Author Topic: Model Release (Read 7310 times)

Fran · « **on:** February 24, 2012, 18:13 »

ISP rejects my model releases created with EasyModelRelease on the iPad, which are perfectly fine and perfectly legal. Reason: "you MUST compile a real one bla bla yadda yadda".

Welcome to the digital age, the model release I have is as real as one compiled on paper, just more convenient, perfectly legal, perfectly acceptable, more ecological and so on so forth. Now, is there a good reason why they behave this way? Beside trying to make my life more difficult on purpose? This, coupled with the again completely unlawful killing of my best seller of a castle taken on public grounds, is pissing . out of me, who I usually am pretty calm and cuddly

Now, since I'm dealing with people who are unreasonable, I will print the model release, scan it, and send the scanned version. I have the legal release anyway just in case. I will not give up the ease and coolness of signing model releases on the iPad for a bunch of <insert your favorite word here>.

Thanks for listening to my rant.

Fran · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2012, 18:14 »

Unless you swear to me that what I'm doing is wrong. Trust you more than ISP

Phew, feeling way better now.

Larry · « **Reply #2 on:** February 24, 2012, 18:47 »

You can download the required release .pdf, fill it out with photoshop, save it, convert it to jpg, all paper free. You would have to fudge the signatures though, too bad there is not a way to attach an electronic release. For legal reasons I like to have a genuine piece of paper with authentic signatures. Hard to dispute the signature. Old fashioned I guess, I still submit paper tax returns too.

Fran · « **Reply #3 on:** February 24, 2012, 19:02 »

That's the point, Larry, I want to use the model release app I have cause it's just perfect and very handy. No fudging in PS for me. I don't want to waste time with this stuff.

As I would like to not waste time with compiling a tax form, I've never had to do it when I was living in Europe

But in this case I have to.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #4 on:** February 24, 2012, 21:02 »

IS doesn't accept digital releases. Trying to get around that by printing it and scanning it, will likely get you in trouble sooner or later.

That's just how it is.

Suljo · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2012, 19:12 »

Whata naive designer make fields in Gereedy (de)generic MR about 4-5mm high???
God if you exsist, punish him that he must fill that lobotomy low and short fields whole his life through the magnifier glass...

You have in attachment my revised MR with larger spaces in fields. You just need to edit at the end of second paragraph where is: (.....address of the Model (or Parent*) given opposite: Croatia.)
Reedit Croatia with you country.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2012, 19:14 »

LMFAO

I write that like keywords eheh

ShadySue · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2012, 19:31 »

Quote from: Fran on February 24, 2012, 18:13

ISP rejects my model releases created with EasyModelRelease on the iPad, which are perfectly fine and perfectly legal. Reason: "you MUST compile a real one bla bla yadda yadda".

Welcome to the digital age, the model release I have is as real as one compiled on paper, just more convenient, perfectly legal, perfectly acceptable, more ecological and so on so forth. Now, is there a good reason why they behave this way?

I have not idea about the app you're talking about, but if the signature looks as bad on that as it does on e.g. that thing delivery men carry about with them, or me trying to write a signature on my Wacom, I'm surprised anyone accepts it.

Suljo · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2012, 19:39 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on February 25, 2012, 19:14

LMFAO

I write that like keywords eheh

You mean like Kunta Kinte eanglish

Chicken I take photos camera business

In next shoot I will try with: naive studio shoot for IS

Or something in chinese, arabic or other exotic language...

Looks to me that you can write anything in that naive field, but if it is empty they will reject you image.

Ed · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2012, 19:46 »

Fran, for what it's worth, I use Easy Release as well....and the positions that the micros take on it is laughable - iStock especially. Getty (who owns iStock) accepts the release. Alamy, as well as a couple of other traditional agencies accept it is as well. I don't get it either.

http://www.applicationgap.com/apps/easyrelease/

It's even listed on their home page LOL

luissantos84 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2012, 19:54 »

Quote from: Suljo on February 25, 2012, 19:39

Looks to me that you can write anything in that naive field, but if it is empty they reject you image.

ahahahahahahaah you are a blast! its so true LOL

Fran · « **Reply #11 on:** February 26, 2012, 12:14 »

Quote from: ShadySue on February 25, 2012, 19:31

I have not idea about the app you're talking about, but if the signature looks as bad on that as it does on e.g. that thing delivery men carry about with them, or me trying to write a signature on my Wacom, I'm surprised anyone accepts it.

Signature looks very good, and it's accepted literally anywhere except IS.

Fran · « **Reply #12 on:** February 26, 2012, 12:17 »

Quote from: Ed on February 25, 2012, 19:46

Fran, for what it's worth, I use Easy Release as well....and the positions that the micros take on it is laughable - iStock especially. Getty (who owns iStock) accepts the release. Alamy, as well as a couple of other traditional agencies accept it is as well. I don't get it either.

http://www.applicationgap.com/apps/easyrelease/

It's even listed on their home page LOL

Same one I use. I didn't know even Getty accepts it. Honestly, I don't like how IS does business, it's one of the worst companies I have ever dealt with in more than ten years of doing business in various fields. Making life purposely harder for your suppliers is never a good idea.

I'll go for the print/scan and if they catch me, I won't shed a tear, I know I'm on the right side.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #13 on:** February 26, 2012, 14:52 »

Quote from: Fran on February 26, 2012, 12:17

I'll go for the print/scan and if they catch me, I won't shed a tear, I know I'm on the right side.

Well, you're not. The policy is that they don't accept it, and you're trying to circumvent that.

Ed · « **Reply #14 on:** February 26, 2012, 15:24 »

Dreamstime doesn't accept the release either. I haven't tried at other agencies - once I found out the agencies didn't accept the images for that, they suddenly became RM images for the traditional agencies

Fran · « **Reply #15 on:** February 27, 2012, 21:00 »

Quote from: sjlocke on February 26, 2012, 14:52

Well, you're not. The policy is that they don't accept it, and you're trying to circumvent that.

You are arguing semantics here. Which is fine by me if you enjoy doing it.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #16 on:** February 27, 2012, 21:14 »

Uh, no, I'm not.

"I know I'm on the right side." As if there is some moral obligation for an agency to accept a digital release. There isn't, so there isn't a "right" side. All there is is the rules per Agency, which you are trying to circumvent.

Fran · « **Reply #17 on:** February 27, 2012, 21:20 »

Quote from: sjlocke on February 27, 2012, 21:14

Uh, no, I'm not.

"I know I'm on the right side." As if there is some moral obligation for an agency to accept a digital release. There isn't, so there isn't a "right" side. All there is is the rules per Agency, which you are trying to circumvent.

That's exactly arguing semantics, cause I know you know what I mean. Honestly, I don't have the time, neither the will to argue semantics with you, also cause I respect you.
I prefer to invest my very very little spare time in trying to be somehow decent at photography (and it's a loooooong way), instead of wasting it on compiling and managing "real" model releases for a company with little respect for their business partners and arguably very poor business sense. You call it circumventing? Fine by me. I know I'm on the right side.

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