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« Reply #425 on: January 20, 2012, 19:57 »
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So, I imagine you vomiting your guts for a full week when Steve Jobs died an tens of thousands os posts about him were posted in public forums.


« Reply #426 on: January 20, 2012, 20:06 »
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Maybe indie's lack of sympathy has something to do with having been screwed repeatedly for two solid years.  As Peter from Stockfresh (founder of StockXpert) reminded us the other day, he remembers the day when everyone at IS was celebrating StockXpert's demise while we were freaking out about our futures.   

« Reply #427 on: January 20, 2012, 20:13 »
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"Everyone was celebrating". Never saw this thread. I suppose it is futile to ask for a link.

« Reply #428 on: January 20, 2012, 20:15 »
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:D I scanned some of it when it first when up. I had enough of the cultish adoration after a couple pages. No way I could stomach 12 of them!

But you must, honestly. The amusement factor actually increases the further you get as the faithful try to outbid each other with ever more elaborate swooning and exultations of the fallen. You couldn't make this stuff up __ it's comedy gold.

Perhaps the irony of your attitude is lost on you. So, I'll explain it to you. You are deriding people for having what you perceive to be an an extreme reaction to an event and yet you reacte extremely to their action feeling the need to write as mockingly as you possibly can with the differentiial being that they are trying to express being nice and you are trying to expres being mean and you are very convincing.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #429 on: January 20, 2012, 20:17 »
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What sickens me is the childish bickering.  May each mourn in each's own way ... or celebrate.
It's pretty obvious which is which.  Why go to the funeral (istock forum) if you feel sick?

« Reply #430 on: January 20, 2012, 20:18 »
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So, I imagine you vomiting your guts for a full week when Steve Jobs died an tens of thousands os posts about him were posted in public forums.

Being as Jobs was actually dead it was probably a little tricky to send him a PM. It is also beyond question that Jobs was a truly remarkable man, known throughout the world and all of us have benefited from how he 'changed the World', even if you never bought any of his products.

Not sure I fully understand your comparison with Jobs and a French-Canadian beardie who looked at digital images for a living.

« Reply #431 on: January 20, 2012, 20:19 »
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Maybe indie's lack of sympathy has something to do with having been screwed repeatedly for two solid years.  As Peter from Stockfresh (founder of StockXpert) reminded us the other day, he remembers the day when everyone at IS was celebrating StockXpert's demise while we were freaking out about our futures.   

Hmmm __ maybe.

« Reply #432 on: January 20, 2012, 20:21 »
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So, I imagine you vomiting your guts for a full week when Steve Jobs died an tens of thousands os posts about him were posted in public forums.

Being as Jobs was actually dead it was probably a little tricky to send him a PM. It is also beyond question that Jobs was a truly remarkable man, known throughout the world and all of us have benefited from how he 'changed the World', even if you never bought any of his products.

Not sure I fully understand your comparison with Jobs and a French-Canadian beardie who looked at digital images for a living.

Do you genuinely feel better for putting others down? Are you really that unsuccessful?

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #433 on: January 20, 2012, 20:21 »
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Maybe indie's lack of sympathy has something to do with having been screwed repeatedly for two solid years.  As Peter from Stockfresh (founder of StockXpert) reminded us the other day, he remembers the day when everyone at IS was celebrating StockXpert's demise while we were freaking out about our futures.   
I guess that counts as hyperbole, then.

« Reply #434 on: January 20, 2012, 20:22 »
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So, I imagine you vomiting your guts for a full week when Steve Jobs died an tens of thousands os posts about him were posted in public forums.

Being as Jobs was actually dead it was probably a little tricky to send him a PM. It is also beyond question that Jobs was a truly remarkable man, known throughout the world and all of us have benefited from how he 'changed the World', even if you never bought any of his products.

Not sure I fully understand your comparison with Jobs and a French-Canadian beardie who looked at digital images for a living.

Not. But now I understad the kind of person you are.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #435 on: January 20, 2012, 20:24 »
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So, I imagine you vomiting your guts for a full week when Steve Jobs died an tens of thousands os posts about him were posted in public forums.

Being as Jobs was actually dead it was probably a little tricky to send him a PM. It is also beyond question that Jobs was a truly remarkable man, known throughout the world and all of us have benefited from how he 'changed the World', even if you never bought any of his products.

