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« on: June 19, 2019, 16:22 »
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How'd ya do?


ShadySue

« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2019, 16:41 »
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How'd ya do?
How did you do?
For me, earnings down 26% on last May, 76% down on my best May ever (2010).
First time my Alamy earnings for a month beat my iStock earnings (by c30%).

« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2019, 16:57 »
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no comment.

ShadySue

« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2019, 16:59 »
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no comment.
"No comment" is a comment.   ::)

« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2019, 17:02 »
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Month was saved by a sold video. On the other hand, I sold one file 3 times, with a total revenue of 0.13 USD...

« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2019, 17:24 »
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Toilette

« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2019, 17:53 »
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Steadily climbing.

« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2019, 18:28 »
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I have only a few remnants of my portfolio with iStock (files I can't sell anywhere else) so there's never anything exciting in the revenue reports, but I had to get a chuckle at the most recent because one of the sales was through the Canva "portal".

Lee Torrens chucked me out of Canva, but my ghost haunts them anyway :)

The sad part is that of a $5.70 sale, I receive 86 cents - lord knows what the buyer coughed up before Getty took their $5.70

« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2019, 19:15 »
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How did you do?
[/quote]

Nothing spectacular, but iStock has turned into a solid #2.

« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2019, 20:50 »
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Dropping steadily. I wonder why.

SpaceStockFootage

  • Space, Sci-Fi and Astronomy Related Stock Footage

« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2019, 21:26 »
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How did you do?

Nothing spectacular, but iStock has turned into a solid #2.
[/quote]

Better than a runny one I guess.

« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2019, 22:02 »
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Lots of 4 and 5 cent subs.

« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2019, 22:21 »
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Pretty bad here, not a good month.

« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2019, 22:24 »
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Jo Ann was correct (I think about two years ago).

When iStock changed the subscription payments to 'share of what the customer pays' this was an opportunity for iStock to give deep discounts to customers and then pass those discounts onto contributors.

She was absolutely correct.

My sales have remained about constant (or perhaps increased a little) but the money is going down, down, down.  RPD is declining as iStock gives out bigger and bigger discounts then reduces subscription payments accordingly.

« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2019, 00:47 »
+3
Worst month in many years. Unfortunately the downward trend in my case is accelerating. Fact is that I have only supplied very few images for the last years. I am concentrating more on footage now and as I don't supply to Getty Istock because of their low royalties it is not surprising that the income is going down. I am slowly compensating the income fall from them basically with 2 competing agencies.

« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2019, 00:54 »
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I am not happy, not at all.

« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2019, 02:07 »
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Down and down

and down

« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2019, 02:26 »
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My third month. And better then SS and AS

MRommens

« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2019, 02:31 »
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Everybody should stop uploading

2 or 3 cent subs are far to low!

« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2019, 03:30 »
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Realistically it is no longer financially sensible to create content as an Exclusive because of the majority of tiny value sales.

The bitter truth is this is not a viable business and anyone who invests to create content solely for this agency is subsidising the owners and buyers.

The only photographers for whom it will be worthwhile uploading will be those who create content incidentally.

The cynical moving of the royalty targets will quite quickly make the higher levels that many people have been receiving for years unattainable.

I'm assuming that the business doesn't really want many Exclusive artists, just a few to use as a marketing tool.

It's like being a lobster in a pan of slowly warming water.

« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2019, 05:55 »
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Steadily climbing.

Istock spam guy

« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2019, 07:12 »
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my best month so far!
A lot better then SS, AS and AL. IS have the same RPD then SS.
2 big getty sales : 320$ + 185$



« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2019, 07:27 »
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Another month better than SS and AS, both in sales and RPD. Also from what I see, for me, only IS gets the new uploads moving instantly. 

« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2019, 07:37 »
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my best month so far!
A lot better then SS, AS and AL. IS have the same RPD then SS.
2 big getty sales : 320$ + 185$


tour months is biased by two big sales, without them your months would be in line with the other...same happened to me, last month same big sales this months 0. unfortunately those sales are rare and not every month and they give u 15% only, if is beat ss so much i ask how much you earn in ss or as...20 dollar?
for me ss is like 6 times bigger than is and 4 times as. lucky ss is not growing a lot but is always the same good money eery month.

ShadySue

« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2019, 07:42 »
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Also from what I see, for me, only IS gets the new uploads moving instantly.
Wow, totally opposite to me! My new uploads disappear into the abyss, and in a double whammy, my bestsellers one by one suddenly* disappear from the first page to lower than page ten on their most likely search term and stop selling.
*It is always sudden, never a gradual slide.

As you suggest, we are all depending on the lottery of getting high value Getty sales.

« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2019, 07:59 »
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apart some people that have little grow, but their sales level are too low to be judged in my opinion, the truth is that if you read getty contributor forum, a lot of exclusive used to earn 6 8000 dollar months are steady declining their revenue, both thanks to a falling red and number of download...the good news is most of them soon will ditch the exclusivity status and will be free to upload millions of files on ss  as alamy and wherever they want spreading even more the every year smaller cake of royalties!! wowowowow!

