Author Topic: How biloba is not fully relevant to Ginkgo biloba tree? (Read 6018 times)

melastmohican · « **on:** May 04, 2009, 12:51 »

We can argue about other keywords. I think this plant is used in alternative medicine that's why I added these keywords.

{[ Choice, biloba, Growth, Recovery, Healthcare And Medicine, Healthcare And Medicine, Healthcare And Medicine, Herbal Medicine (Alternative Medicine), Herbal Medicine (Alternative Medicine), Homeopathic Medicine, Healthcare And Medicine, Healthcare And Medicine, Decoration, Medicine]}

goldenangel · « **Reply #1 on:** May 04, 2009, 14:48 »

Did they reject the file due to this keyword? You can always remove it and then add it after the file was approved. However, it seems that biloba is not part of the IS search system. If you type "biloba" in search it seems to give ALL the images in search

So, having it in your keywords is probably not gonna help anyway. I always wondered if it is possible to suggest a new keyword to them. Anybody know?

melastmohican · « **Reply #2 on:** May 04, 2009, 14:59 »

Many things are not a part of their system. I would like to have keywords corresponding to object I am describing. I also got rejection when I put keywords "five" and "wounds" for "Five Wounds Church"

Dreamframer · « **Reply #3 on:** May 04, 2009, 15:24 »

I couldn't add keyword "landed" for parachute that just landed. There are many words that aren't in their disambiguation system.

goldenangel · « **Reply #4 on:** May 04, 2009, 15:43 »

I could not find a way to suggest adding a new keyword into their system. Anyone know how to do this?

madelaide · « **Reply #5 on:** May 04, 2009, 17:43 »

"Biloba" alone is not in the CV, is it? I only see it used as "gingko biloba" and so I suppose this is what they have in the CV. "Herbal medicine", "medicine" and "alternative medicine" look ok to me, but some people may say there is nothing medical about the image itself (no pills, no crushed herbs beside a cup of tea - you get the idea). "Growth", "choice", "recovery" and "decoration" don't make much sense to me.

alias · « **Reply #6 on:** May 04, 2009, 18:02 »

It is not a useful stock photo of [Recovery, Healthcare And Medicine, Healthcare And Medicine, Healthcare And Medicine, Herbal Medicine (Alternative Medicine), Herbal Medicine (Alternative Medicine), Homeopathic Medicine, Healthcare And Medicine, Healthcare And Medicine, Decoration, Medicine].

Because it does not instantly speak of those subjects. It does not stand as a visual metaphor for the meanings which you are trying to attach.

A photograph a plant which is perhaps used in medicine is not a picture of medicine. No more than a crystal is a picture of spirituality. You are trying to force a meaning where one does not exist.

melastmohican · « **Reply #7 on:** May 04, 2009, 18:24 »

http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-2268500-ginkgo.php
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-1334578-ginko-health.php
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-1334578-ginko-health.php

goldenangel · « **Reply #8 on:** May 04, 2009, 18:34 »

Hm, the last file is old, it seems like its keywords are not according to their system at all. I wonder how many of these files are there on IS? The file has many downloads so someone is able to find them anyway...

madelaide · « **Reply #9 on:** May 04, 2009, 20:42 »

I am against the "strictly what is on the photo" concept. I see buyers searches in DT and SP, and I have sold image with very loose concepts, like "love" (it was an illustration with hearts).

The last image was not disambiguated. CV keywords appear with the first letter in caps.

Dreamframer · « **Reply #10 on:** May 05, 2009, 05:30 »

Quote from: alias on May 04, 2009, 18:02

It is not a useful stock photo of [Recovery, Healthcare And Medicine, Healthcare And Medicine, Healthcare And Medicine, Herbal Medicine (Alternative Medicine), Herbal Medicine (Alternative Medicine), Homeopathic Medicine, Healthcare And Medicine, Healthcare And Medicine, Decoration, Medicine].

Because it does not instantly speak of those subjects. It does not stand as a visual metaphor for the meanings which you are trying to attach.

A photograph a plant which is perhaps used in medicine is not a picture of medicine. No more than a crystal is a picture of spirituality. You are trying to force a meaning where one does not exist.

This time I cannot agree completely with you alias, but I will agree with madelaide. Buyers very often use conceptual terms to find images. I have image with Moon over water downloaded at DT with word "fantasy". Ginkgo is very well known herbal medicine. You don't even need to extract active substance from it. It's so strong it can be used in fresh state. So, leaves of ginkgo are medicine. It's like putting a word "food" to a tomato image. Tomato is food, and ginkgo is medicine.
I don't understand why so many people think that reviewers are gods and they have to be flawless. How many reviewers are so widely educated? We cannot expect of them to know everything. They are good in reviewing images, but they are human and they don't know everything. It's normal.

There ARE few keywords that are not relevant to this subject. Those words are: Homeopathic Medicine, and Decoration. Homeopathic medicine is something conceptually very different that medicine we know, and ginkgo can be used for decoration, but it's not very well known as decorative plant.

gaja · « **Reply #11 on:** May 05, 2009, 12:07 »

Gingko survived because it was a medicine plant, it has been cultivated for more than a thousand years, and does not exist as a truely wild plant. It was known only from fossils until it was discovered in a chinese monestary. The monks used the seeds so they would be able to pray for hours without having to take a bathroom break.

So if any plant should have the label "Herbal medicine", it's this one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginkgo_biloba

stockastic · « **Reply #12 on:** May 05, 2009, 15:11 »

I hope I'm not hijacking this thread, but I got a keyword rejection from IS today that just blew my mind.

The photo was of a bunch of old buttons from the 50s and 60s, various styles. My mother had them in a jar and they made a nice image.

IS said these keywords were not related to the subject: "sewing", "tailor", "old-fashioned (styles)", "clothing."

I no longer even bother to appeal to "scout" or any of that cr@p. I submit a few to IS every now and then, only images that have already been accepted by SS, PT, DT and 123RF. IS will reject 20-50% of them for various crazy reasons. I delete the emails and forget about it.

To be honest, I hope they fold up. They're the best-known site, but they reject my best photos, so they're just a barrier between me and people who I think would buy some of my photos, if they ever saw them.

madelaide · « **Reply #13 on:** May 05, 2009, 16:43 »

I sold an image in DT for "down jones index". There are very few of them, and like mine I believe none really has Down Jones Index in them (mine are of generic stock market charts). Some would consider that a spam, but it is just an stretched concept (and I believe only editorial images could really show DJI written somewhere).

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