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« on: September 07, 2009, 19:35 »
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How it is possible to submit something like this on IS or on the other sites?
Are they says in agreement that "you must be author of youre own work???"
Is there in uploading process one of four check mark something about that if something comes in you frame shoot which you didn create eg. tatoo, logo, or pic on the car or other masterworks???
After few months I see something about that on they forum but I lost the thread of too many closed threads with no complete answer about that.
Last I was read about is that if Postage stamp has stamp or watermark on it it is OK???
Is this mean that I can get any picture of any celebrity (which I not shoot or create) and make fake Postage stamp and make fake stamp on it and that is OK for IS???
Next thing on IS forum about it is that postmarks must be older than 70 years (it maybe means that copyright is expired) but I find lots of postmarks younger than this?
Technicall issue???
Postage stamps are scanned at 400 or 600% even more percent and if they are printed in flat offset technique with raster dot matrix all they have Moire on self exclude stamps from deep relief cooper press???


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Is this mean that only you can need is clueless brain and while you doing you knotted lace or pullover while rocking in chair with cat on knees in deep winter times and my influenzas drop droping from time to time from you nose and from time to time press scan button on scanner and that is enough for satisfy IS "standards"?????
I think it is very sick and discousting (even if you have flue or IQ under 70)?????????
« Last Edit: September 07, 2009, 19:47 by Suljo »


« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2009, 19:41 »
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That's a good question. Apparently many people are making good money out of the stamps.

 ;D

RacePhoto

« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2009, 22:35 »
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DT, BS, FT, Panther do not accept postage stamps any longer. "These images do not sell well." IS and SS still did in February. If you want to legally upload a stamp it needs to be canceled/used with markings, or obscured or shot at an angle so it's not a flat image. Pile of stamps, page of stamps tucked into the holders, so only half a stamp shows, that kind of layout.

Anything US after 1978 is copyrighted, everything before is PD. However every country has different laws. One country you can't use stamps, in any way, canceled or not, while another all stamps are PD.

To add to the confusion and complication, one site refuses images with famous people for image of a person without a model release. (Beethoven for example, honest!) Maybe the artist owns the rights, but it's from one of the countries where everything is PD.

On  a few sites, there are uncanceled USA stamps which are not only protected for the person but the stamp was issued after 1978.
(First day of issue: January 8, 1993)

All U.S. postage stamps issued under the former United States Post Office Department and other postage items that were released before 1978 are not subject to copyright, but stamp designs since 1978 are copyrighted.

What you see are most likely older uploads and the illegal ones are images that slipped through. I never bothered to report anything, not my business, but some of the best selling stamp images on most of the sites are infringing on copyrights and personal image rights.

It's the usual Micro confusion and BS. One reviewer will refuse everything, another won't know and will accept images that are a liability. Then when you get them accepted and upload more, you will get the "too many like this" rejection. Good luck!
« Last Edit: September 07, 2009, 23:12 by RacePhoto »

« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2009, 23:25 »
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Its not my intention to burn out lamp from my scanner for that kind of cheap crap of catching "images" but from time to time when I visit iStock site and see something in Newest uploads now I am overreacting with this thread, and I find few dudes which are under IS exclusive protection and they dont have anything in they ports only Fcking scans of PostStamps???
Yes you can say this "kind of images" are not sell well but some stamps are sold more than 1000 times. This guys are from old days of IS (designers little secret) and no have more than 100 or 200 "images" in port but they are DIAMOND?!?
DIAMOND on IS with scanned other copyright work with faked watermark stamp???

« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2009, 04:22 »
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-You can always sell stamps as editorial, cancellation marks or not. That Elvis stamp for example is sold as editorial. Remember: stamps are objects that just "happen" to have an image on them, they are not artwork.

-Some stamps do sell, but only if the subject is interesting in some way. I have only a few stamps for sale, but they must have made me something like 200 bucks so it was worth the scan time.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2009, 04:25 by Perry »

RacePhoto

« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2009, 12:07 »
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-You can always sell stamps as editorial, cancellation marks or not. That Elvis stamp for example is sold as editorial. Remember: stamps are objects that just "happen" to have an image on them, they are not artwork.

-Some stamps do sell, but only if the subject is interesting in some way. I have only a few stamps for sale, but they must have made me something like 200 bucks so it was worth the scan time.

Very true. Good subjects and doing it right, will make some returns. There are also many more stamps with no sales sitting on all the sites. It's the same as pointing out (name here) who makes (dollars here) on microstock, when roughly 90% of the people who start, never make a payout, and when 2% are making a good living. Pointing to the exceptions does nothing to support the case that "many people are making good money out of the stamps". The fact is, very few people are making anything on their stamp photos or scans, the agencies are overloaded with them, and true here and there a stamp has good sales, making some money. But most of them do nothing!

I did a test last year when someone said "stamps make money" and did quite a collection of topical postage stamps. Not just dead Presidents and famous people that are common. In the end, most sites stopped taking them, even the ones that started with marking them as reviewers choices or selected. If you worry about your rejection rate and upload percentages, don't try to send in many stamps. They get rejected without any regard to content, quality or potential sales. They don't get reviewed, they just get rejected. (so much for better quality or something that's different?) FT, DT and BS have gone to, if it's a stamp, it's rejected. "Too many like this".

Upload ten new diverse images to all your sites a week, and you'll make good money! Everyone is looking for the magic shortcut to collecting from Micro. There is none. Lisa is a perfect example of a long time spent on dedicated hard work, paying off in the end. The tortoise will win this race!  ;D


 

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