Noedelhap

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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2019, 08:47 »
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Of course I signed up knowing that iStock only pays 20% (vector) and Getty sales 15%, but it still sickens me to see that something like a $30 sale nets me only $4.50.

My yearly iStock revenue becomes less each year (roughly 50% of the previous year) so pretty soon it won't make any financial sense anymore to support this lousy agency.

« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2019, 09:19 »
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Also from what I see, for me, only IS gets the new uploads moving instantly.
Wow, totally opposite to me! My new uploads disappear into the abyss, and in a double whammy, my bestsellers one by one suddenly* disappear from the first page to lower than page ten on their most likely search term and stop selling.
*It is always sudden, never a gradual slide.

As you suggest, we are all depending on the lottery of getting high value Getty sales.


Seriously, on SS and AS nothing newly uploaded seems to get traction at all, while on IS it really does sell and I can see them getting views and and lightbox added.
Also, from my personal angle, stuff that sells on IS actually the stuff I think is good - not so stockish, this stuff is dead on SS and AS. I don't know why is like that but for me it is, there's always a bunch of surprises on the 20th while SS and AS are so predictable.

« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2019, 09:36 »
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They're * up with search, it's obvious. I had this image, that was selling 30+ times per month in the last year. Than, last month 15 sales, this month 4 sales. Also, earnings are crashing rapidly, this is one of my worst omonths in 1.5 years.

« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2019, 19:07 »
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My January to April 2019 is slightly higher compared to last year of the same period. And then May came. It dropped suddenly, I only earned about 25$, down 80% compared to May 2018.

« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2019, 20:28 »
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Another month better than SS and AS, both in sales and RPD. Also from what I see, for me, only IS gets the new uploads moving instantly.
Indeed.

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« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2019, 04:15 »
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I do animated videos and vectors.

My earnings are roughly the same at Istock or more than at adobe/fotolia. (this month almost double)

But I have only 2 videos on Istock (got scared off from a ridiculously low sale) and I've got over 250 videos on adobe, and more vectors too than at istock. Shutterstock is my main earner by miles.

I am torn between my dignity and my bank balance on uploading videos to istock. Would a few low video sales include high ones or is it a slippery slope?

I know istock has a terrible reputation but then at the end of the day I need to pay bills and they earn me more.

I have to deal with clients that sometimes can be a real PITA in my day job and I rarely turn them away.

I'm still undecided!

:o





« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2019, 04:53 »
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I do animated videos and vectors.

My earnings are roughly the same at Istock or more than at adobe/fotolia. (this month almost double)

But I have only 2 videos on Istock (got scared off from a ridiculously low sale) and I've got over 250 videos on adobe, and more vectors too than at istock. Shutterstock is my main earner by miles.

I am torn between my dignity and my bank balance on uploading videos to istock. Would a few low video sales include high ones or is it a slippery slope?

I know istock has a terrible reputation but then at the end of the day I need to pay bills and they earn me more.

I have to deal with clients that sometimes can be a real PITA in my day job and I rarely turn them away.

I'm still undecided!

:o

Every little bit helps... but if buyers shop around and see your videos at a cheaper price on iStock (and for a lower commission), you might lose those sales on SS and AS... and end up with less money. That's a big 'If' and nobody will know for sure before they try and measure, but that's a risk to consider.

If you're comfortable with iStock prices and commission, go for it, but if you're not then you should focus on other agencies like Pond5,  VimeoStock, Storyblocks and Dissolve who have decent prices and commissions for videos.

Or focus on SS and AS as you're doing now and spend your extra time on creating more content :)
« Last Edit: June 21, 2019, 04:57 by Not Today »

« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2019, 07:59 »
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Realistically it is no longer financially sensible to create content as an Exclusive because of the majority of tiny value sales.

The bitter truth is this is not a viable business and anyone who invests to create content solely for this agency is subsidising the owners and buyers.

The only photographers for whom it will be worthwhile uploading will be those who create content incidentally.

The cynical moving of the royalty targets will quite quickly make the higher levels that many people have been receiving for years unattainable.

I'm assuming that the business doesn't really want many Exclusive artists, just a few to use as a marketing tool.

It's like being a lobster in a pan of slowly warming water.

If it is no longer financially sensible to create content as an Exclusive what about Independent?
Almost all the sales this month where in 0.01 - 0.05 range  >:(
Only video sales made some sense.
In my opinion video is the only content worth the effort in 2019.

« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2019, 08:21 »
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Realistically it is no longer financially sensible to create content as an Exclusive because of the majority of tiny value sales.

The bitter truth is this is not a viable business and anyone who invests to create content solely for this agency is subsidising the owners and buyers.

The only photographers for whom it will be worthwhile uploading will be those who create content incidentally.

The cynical moving of the royalty targets will quite quickly make the higher levels that many people have been receiving for years unattainable.

I'm assuming that the business doesn't really want many Exclusive artists, just a few to use as a marketing tool.

It's like being a lobster in a pan of slowly warming water.

