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Agency Based Discussion => iStockPhoto.com => Topic started by: The Mighty Jungle on May 19, 2020, 13:52

Title: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: The Mighty Jungle on May 19, 2020, 13:52
April is probably the month when we all started feeling the results of Covid19
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: Dumc on May 19, 2020, 13:56
My April earnings are better than January or February but not as god as March's, which happened to be my BME.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: ShadySue on May 19, 2020, 13:59
Horrendous, and rpd down to $1, which isn't exactly motivating. (no covid content). First time in many years I haven't reached payout, including years when you could get payout each week in which you earned $100.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: Pauws99 on May 19, 2020, 14:10
Poor but not a disaster after a couple of rising months.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: scribble on May 19, 2020, 14:11
When I saw my earnings, my first reaction ws "Holy Mother of God, that's horrible."

Time has not healed that wound.

This is my worst month in more than two years, and I even  had some COVID-19 related sales.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: Chichikov on May 19, 2020, 14:52
Best month since the beginning of the year!
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: wds on May 19, 2020, 17:11
not good, but I haven't seen that in the other agencies
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: YadaYadaYada on May 19, 2020, 20:48
April is probably the month when we all started feeling the results of Covid19

For those looking for a tipping point from bad to dead, this is it. Economics, sales, earnings, there's the end of the story. We'll have defenders but this month is the end.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: Artist on May 19, 2020, 22:03
Way bad.. I was expecting to be down, but so much?
Nearly 50% down here.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: Roscoe on May 20, 2020, 00:21
not great, not terrible
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: panicAttack on May 20, 2020, 03:12
almost 50% lower then last year

If this continues to fall like that I will have to remove my portfolio from there.

I can stand selling for low 0.02 as long as overall earnings are great, but if total monthly earnings fall down any more then there is no reason to sell for 0.02 anymore
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: 08stock08 on May 20, 2020, 03:56
It is a significant dip indeed but not so much so that would inspire one to exit the agency. April data is everywhere same. On other platform Youtube, During April, I got 35% more views and 35% lesser pay than March. Yes, Payout is not a problem there. Now, for this month of May, if you take any indicators from numbers, the CPM value has increased and Per 1000 views pay is getting better. This all indicates that world is returning to work, advertisers are coming back, film and creative industry is getting back to production. May data looks better than April. On Microstock sites too, the sentiments are same. May looks better than April.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: Artist on May 20, 2020, 05:36
It is a significant dip indeed but not so much so that would inspire one to exit the agency. April data is everywhere same. On other platform Youtube, During April, I got 35% more views and 35% lesser pay than March. Yes, Payout is not a problem there. Now, for this month of May, if you take any indicators from numbers, the CPM value has increased and Per 1000 views pay is getting better. This all indicates that world is returning to work, advertisers are coming back, film and creative industry is getting back to production. May data looks better than April. On Microstock sites too, the sentiments are same. May looks better than April.

PM me your youtube channel
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: noelbennett235 on May 20, 2020, 06:59
Does IStock rely on newspapers to self report their use of IStock images?
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: ShadySue on May 20, 2020, 07:47
Does IStock rely on newspapers to self report their use of IStock images?
I've never heard of it, if so.  (Alamy does)
If a newspaper is using an image for which you have no sales, and you are exclusive to iS, take out a ticket to report your concern.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: noelbennett235 on May 20, 2020, 09:08
ShadySue


Thanks
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: 08stock08 on May 20, 2020, 10:26
It is a significant dip indeed but not so much so that would inspire one to exit the agency. April data is everywhere same. On other platform Youtube, During April, I got 35% more views and 35% lesser pay than March. Yes, Payout is not a problem there. Now, for this month of May, if you take any indicators from numbers, the CPM value has increased and Per 1000 views pay is getting better. This all indicates that world is returning to work, advertisers are coming back, film and creative industry is getting back to production. May data looks better than April. On Microstock sites too, the sentiments are same. May looks better than April.

PM me your youtube channel

Sent you PM with link to channel.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: charged on May 20, 2020, 10:43
Terrible month. *sigh*
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: ShadySue on May 20, 2020, 17:39
ShadySue
Thanks
Oh, but I've just remembered there can be quite a delay in reporting the sale to you, particularly if the image was sold via Getty, even indie pics can be sold via the Getty Connect scheme. So there's supposed to be a time which has to lapse before you take out a ticket. I'm looking for that info, but haven't found it yet.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: Noedelhap on May 20, 2020, 18:45
I can buy exactly two beers with this month's revenue. I'm not joking.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: Roscoe on May 21, 2020, 02:07
Oh, but I've just remembered there can be quite a delay in reporting the sale to you, particularly if the image was sold via Getty, even indie pics can be sold via the Getty Connect scheme. So there's supposed to be a time which has to lapse before you take out a ticket. I'm looking for that info, but haven't found it yet.

