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Agency Based Discussion => iStockPhoto.com => Topic started by: CofkoCof on October 02, 2008, 11:59

Title: Keyword wizzard
Post by: CofkoCof on October 02, 2008, 11:59
Online application for keywording. Can be used for other agencies also but is most suited for IS:
http://www.deepmeta.com/Tools/Wizard/

IS topic about it:
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=75864&page=1
Title: Re: Keyword wizzard
Post by: melastmohican on October 02, 2008, 12:58
Mostly useless for my type of photos (nature, landscape) . A lot of very technical categories (composition, type of focus, light type) which can be used almost for any type of photo so it's just spamming. Probably useful for illustrators and designers who create sets of objects with different layout or colors.

Yuri Arcurs got much better stuff here: http://arcurs.com/keywording/
Title: Re: Keyword wizzard
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on October 02, 2008, 13:49
It isn't "spamming" if it applies to the image.
Title: Re: Keyword wizzard
Post by: melastmohican on October 02, 2008, 14:44
It added word "image" to results. It can apply to almost anything and how it would help a search engine to find relevant file?

Can you tell how many results would this set of keywords generate: "Image, Horizontal, Color Image, Nobody, Summer, Outdoors, Landscape, Non-Urban Scene"? Adding them will make no difference I think.
Title: Re: Keyword wizzard
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on October 02, 2008, 16:08
"image" could help someone who might not be looking for a vector and couldn't check off the box.  Same for "horizontal" and such.  Yes, there are options in "advanced search", but some buyers may have Getty's workflow in mind, as do the keyword inspectors.

And it still isn't spam if it applies.

You don't use a bunch of those generic-ish words at the same time.  You use them like:
"fishing, dock, summer, outdoors"
or
"horizontal, nobody, pumpkin"

etc...
Title: Re: Keyword wizzard
Post by: melastmohican on October 02, 2008, 16:46
I usually do not keyword for any specific agency so I prefer specific keywords over generic ones. I would rather keep only "pumpkin" and get rid of generic ones. More over some of this generic ones like "horizontal" can be auto generated (width > height). Soon every site might have face recognition software which may tell if there are people present :-)
Title: Re: Keyword wizzard
Post by: madelaide on October 02, 2008, 19:16
I use horizontal, macro, outdoors and other such words.  If IS's CV have them, I can only believe they are acceptable, if coherent with the photo.

Recently I had some images wikied at IS and, apart from removing valid keywords and some stretches, they had "nobody" or "focus on foreground" added.  I never thought of the latter, but "nobody" in fact can be useful.  Try to search "stethoscope isolated on white" and you see tons of pages of nurses and doctors before you find a photo of a stethoscope only.

Yes, I think I will start using "nobody" more often.  I hope it helps.

Regards,
Adelaide
Title: Re: Keyword wizzard
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on October 02, 2008, 19:41
I usually do not keyword for any specific agency so I prefer specific keywords over generic ones. I would rather keep only "pumpkin" and get rid of generic ones. More over some of this generic ones like "horizontal" can be auto generated (width > height). Soon every site might have face recognition software which may tell if there are people present :-)

You can do whatever you want.  Doesn't mean that they won't get added at IS...
Title: Re: Keyword wizzard
Post by: Graffoto on October 02, 2008, 20:42
Looks interesting, but I'm a Mac user  :)
Title: Re: Keyword wizzard
Post by: CofkoCof on October 03, 2008, 04:55
Looks interesting, but I'm a Mac user  :)

Keyowording is done on the web page so I think you should be ok :D
Title: Re: Keyword wizzard
Post by: leaf on October 03, 2008, 05:04
wow, it looks like he put a lot of work into that!

His deepmeta program is also very usefull.