If it is no longer financially sensible to create content as an Exclusive what about Independent?
Almost all the sales this month where in 0.01 - 0.05 range  >:(
Only video sales made some sense.
In my opinion video is the only content worth the effort in 2019.

yes...and that's why most of factory and top notch producer are shifting to video, so in probably a  year video will be heavily saturated and soon   there will be free video sites like unsplash. it's not feasible to invest money in micro stock that's the sad truth. sure there will be till a bunch of years with some potential but then ? doubt there will be a lot who could make a living out of this, and i mean  good living...sure if you live in some poor island of thailand maybe 1000 dollar make you a living.

« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2019, 10:00 »
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my best month so far!
A lot better then SS, AS and AL. IS have the same RPD then SS.
2 big getty sales : 320$ + 185$


tour months is biased by two big sales, without them your months would be in line with the other...same happened to me, last month same big sales this months 0. unfortunately those sales are rare and not every month and they give u 15% only, if is beat ss so much i ask how much you earn in ss or as...20 dollar?
for me ss is like 6 times bigger than is and 4 times as. lucky ss is not growing a lot but is always the same good money eery month.

I should have said that this is my best month so far excluding the two big sales ... Best month in terms of numbers and dollars. Almost double in dollars compared to SS. 

« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2019, 12:05 »
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May is average for me but the three previous months were disasters. It hurt to see a good number of downloads but all of them were of terrible value.

I won't put my hope on that sporadic high value sales among sea of $0.03-0.06 sales. I believe they're cannibalizing sales from SS and AS so I've stopped uploading to iS.

What would happen if enough contributors stopped uploading to iS? Those who are still there would have better sales and report about it. Then those who have stopped would change their minds and resume uploading. And then...  ::)
« Last Edit: June 26, 2019, 19:36 by flywing »

« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2019, 09:54 »
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Realistically it is no longer financially sensible to create content as an Exclusive because of the majority of tiny value sales.

The bitter truth is this is not a viable business and anyone who invests to create content solely for this agency is subsidising the owners and buyers.

The only photographers for whom it will be worthwhile uploading will be those who create content incidentally.

The cynical moving of the royalty targets will quite quickly make the higher levels that many people have been receiving for years unattainable.

I'm assuming that the business doesn't really want many Exclusive artists, just a few to use as a marketing tool.

It's like being a lobster in a pan of slowly warming water.

If it is no longer financially sensible to create content as an Exclusive what about Independent?
Almost all the sales this month where in 0.01 - 0.05 range  >:(
Only video sales made some sense.
In my opinion video is the only content worth the effort in 2019.

yes...and that's why most of factory and top notch producer are shifting to video, so in probably a  year video will be heavily saturated and soon   there will be free video sites like unsplash. it's not feasible to invest money in micro stock that's the sad truth. sure there will be till a bunch of years with some potential but then ? doubt there will be a lot who could make a living out of this, and i mean  good living...sure if you live in some poor island of thailand maybe 1000 dollar make you a living.

Not sure about most factory shifting to video, but totally agree with you that soon video will be heavily saturated.
As of 2019 video still worth the effort IMHO.

Uncle Pete

  • Great Place by a Great Lake - My Home Port
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2019, 10:12 »
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How'd ya do?

RPD .33 that says it all for me.  :(

May is average for me but the three previous months were disasters. It hurt to see a good number of downloads but all of them were of terrible value.

I won't put my hope on that sporadic high value sales among sea of $0.3-0.6 sales. I believe they're cannibalizing sales from SS and AS so I've stopped uploading to iS.

What would happen if enough contributors stopped uploading to iS? Those who are still there would have better sales and report about it. Then those who have stopped would change their minds and resume uploading. And then...  ::)

I have stopped uploading I don't think they will care or notice.  ;)

PZF

« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2019, 11:09 »
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Latest figures.....grim...... :(

« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2019, 12:14 »
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I do animated videos and vectors.

My earnings are roughly the same at Istock or more than at adobe/fotolia. (this month almost double)

But I have only 2 videos on Istock (got scared off from a ridiculously low sale) and I've got over 250 videos on adobe, and more vectors too than at istock. Shutterstock is my main earner by miles.

I am torn between my dignity and my bank balance on uploading videos to istock. Would a few low video sales include high ones or is it a slippery slope?

I know istock has a terrible reputation but then at the end of the day I need to pay bills and they earn me more.

I have to deal with clients that sometimes can be a real PITA in my day job and I rarely turn them away.

I'm still undecided!

:o

Every little bit helps... but if buyers shop around and see your videos at a cheaper price on iStock (and for a lower commission), you might lose those sales on SS and AS... and end up with less money. That's a big 'If' and nobody will know for sure before they try and measure, but that's a risk to consider.

If you're comfortable with iStock prices and commission, go for it, but if you're not then you should focus on other agencies like Pond5,  VimeoStock, Storyblocks and Dissolve who have decent prices and commissions for videos.

Or focus on SS and AS as you're doing now and spend your extra time on creating more content :)
Thanks! I've found that sales on storyblocks are as rare as chickens teeth and pond5 not massive either. Might try vimeo and dissolve then.
Thanks for your advice, much appreciated:)


 

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