12:45
They did send me details to use FPT but it was so complicated, I had to look in the forum.  Then I see all the problems they have with FTP.  They also have low sales compared to Pond5 for me and it really isn't worth it for 15% commission.  They should really be paying more commission than Pond5 because they sell less and make me spend lots more time getting clips on the site, so I will upload there again when they raise my commission by 350% :)

What would you say their acceptance rate is? similar to images? what do you get rejections for mostly?

 What color is your shirt? what type of toothpaste do you use? --- Just kidding ;)

Pond5 seems to accept almost everything so far.. IS is iffy at best it seems..
I don't know any more because I stopped uploading to istock.  15% commission is too low for me.  They did accept most of my clips, except timelpase clouds.  They have lots of those but I have sold a few on other sites.
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: tubed on February 17, 2011, 13:21
They did send me details to use FPT but it was so complicated, I had to look in the forum.  Then I see all the problems they have with FTP.  They also have low sales compared to Pond5 for me and it really isn't worth it for 15% commission.  They should really be paying more commission than Pond5 because they sell less and make me spend lots more time getting clips on the site, so I will upload there again when they raise my commission by 350% :)

What would you say their acceptance rate is? similar to images? what do you get rejections for mostly?

 What color is your shirt? what type of toothpaste do you use? --- Just kidding ;)

Pond5 seems to accept almost everything so far.. IS is iffy at best it seems..
I don't know any more because I stopped uploading to istock.  15% commission is too low for me.  They did accept most of my clips, except timelpase clouds.  They have lots of those but I have sold a few on other sites.

I agree 100%.. I have been holding off uploading for the moment, to see how things play out.. I was just more curious for the comparison aspect of P5 and IS..
Title: Re: istock video upload keeps crashing
Post by: jbarber873 on February 17, 2011, 14:54
   The FTP upload system at Istock, for me, at least, works much better than the web based system, which constantly crashed at 95%. Having said that, it's still an awkward, windows 3.1 style process. It's amazing to me that there are so many bugs in the process, and the servers routinely go offline for long periods. Theres a long running thread in the video forum about it, and the answers are invariably " we are working on it." It takes a good solid month for videos to be approved, and the percentage to contributors is insulting, considering how much effort it takes to create a good video. I still upload to istock, but that's at this point more to try to gain insight into what the end users are looking for, and what sells. As video becomes more mainstream, I hope that Either Pond5 or Revostock will gain enough traction to be the "go to site" for video, but it's not clear at this point that this is happening. Total revenues for me at Pond5 exceed total revenues at istock, but not by much, and different videos sell at different sites. It's all a work in progress for video microstock, but the overall sales rate of growth is excellent. Last year istock sold 9 videos the entire year for me, and this year, I've sold 30 videos there so far. Pond5 has picked up markedly as well, and with the better percentage, out paces istock. I get the feeling that there are two different audiences for these sites, so for right now I'm keeping my options open.


What are your thoughts on their acceptance rates? It seems they have quite a few sales but it is lower than P5 in revenue because of the commission structure.. You think that is accurate?

    Istock as alway rejects files on a regular basis. Pond5 takes almost everything. In retrospect, Istocks rejections are pretty much justified. I stopped uploading to fotolia because their rejections were arbitrary and arrogant. Add to that the fact that they almost never sell a video, and it's easy to cut them off the list. Istock, on the other hand, sells an increasing number of videos as time goes on. I look at total return, not what I get for an individual file. That may change as my portfolio, and the market, grows.