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B8

« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2013, 01:37 »
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Have buyers been notified in any way so they at least have a clue what is going on when they perhaps pull up a light boxed image and find all the prices have changed?


Ron

« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2013, 03:30 »
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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2013, 03:38 »
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I have never had anything in the Value Bin, my slider only has 4 choices. What are the prices for small size in Value Bin and S?
It goes from 1$ small to 4$ large.  My ones in the bin are all really old images so don't come any higher than large

« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2013, 03:39 »
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Hmmm.... All my P+ appear to have been demoted to main. I don't think that will benefit me or iStock. Hopefully they have simply not gone through everything yet.
Same here so I'm hoping that it isn't finished yet.

ShadySue

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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2013, 04:43 »
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Several of my older files with historic high sales (but not nowadays) have  been 'promoted' to S+, which will kill them dead. Given a choice, I'd have moved some of these down to the main collection, and kept the rest in S.
Other files which are of very unusual subjects have gone down one or even two collections. They are never going to sell a lot, but I feel should have a premium because of their rarity value.
Not much evidence of vsual editor involvement.

« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2013, 06:15 »
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Not much evidence of vsual editor involvement.

Did anyone think they were going to go through 20 million files individually?   They can hardly keep up with the queue.

« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2013, 06:16 »
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Hmmm.... All my P+ appear to have been demoted to main. I don't think that will benefit me or iStock. Hopefully they have simply not gone through everything yet.
Same here so I'm hoping that it isn't finished yet.

Same here... I bet you dollars to donuts that it's going to stay that way until hell freezes over they ironed out all the other bugs  :P

« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2013, 07:17 »
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Good for buyers, bad for artists.

there's no way out when as an agency your main issue is oversupply.

the only fix is to put more weight on new images and "sandbox" the old ones.

as for the "who needs 1 million pics of the Tour Eiffel ?" question, well that's a problem that so far nobody managed to solve in my opinion.

micros will be more and more inundated by business concepts and shaking hands for a long time, up to the buyer to waste time picking up the "perfect image", they can't have their cake and eat it too !




« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2013, 07:50 »
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A lot of my photo+ are now DEACTIVATED(photo+) anyone know if that means that they are back in the main collection?

sc

« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2013, 08:28 »
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A lot of my photo+ are now DEACTIVATED(photo+) anyone know if that means that they are back in the main collection?

It looks like the files marked DEACTIVATED(photo+) are still priced higher than those marked MAIN
My MAIN files are at 1- 4 - 7 - 10 credits 
DEACTIVATED(photo+) are 3 - 5 - 10 - 12 credits

« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2013, 08:51 »
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A lot of my photo+ are now DEACTIVATED(photo+) anyone know if that means that they are back in the main collection?

It looks like the files marked DEACTIVATED(photo+) are still priced higher than those marked MAIN
My MAIN files are at 1- 4 - 7 - 10 credits 
DEACTIVATED(photo+) are 3 - 5 - 10 - 12 credits

All my DEACTIVATED(photo+) images turned into "main" overnight.

« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2013, 08:53 »
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Not much evidence of vsual editor involvement.

Did anyone think they were going to go through 20 million files individually?   They can hardly keep up with the queue.

You are right, it is just a formula like best match.  Based on age/sales/views/etc to where your file goes.   I guess the inspectors will put new files into the categories??

« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2013, 09:02 »
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Not much evidence of vsual editor involvement.

Did anyone think they were going to go through 20 million files individually?   They can hardly keep up with the queue.

You are right, it is just a formula like best match.  Based on age/sales/views/etc to where your file goes.   

If that's right then all specialist niche material is doomed to have the lowest price.

« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2013, 09:07 »
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Ah, my stuff seems to have sorted itself as expected beforehand.

I obviously jumped the gun on using the price filter to look at collections.

« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2013, 09:40 »
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I appear to have but one solitary file marked as Deactivated and still having a premium price! All my other stuff has been relegated to Main.