Not sure I fully understand your comparison with Jobs and a French-Canadian beardie who looked at digital images for a living.

Do you genuinely feel better for putting others down? Are you really that unsuccessful?

To belittle is to be little.

« Reply #436 on: January 20, 2012, 20:30 »
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"Everyone was celebrating". Never saw this thread. I suppose it is futile to ask for a link.


Since I didn't see the thread either, all I can do is show you Peter's post, which is on page one of this thread.

http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/layoffs-at-istock-today/msg239116/#msg239116

And I stand corrected.  He said "some," not "everyone."

« Reply #437 on: January 20, 2012, 20:34 »
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I've already read that the captain didn't exactly 'trip and fall' into a lifeboat - he landed in one when the ship's deck tilted to 70 degrees and he slid off the deck.  

I wonder what the chances of *that* are, and if other people had as fortuitous a sliding. :D

Maybe the lifeboats were still suspended and hadn't been lowered into the water yet.  I read that part of the problem was that while the ship was tipping and unstable,  they were afraid that if they lowered the lifeboats, the ship might come down on top of them.  Who knows?  Let's meet here a year from now and discuss what really happened.  

I can totally see that happening. But the question is then, why didn't they get back out of the lifeboats? If they couldn't, when they reached the water or land or wherever the lifeboats went, why didn't the captain go back to the ship? Lots of questions and we may not know the truth for YEARS.

When the coast guard officer told him to get back on the ship, the captain tried to tell him that it was completely black out there, they couldn't see a thing.  I don't imagine it was easy, trying to decide what to do.  At that point he had a lot of people in lifeboats and maybe some in the water, all needing help and guidance.  Trying to get himself and some crew members back onto a ship leaning at 70%, in pitch darkness, might just get more people killed and he might have had his hands full with the people right around him.  So easy to second guess this guy, who was already extremely stressed out knowing he'd made a huge mistake, and with people in panic...  
« Last Edit: January 20, 2012, 20:37 by stockastic »

« Reply #438 on: January 20, 2012, 20:37 »
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fair enough but then there is also the issue of his showboating and wrecking the ship in the first place.

« Reply #439 on: January 20, 2012, 20:40 »
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"Everyone was celebrating". Never saw this thread. I suppose it is futile to ask for a link.


Since I didn't see the thread either, all I can do is show you Peter's post, which is on page one of this thread.

http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/layoffs-at-istock-today/msg239116/#msg239116

And I stand corrected.  He said "some," not "everyone."


Honestly I cannot remember ever hearing or reading someonecheering stockexperts closure on the istock forums. Not saying it didnt happen, but I genuinly dont remember it. It also doesnt make a lot of sense - didnt stockexpert promote istock exclusive images on the top of the site for a while? At least i remember seeing my easter eggs there and had the impression it was good for them.

But since it must have been terrible for him, I am sure he knows what he saw. Something like that you dont forget.

« Reply #440 on: January 20, 2012, 20:41 »
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JJRD has such a "following" because he worked his a** off for the contributors, literally. And over the years he has personally met and interacted with thousands of people, assisted us at shootings, responded personally to our sitemails etc...there is a reason why he will be missed. Just like Rob Sylvan or Bruce, strong character, strong personality.

JJ pushed for things I wanted ... I'm not gonna hold back a few kind words for the guy.

« Reply #441 on: January 20, 2012, 20:47 »
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Do you genuinely feel better for putting others down? Are you really that unsuccessful?

I most certainly am that 'unsuccessful'. It's something I have to deal with constantly whilst I'm working on my golf handicap. I do appreciate your concern though.

I'm just trying to give a sense of perspective regarding JJRD, et al. This isn't the Istock forum btw __ over here you are actually allowed to say what you think. Ok?

« Reply #442 on: January 20, 2012, 20:52 »
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"Everyone was celebrating". Never saw this thread. I suppose it is futile to ask for a link.


Since I didn't see the thread either, all I can do is show you Peter's post, which is on page one of this thread.

http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/layoffs-at-istock-today/msg239116/#msg239116

And I stand corrected.  He said "some," not "everyone."


Honestly I cannot remember ever hearing or reading someonecheering stockexperts closure on the istock forums. Not saying it didnt happen, but I genuinly dont remember it. It also doesnt make a lot of sense - didnt stockexpert promote istock exclusive images on the top of the site for a while? At least i remember seeing my easter eggs there and had the impression it was good for them.

