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Title: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Uncle Pete on April 15, 2014, 11:04
Jan reporting of Dec. was started on the 28th
Feb. reporting of Jan. was the 24th
March reporting of Feb was the 14th

Last Monday of the month?
Then March mid-month.

Here's hoping that some people will be seeing things and reporting here by the 18th?
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Goofy on April 15, 2014, 12:58
"Here's hoping that some people will be seeing things and reporting here by the 18th?"

You already drinking this early in the day ;D

Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Mantis on April 15, 2014, 15:23
I want to be the first to say that I haven't received a penny from March pp. ;D
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Goofy on April 15, 2014, 15:51
I want to be the first to say that I haven't received a penny from March pp. ;D


Too bad the PP is already over for March  ;D



Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Julied83 on April 15, 2014, 16:04
I bet it's gonna be at the very end of the month, because they have to deal with subscription too  ;D
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Beppe Grillo on April 16, 2014, 05:28
Just got $ 10,000,000 of PP sales

in my dreams…
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: enstoker on April 16, 2014, 06:51
Just got $ 10,000,000 of PP sales

in my dreams…

And You will return $ 15.000.000 because of small IS morons mistake.
Of course in 6 month...
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: jefftakespics2 on April 16, 2014, 07:15
Just got $ 10,000,000 of PP sales

in my dreams…

And You will return $ 15.000.000 because of small IS morons mistake.
Of course in 6 month...

...but the payback is in easy monthly payments!
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Goofy on April 16, 2014, 08:38
Just got $ 10,000,000 of PP sales

in my dreams…

Okay, I want whatever you are drinking or taking!  :)

Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Mantis on April 16, 2014, 09:02
Just got $ 10,000,000 of PP sales

in my dreams…


I want some of what you are drinking!!! 8)
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Mantis on April 16, 2014, 09:05
Just got $ 10,000,000 of PP sales

in my dreams…

Or your baking recipes :D
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: fritz on April 16, 2014, 09:25
Just got $ 10,000,000 of PP sales

in my dreams…


I want some of what you are drinking!!! 8)
A couple of Jameson bottles will do the job!
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Uncle Pete on April 16, 2014, 12:28
So you suggest I should be waiting until at least Noon?  8)

"Here's hoping that some people will be seeing things and reporting here by the 18th?"

You already drinking this early in the day ;D
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Ploink on April 17, 2014, 00:36
StockXpert reported yesterday, so it should be one or two weeks at the most until IS follows suit...  ;D
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on April 17, 2014, 02:51
StockXpert reported yesterday, so it should be one or two weeks at the most until IS follows suit...  ;D

One or two weeks would mean before May 1, wouldn't it? ;)
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Fairplay on April 17, 2014, 16:38
March Reporting of PP sales just started  ;)
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Julied83 on April 17, 2014, 16:44
Got one for the 1st march ! YEAH !
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Nikovsk on April 17, 2014, 19:01
Is there a way to see when exactly the files were sold via PP?
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Goofy on April 17, 2014, 20:13
Jan reporting of Dec. was started on the 28th
Feb. reporting of Jan. was the 24th
March reporting of Feb was the 14th

Last Monday of the month?
Then March mid-month.

Here's hoping that some people will be seeing things and reporting here by the 18th?

Uncle Pete you hit the bullseye! Thus you earn an heart from me! Good call!
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Uncle Pete on April 17, 2014, 22:11
Even a blind pig will find a truffle now and then.  8)

Ooh Ooh, I got some green lines just now. Fairplay wins the first report contest, which is like having your homing pigeon fly over and leave some dropping on your head, but not come to the cage so you can log it in.  :o


Jan reporting of Dec. was started on the 28th
Feb. reporting of Jan. was the 24th
March reporting of Feb was the 14th

Last Monday of the month?
Then March mid-month.

Here's hoping that some people will be seeing things and reporting here by the 18th?