Nobody really seems to know what Connect is allabout. As far as I understood, it's a pay-per-view system, and you need thousands of views in order to reach the 2$c payout threshold. So if your image ends up on let's say Pinterest, getting a few hunderd views per month, you'll get nothing and Getty gets just a little bit next to nothing? For contributors - at least this is how I understood it - the counters are reset per month per image, for Getty/iStock, they keep on rolling for all of the images across the years? In many cases, the pennies are for Getty, and the contributor gets zero. If your image is on a roll somewhere, but gets a reset due to the end of the month, you still might get nothing, or less than you should have gotten. There's also no detailed reporting, at least not for 2020, they just report your income, and for 2019 you get a gibberish text file with also barely any info.

No matter how you look at it, it feels like a true ripoff, and there's no way to opt-out.

That said, I do see income from Connect, although it's not much, and probably less than I would have gotten if I uploaded the image to e.g. pixabay and rely on donations.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: eyewave on May 21, 2020, 02:53
Almost exactly half of last month - but that happened to be the best month in several years, mostly due to ~$200 Connect income from Israel alone. Really wonder which image(s) that were.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: qunamax on May 21, 2020, 05:02
BME thanks to one old photo they all thought was covid related.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: cobalt on May 21, 2020, 06:34
80 sales, 44 dollars. I haven‘t uploaded much in over 8 years, so I guess this is a very fair result. I have around 4000 legacy files.

I have started to upload to istock again, I have quite a backlog of newer files from the last 8 years. Especially if they haven‘t really sold, I think I can try to wring some last cents out of them.

Also istock takes editorial.

I am also curious how the portfolio behaves if it gets content again.

Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: ShadySue on May 21, 2020, 07:40
Oh, but I've just remembered there can be quite a delay in reporting the sale to you, particularly if the image was sold via Getty, even indie pics can be sold via the Getty Connect scheme. So there's supposed to be a time which has to lapse before you take out a ticket. I'm looking for that info, but haven't found it yet.

Nobody really seems to know what Connect is allabout. As far as I understood, it's a pay-per-view system, and you need thousands of views in order to reach the 2$c payout threshold. So if your image ends up on let's say Pinterest, getting a few hunderd views per month, you'll get nothing and Getty gets just a little bit next to nothing? For contributors - at least this is how I understood it - the counters are reset per month per image, for Getty/iStock, they keep on rolling for all of the images across the years? In many cases, the pennies are for Getty, and the contributor gets zero. If your image is on a roll somewhere, but gets a reset due to the end of the month, you still might get nothing, or less than you should have gotten. There's also no detailed reporting, at least not for 2020, they just report your income, and for 2019 you get a gibberish text file with also barely any info.

No matter how you look at it, it feels like a true ripoff, and there's no way to opt-out.

That said, I do see income from Connect, although it's not much, and probably less than I would have gotten if I uploaded the image to e.g. pixabay and rely on donations.

Yes, I got muddled. What I should have said was the scheme which I think is now called Getty 360, formerly Getty Plus, whereby a particular group of buyers gets access to all Getty and iStock files seamlessly, and that includes indie files. I think that is one of several ways (and increasing) in which they can pay exclusives only 20%, by claiming it was a Getty sale, not iStock, but they still pay indies 15%.

And yes, the Connect scheme is yet another way for Getty to aggregate tiny amounts over a long time, while only paying us a pittance if our share of the earnings reaches 1c in a calendar month.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: Orchidpoet on May 21, 2020, 12:12
Not a good month, I am not surprised.

But it's still far more reliable than Alamy. At least I get monthly payment with 3000+ images and a handful clips.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: Cider Apple on May 22, 2020, 05:57
After an average start to the year, this month on Getty was particularly strong beating the last 2 Aprils by quite a lot. I seemed to have a lot more sales in the Royalty Free Footage section. I think that may be the istock side of things or clips selling on Getty and not through the premium access? Anyway hope it continues?
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: Uncle Pete on May 22, 2020, 10:05
RPD 0.28 average and worst month ever since I joined iStock.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: tickstock on May 26, 2020, 02:02
Not as terrible as I expected, for what that's worth.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: charged on May 26, 2020, 12:41
Not a great month. Less than the previous month. Still enough to pay the bills.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: johnmessingham on May 29, 2020, 05:45
Hi All,

Anybody had any 'RF Market Freeze' sales yet?
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: fotoVoyager on May 29, 2020, 05:52
Hi All,

Anybody had any 'RF Market Freeze' sales yet?

I've had one.

I don't think anyone's going to have a problem with the amounts involved.

The real problem for iStock Exclusives is the lack of download credits.
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: ShadySue on May 29, 2020, 06:17
Hi All,

Anybody had any 'RF Market Freeze' sales yet?
I've had one.
I don't think anyone's going to have a problem with the amounts involved.
The real problem for iStock Exclusives is the lack of download credits.
Are market freeze images at 20% (15% for indies) or at your iStock rate (if exclusive)?
Title: Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
Post by: fotoVoyager on May 29, 2020, 10:03
They come through Getty, so whatever rate you get there.