But since it must have been terrible for him, I am sure he knows what he saw. Something like that you dont forget.


Am I mistaken? Or this Peter and his partners sold stockxpert to Jupiter and then Jupiter sold to Getty?

« Reply #443 on: January 20, 2012, 21:01 »
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"Everyone was celebrating". Never saw this thread. I suppose it is futile to ask for a link.


Since I didn't see the thread either, all I can do is show you Peter's post, which is on page one of this thread.

http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/layoffs-at-istock-today/msg239116/#msg239116

And I stand corrected.  He said "some," not "everyone."


Honestly I cannot remember ever hearing or reading someonecheering stockexperts closure on the istock forums. Not saying it didnt happen, but I genuinly dont remember it. It also doesnt make a lot of sense - didnt stockexpert promote istock exclusive images on the top of the site for a while? At least i remember seeing my easter eggs there and had the impression it was good for them.

But since it must have been terrible for him, I am sure he knows what he saw. Something like that you dont forget.


Am I mistaken? Or this Peter and his partners sold stockxpert to Jupiter and then Jupiter sold to Getty?


You're right.  Same guy. 

« Reply #444 on: January 20, 2012, 21:18 »
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Do you genuinely feel better for putting others down? Are you really that unsuccessful?

I most certainly am that 'unsuccessful'. It's something I have to deal with constantly whilst I'm working on my golf handicap. I do appreciate your concern though.

I'm just trying to give a sense of perspective regarding JJRD, et al. This isn't the Istock forum btw __ over here you are actually allowed to say what you think. Ok?

I have no concern for you - please see my earlier post on my thoughts about you as I'm all for saying what I think. But thanks for trying to tell me how fora work.

« Reply #445 on: January 20, 2012, 21:23 »
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In the interest of fairness I decided to post in the HQ thread. But if its tampered or erased/edited out, I want to post it here for preservation.   Thanks!

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About 14 months ago the company made a decision to cut many of our royalties by large amounts in order to remain sustainable.

The company is still here be it because of that or other circumstances; however sales across the board have slowed from the smaller producer to the image factory entrepreneur.

With all the savings that were allocated from exclusives and non exclusives; what is being done to regain the trust of buyers and suppliers in order to once again be where the company 2 years ago proclaimed to be not only healthy but on top of the business with large growth.

We have been left in the dark regarding the state of the company, future prospects and leadership guidance that used to characterize iStock.  Every December- January Bruce and Kelly gave a sort of state of iStock message with lots of info regarding the company's performance, growth, success and decisions to carry it forward.

This time around we had to find out in 3rd party blogs that a significant part of the company was let go and after it was not contained we got an official message from HQ.

We as suppliers of content need to know where the ship is, where its headed and if its healthy for the voyage ahead.  We don't need exact figures, we need credible assurances by real people. We have been kept in the dark for so long that the trust we once possessed has almost extinguished.

So in concise terms:

How is the company doing?

What is being done to improve the bottom line of contributors?

What steps necessary are being considered to retain current buyers and attract new ones or those that searched elsewhere?

What value does exclusivity play in all of this, considering many of us have battered a pretty unreliable year?

What incentives are being considered to keep exclusives and attract non-exclusive content to iStock first, instead of the competition? Non exclusive search has been at the back with many withdrawing new uploads.

Has Video been affected by these changes and in what measure?  Can we expect better competitive pricing structures, editorial video and faster inspections that are competitive with other sites?

We all want a healthy company and an even healthier communication between the parts.   We contributors have patiently waited for your side to show interest in keeping us informed. We are all ears and are prepared to listen and understand current developments.

Thank you!

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« Reply #446 on: January 20, 2012, 21:29 »
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"You were the wind beneath my wings" .... BLEEEAAARRRRHHH



OMG, someone really said that?

« Reply #447 on: January 20, 2012, 21:35 »
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Well said, James!

« Reply #448 on: January 20, 2012, 21:40 »
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"You were the wind beneath my wings" .... BLEEEAAARRRRHHH



OMG, someone really said that?

Sadly they did __ and worse. Really it is too embarrassing and distressing to discuss any further. I'm quite literally sick of the nausea such posts generate when I view them.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #449 on: January 20, 2012, 21:53 »
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