Uncle Pete you hit the bullseye! Thus you earn an heart from me! Good call!
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Batman on April 18, 2014, 08:14
I bet it's gonna be at the very end of the month, because they have to deal with subscription too  ;D

Not till next month.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: gostwyck on April 18, 2014, 08:41
With a third of the month in so far my download numbers are looking to be about 30% down from the norm.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: ShadySue on April 18, 2014, 08:47
Why was gostwyk's post marked down?
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: dingles on April 18, 2014, 09:11
Are these Thinkstock sales only? Or are IS subscriptions included...if the former then they are on par, if the latter than they are awful :)
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: dingles on April 18, 2014, 09:12
Sorry brain fart...I realized these are March..duh... ::)
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Uncle Pete on April 18, 2014, 09:26
This page or did you mean something more specific?

http://www.istockphoto.com/user_stats.php?id=&Offset=0&DownloadsGraphFileType= (http://www.istockphoto.com/user_stats.php?id=&Offset=0&DownloadsGraphFileType=)

Is there a way to see when exactly the files were sold via PP?


That's my best results, maybe someone else has something to teach me? I can see My Uploads and Partner Program and see totals for items, but no dates there.

Same area I see Subscription Sales which is old. I wonder if the new will be divided between there for IS and the PP sales for TS. That would be a good start?
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Nikovsk on April 18, 2014, 09:57
That's what I was looking for, thank you!
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: miketravels on April 18, 2014, 16:23
Has anyone had any editorial sales on thinkstock?

Most of my sales on ss are editorial so its odd to only get rf when thinkstock now have all my editorial shots.

Also what's the deal with IS subscription. Has anyone had any of those sales appear yet?

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Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: lisafx on April 18, 2014, 16:49
I can't speak to editorial shots, but Istock subs for April are going to be reported next month with the April PP numbers. 
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: YadaYadaYada on April 18, 2014, 18:48
I can't speak to editorial shots, but Istock subs for April are going to be reported next month with the April PP numbers.

As subscription or as PP? There's a subscriotion reporting heading for IS already.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: 08stock08 on April 18, 2014, 18:57
I got numbers reflecting March now. PP sale is visible there now.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: miketravels on April 18, 2014, 20:25
Thanks Lisafx. I missed that. :-)

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Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: ShadySue on April 18, 2014, 20:39
I can't speak to editorial shots, but Istock subs for April are going to be reported next month with the April PP numbers.

As subscription or as PP? There's a subscriotion reporting heading for IS already.

As PP according to the email and OP in the iS thread.
The subscription reporting heading is for the previously-existing iStock subs.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on April 18, 2014, 22:54
With a third of the month in so far my download numbers are looking to be about 30% down from the norm.

Were you taking account of the fact the first 10 days included two weekends? It's up the to 21st now and is easily on course to be my best PP month this year. Overall, March 2014 on iStock looks as if it will just about equal March 2013 (though that was an unusually bad month for me).
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Red Dove on April 19, 2014, 02:06
Bumper month so far and a possible BME, for which I might usually perform a cartwheel or two - however, given their recent ineptitude I'm always wondering if they've got their sums wrong again.

A+ for their work if the sales are pukka, a big fat F otherwise.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Newsfocus1 on April 19, 2014, 02:40
Has anyone had any editorial sales on thinkstock?

Most of my sales on ss are editorial so its odd to only get rf when thinkstock now have all my editorial shots.




Thanks for asking that! I had no idea that editorial images were now also available on Thinkstock. In my case it doesn't look like they have all been mirrored yet as my Thinkstock port is about 350 less in quantity than I have on Istock.

For anyone else that didn't know about this, here's a thread about it on the Istock forum http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=359870&page=1 (http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=359870&page=1)
Regards, David.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: spike on April 19, 2014, 09:13
PP for March is killer!

Well beyond my expectations.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Shelma1 on April 19, 2014, 09:54
PP for me is what I'd expect based on my regular sales. BME for me (until the coming clawback).
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: miketravels on April 19, 2014, 10:05
Has anyone had any editorial sales on thinkstock?

Most of my sales on ss are editorial so its odd to only get rf when thinkstock now have all my editorial shots.




Thanks for asking that! I had no idea that editorial images were now also available on Thinkstock. In my case it doesn't look like they have all been mirrored yet as my Thinkstock port is about 350 less in quantity than I have on Istock.

For anyone else that didn't know about this, here's a thread about it on the Istock forum [url]http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=359870&page=1[/url] ([url]http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=359870&page=1[/url])
Regards, David.


Thanks for this. I used the script Kelvin mentioned and can see editorial sales using that :-)

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Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Goofy on April 19, 2014, 10:51
PP for March is killer!

Well beyond my expectations.

