Yep. Seems like PCC is trying to justify whatever Istock are paying her by intervening on every thread possible and trying to invent new 'rules' on a daily basis.

Seems a bit heavy handed to me too.

I'm entirely on board with keeping sales discussions coralled - they do spiral out of control if many threads are allowed - but I don't see how anyone is harmed by allowing a February 2011 sales thread to discuss comparisons as well as sales that occurred Feb 1 - 28. And if they allow comparisons to Feb 2010 (or 2009 or whatever) why is discussion of a trend that did/didn't continue into the first week of March a problem?

If someone had been rude, discussing a competitor, or something of that sort, shut that particular post down or delete it. AFAIK nothing of the sort happened.

I don't like being treated like a naughty child by the organization that derives 100% of its revenue from selling our work. Seems there's a "drunk with newfound power" atmosphere following their success in sticking it to contributors with the September 2010 cash grab.

Once again, I'm happy to have a place here to continue discussions truncated over there.

Once again, I'm happy to have a place here to continue discussions truncated over there.

You said it, sister.

I don't miss trying to have a discussion over there, at all. It's pretty well pointless, if you ask me.

Quote from: jsnover on March 09, 2011, 13:08

Once again, I'm happy to have a place here to continue discussions truncated over there.

I don't miss trying to have a discussion over there, at all. It's pretty well pointless, if you ask me.

I haven't quite given up hope that things might improve, but you probably guessed that as I still have the crown And in particular, there's only a small percentage of exclusives who hang out over here, so if I want to make a point and try to rouse other exclusives to take notice of something, there's still the place to try and do that.

I don't socialize there at all; it's strictly about trying to hold IS's toes to the fire about doing what they're supposed to and raising contributor-related issues. If I want to get an admin's attention, again, IS's forums is where I have to do that. While they're getting exceedingly good at ignoring us, we have managed to keep harping on things like missing subscription royalties and get our money (eventually).

Do you notice how sparse the Woo Yay thread in the off-topic forum is (and we're near the end of Winter; in the past it'd have been huge by now)? Winter 2006/7 257 posts; Winter 2010/11 30 posts... Guess no one feels much like celebrating

  I really like it when someone posts a comment about the istock forums here. I can see the most interesting stuff without wading through the regular garbage. To that point- I never knew there was a woo-yay thread! That is so tacky! So very istock! Woo-yay on jsnover!

Quote from: Risamay on March 09, 2011, 13:35

Quote from: jsnover on March 09, 2011, 13:08

Once again, I'm happy to have a place here to continue discussions truncated over there.

I don't miss trying to have a discussion over there, at all. It's pretty well pointless, if you ask me.

I haven't quite given up hope that things might improve, but you probably guessed that as I still have the crown And in particular, there's only a small percentage of exclusives who hang out over here, so if I want to make a point and try to rouse other exclusives to take notice of something, there's still the place to try and do that.

I don't socialize there at all; it's strictly about trying to hold IS's toes to the fire about doing what they're supposed to and raising contributor-related issues. If I want to get an admin's attention, again, IS's forums is where I have to do that. While they're getting exceedingly good at ignoring us, we have managed to keep harping on things like missing subscription royalties and get our money (eventually).

Do you notice how sparse the Woo Yay thread in the off-topic forum is (and we're near the end of Winter; in the past it'd have been huge by now)? Winter 2006/7 257 posts; Winter 2010/11 30 posts... Guess no one feels much like celebrating

You are right. For the purposes you outline, IS is still the place to [attempt to, anyway] raise those conversations, points, issues. And if you make any headway, good on you. Seriously! That is something to WooYay, when it happens.

The death of the social aspect is too bad. I was looking forward to attending a 'lypse one day and meeting more people, but I just don't see that desire returning before such events are ancient history. It's just so [cl]ickish now. The folks I want to meet I'll do so one-on-one, but not in a group with too many other characters I'd likely get in a fight with (most of whom have badges).

No, I hadn't noticed that about the WooYay thread ... as I never look anymore! When I do pop over, I peek in the Main Discussion Forum and the Help Forum, and that's it. I *never* go to the Off-Topic area anymore. What's the point? On the rare occasion when I have peeked in, it couldn't be more boring. What did I say to Lobo it was turning into, per all the rules? The most boring corner of the Internet? Yeah. I think that's what I said. And that it is.

Right on, Sean!

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=311882&page=1

Or, +1 Sean.

-1 Dawn and Kelvin.

I still can't get over how quickly and completely those two turned!

So disappointing.

Right on, Sean!

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=311882&page=1

Or, +1 Sean.

-1 Dawn and Kelvin.

I still can't get over how quickly and completely those two turned!

So disappointing.

yes, and Sean's thread was also locked.  sheesh.

There was a British TV series called Manor House which was a high-end reality show - people from today taken back to the ways of living of another era. The video diaries some of the participants kept noted how easily they fell into the roles assigned to them - the "upstairs" folks lording it over those playing servants even though that wasn't part of their real lives.

Where you stand depends on where you sit (I think a Don K. Price aphorism, but fits here).

I've seen that show! And you are so right. Also comes to mind that little experiment at Stanford that had to be shut down, because folks got a tad too carried away with their roles ...

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=stanford+prison+experiment

Good for Sean for bringing that up.  One of the few people who is high enough up the food chain to be able to post without (too much) fear or reprisal.  

Hardly see hide nor hair of the other top exclusives.  I am sure they must have opinions about what's going on, but you wouldn't know it by the Istock forums.  Or these either, for that matter.

Shame they shut the thread down so quickly, but not at all surprising...

I like how he brought up the cliques in the Off-Topic forum...one of who PCC is a member. Interesting that that chatter gets to go on there. More examples of iStock favoritism...

  There are cliques in the off-topic forum? Another thing i didn't know that I learned in this thread! This is kind of like watching "Jersey Shore". It's bad, but i can't help but look. Now I'm going over to istock and look for cliques...

edit-  Report back from the off-topic group:  How creepy.

LOL, I know, right?!?!? It's so * perky up in there

Good for Sean for bringing that up.  One of the few people who is high enough up the food chain to be able to post without (too much) fear or reprisal.  

Hardly see hide nor hair of the other top exclusives.  I am sure they must have opinions about what's going on, but you wouldn't know it by the Istock forums.  Or these either, for that matter.

I think there are many of them. They do express their thoughts but discreetly, like Sylvanworks. Or like this person (ex inspector) in his istock's blog page:
"I just don't agree with the way iStock is heading and the decisions being made so I couldn't stay officially affiliated with the company."
http://www.istockphoto.com/user_view.php?userID=688535?action=view&location=Profile&userID=688535&postID=96305
Why do you think the review time is so long?