Boy this sounds familiar! Last time I heard folks saying this we got nailed to the cross by iStock and still paying them back! The last thing I need it to have them taking two payments per month from me!  :-\

Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: dingles on April 19, 2014, 16:13
Very strong PP sales here, I'm worried  ;D
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: lisafx on April 19, 2014, 16:54
I wouldn't worry.  My PP sales are on a par with Feb, which was my lowest ever, so it's more likely just a search order shuffle. 

Gostwyck hasn't weighed in again, but my sales are also about 30% down on the norm, assuming the month is concluded. 
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: gillian vann on April 19, 2014, 20:17
nothing for 1st and 2nd, or just me? 'twas a w/end, so higlyh likely.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Rage on April 20, 2014, 12:15
Well the bars have reached the end. Looks decent, not really all that much though

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Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Gino on April 21, 2014, 05:02
I'm just on istock for about a year. Is it normal that the PP sales are so extreme higher that the normal sales? I got a total of $175 with only $32 from istock sales.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on April 21, 2014, 05:17
I'm just on istock for about a year. Is it normal that the PP sales are so extreme higher that the normal sales? I got a total of $175 with only $32 from istock sales.

No, but maybe the search stongly favours newer files.  Keep your fingers crossed that it's ok.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Nikovsk on April 21, 2014, 09:27
My understanding is that yes it's normal for new contributors. While IS favors old pictures, PP seems to promote new files better.

I thought IS was useless until I got this month PP sales, made 10x more than regular IS.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Uncle Pete on April 21, 2014, 12:01
Anyone getting the Getty Images purple bars? I haven't one for the month and that's kind of odd. Last month they were the first income reported?

Well the bars have reached the end. Looks decent, not really all that much though

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Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: ShadySue on April 21, 2014, 12:07
Anyone getting the Getty Images purple bars? I haven't one for the month and that's kind of odd. Last month they were the first income reported?

Well the bars have reached the end. Looks decent, not really all that much though

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Getty purple? I didn't know indies were eligible for them (?)
There's no word of GI reporting yet.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Uncle Pete on April 21, 2014, 13:08
I'm Audio Exclusive, and happy with just one site for that.  8)

Anyone getting the Getty Images purple bars? I haven't one for the month and that's kind of odd. Last month they were the first income reported?

Well the bars have reached the end. Looks decent, not really all that much though

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Getty purple? I didn't know indies were eligible for them (?)
There's no word of GI reporting yet.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: ShadySue on April 21, 2014, 13:17
Oh sorry, I think you told me last month. :-[

I'm Audio Exclusive, and happy with just one site for that.  8)

Anyone getting the Getty Images purple bars? I haven't one for the month and that's kind of odd. Last month they were the first income reported?

Well the bars have reached the end. Looks decent, not really all that much though

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Getty purple? I didn't know indies were eligible for them (?)
There's no word of GI reporting yet.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: dingles on April 21, 2014, 13:42
No Getty sales here yet either (video exclusive)
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: Uncle Pete on April 21, 2014, 23:31
Senior moments are always understood.  ;D

Hey that was nice. Mentioned it this morning and there they are tonight. Nice purple bars.

Now I can look forward to three kinds of subs from IS, reported on two different places and who know what that will look like. I want a new color, it would be some appropriate for Easter and the April Subs?  8)

I think March is done except getting the payment.
 

Oh sorry, I think you told me last month. :-[

I'm Audio Exclusive, and happy with just one site for that.  8)

Anyone getting the Getty Images purple bars? I haven't one for the month and that's kind of odd. Last month they were the first income reported?

Well the bars have reached the end. Looks decent, not really all that much though

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
Getty purple? I didn't know indies were eligible for them (?)
There's no word of GI reporting yet.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: PhotoBomb on April 23, 2014, 20:00
This is surely a first ---
Today I got a PP sale reported that occurred in Dec 2013.
I basically closed my account in July. I left only 5 images.
In September I requested all my earnings and had a zero balance until November when a few PP sales added up to $1.20.
That is where my balance stood until yesterday when it went up by .28.
Assuming it was a March PP sale I checked - but no sales reported in March.
So I started going back through the previous months and didn't find a sale until I got to December.

Makes one really wonder about their reporting.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: lisafx on April 23, 2014, 22:45
Last time I got hit hard by the deduction of the clawback, and it left me with no Istock income for a week.  This time I am going to reserve the amount out of the PP sales. 
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: gostwyck on April 24, 2014, 05:53
I wouldn't worry.  My PP sales are on a par with Feb, which was my lowest ever, so it's more likely just a search order shuffle. 

Gostwyck hasn't weighed in again, but my sales are also about 30% down on the norm, assuming the month is concluded.

I finished the month a full 30% down from expectations, maybe a bit more. So I decided to do a few test searches to see where my images turned up in the default sort-order and ... oh dear, what a mess.

I clicked on the first image of mine that I found and was surprised to see that it was now actually credited to me as the artist (as opposed previously to just IS). Even better, the name is also clickable so that you can view the artist's portfolio. Anyway, when I clicked on my name I only had a portfolio of 1100 images __ that's about one quarter of what it should have been. Even worse, a few of the images within 'my portfolio' weren't even my images. Some other images were completely corrupted too.

I then did a search on "my name", the way we used to have to do to find our stuff on TS. This time my entire portfolio of 4600 images turned up (including the ones that weren't mine and also the corrupted stuff).

After a bit more digging around with various searches I found that when I clicked on one of my own images, and then clicked on my name to view my portfolio, about 50% of the time I got my 'reduced portfolio' and other times I got my full portfolio.

Overall the search results were a total mess anyway with completely irrelevant stuff dominating the Best Match and most of the good stuff buried well below. I think the site has just descended into deeper levels of uselessness and unreliability and that is probably the explanation for the massive swings in monthly sales. Heigh ho.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: lisafx on April 24, 2014, 17:50
I wouldn't worry.  My PP sales are on a par with Feb, which was my lowest ever, so it's more likely just a search order shuffle. 

Gostwyck hasn't weighed in again, but my sales are also about 30% down on the norm, assuming the month is concluded.

I finished the month a full 30% down from expectations, maybe a bit more. So I decided to do a few test searches to see where my images turned up in the default sort-order and ... oh dear, what a mess.

I clicked on the first image of mine that I found and was surprised to see that it was now actually credited to me as the artist (as opposed previously to just IS). Even better, the name is also clickable so that you can view the artist's portfolio. Anyway, when I clicked on my name I only had a portfolio of 1100 images __ that's about one quarter of what it should have been. Even worse, a few of the images within 'my portfolio' weren't even my images. Some other images were completely corrupted too.

I then did a search on "my name", the way we used to have to do to find our stuff on TS. This time my entire portfolio of 4600 images turned up (including the ones that weren't mine and also the corrupted stuff).

After a bit more digging around with various searches I found that when I clicked on one of my own images, and then clicked on my name to view my portfolio, about 50% of the time I got my 'reduced portfolio' and other times I got my full portfolio.

Overall the search results were a total mess anyway with completely irrelevant stuff dominating the Best Match and most of the good stuff buried well below. I think the site has just descended into deeper levels of uselessness and unreliability and that is probably the explanation for the massive swings in monthly sales. Heigh ho.

Wow.  Just Wow.

I'm grateful to at least have an explanation for the sudden extreme drop.  You obviously have a stronger stomach than I do to have delved into the situation.  Thanks for doing that! 

Sounds completely FUBAR over there.  Makes me wonder if they are now directing all their resources toward implementing the subs program at Istock with an eye toward an eventual phase-out of Thinkstock.  It certainly hasn't proven to be the Shutterstock killer they had hoped.  But then, I suspect nothing will be.
Title: Re: March Reporting of PP sales? Be the first.
Post by: gostwyck on April 25, 2014, 04:38
Wow.  Just Wow.

I'm grateful to at least have an explanation for the sudden extreme drop.  You obviously have a stronger stomach than I do to have delved into the situation.  Thanks for doing that! 

Sounds completely FUBAR over there.  Makes me wonder if they are now directing all their resources toward implementing the subs program at Istock with an eye toward an eventual phase-out of Thinkstock.  It certainly hasn't proven to be the Shutterstock killer they had hoped.  But then, I suspect nothing will be.

It certainly doesn't look like they'll be much more investment at TS any time soon with subs now available on IS. If anything TS probably became more of an 'IS Killer' than harming SS. Especially with Getty sales reps phoning up their own customers.

The trouble is, as we know from recent experience, how much confidence can we actually have in the reporting system? With some people reporting massive increases in sales and others significant losses (and other artists' images in my portfolio) how do we even know that whatever sales do happen are actually being attributed to the correct accounts?