When IS introduced P+ (2 years ago?) the price increase boosted my monthly earnings by about 30%. I assume this will now have the reverse effect. 

I can't see this new collection thing working to the extent of having the buyers flooding back to IS and increasing our volume of sales. At best it may just stem the tide of buyers who have been leaving.

KB

« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2013, 09:54 »
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Personally for me, I predict this is a disaster. All my best sellers were promoted to S+, but for most of them there's nothing special to them. They were lucky to have caught on and be given a good place in the best match, but at S+ pricing buyers aren't stupid. They'll look for something in the S or Main collections and skip mine.

Way to go! Kill off all my best selling files in one fell swoop.  >:(

« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2013, 10:05 »
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Several of my older files with historic high sales (but not nowadays) have  been 'promoted' to S+, which will kill them dead. Given a choice, I'd have moved some of these down to the main collection, and kept the rest in S.
Other files which are of very unusual subjects have gone down one or even two collections. They are never going to sell a lot, but I feel should have a premium because of their rarity value.
Not much evidence of vsual editor involvement.

This was what made Photo+ useful, in my opinion.  Self selection by the Artist crowdsources the work effort by the very people most likely to know and care which images are promoted!

« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2013, 10:10 »
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This was what made Photo+ useful, in my opinion.  Self selection by the Artist crowdsources the work effort by the very people most likely to know and care which images are promoted!

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Mine are now all Main.  The P+ pricing never seemed to hurt sales but made a big difference for $$$ for me.  Without it iS will probably drop quite a bit more for non-exclusives.  Too bad.

« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2013, 10:28 »
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This was what made Photo+ useful, in my opinion.  Self selection by the Artist crowdsources the work effort by the very people most likely to know and care which images are promoted!

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Mine are now all Main.  The P+ pricing never seemed to hurt sales but made a big difference for $$$ for me.  Without it iS will probably drop quite a bit more for non-exclusives.  Too bad.

Mine too have all been demoted from P+ to Main - nothing in a higher collection, even my one image with a flame and another just a few sales short of it's flame.  Actually just sold that one - Yippeee - $0.16 for that X-small sale.  Last 6 X-small sales on that one ranged from .52 to .75  Still peanuts but at least there were two or three peanuts in the shell.  Another negative factor for me will be the loss of the extra RC's I got from the P+ sales.  They were what helped me hit the next level above base.   I pretty much quit uploading after the debacle with Google Drive and more than half my income at IS comes from the partner program now.  Thinking this may be the deciding factor in pulling the plug on them.

sc

« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2013, 10:30 »
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A lot of my photo+ are now DEACTIVATED(photo+) anyone know if that means that they are back in the main collection?

It looks like the files marked DEACTIVATED(photo+) are still priced higher than those marked MAIN
My MAIN files are at 1- 4 - 7 - 10 credits 
DEACTIVATED(photo+) are 3 - 5 - 10 - 12 credits

All my DEACTIVATED(photo+) images turned into "main" overnight.

I had 6 DEACTIVATED(photo+)'s this morning and it's now down to 4.


« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2013, 10:36 »
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Ok guys. Here Lobo says here-
"For the time being almost all non exclusive files have been placed in Main, including all files that were in Plus. The initial approach is focusing on better placement of our exclusive material."
So we non ex still can expect that our P+ may eventually go to Signature collection

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2013, 10:42 »
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This was what made Photo+ useful, in my opinion.  Self selection by the Artist crowdsources the work effort by the very people most likely to know and care which images are promoted!

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Mine are now all Main.  The P+ pricing never seemed to hurt sales but made a big difference for $$$ for me.  Without it iS will probably drop quite a bit more for non-exclusives.  Too bad.
Maybe not; there are quite a few exclusives here and there not happy about relatively 'ordinary' photos being promoted to S+, which we fear will kill them. Indie files will compete well, so it might be lower prices but more sales.

However, I see gemmy13's post and it's just that the indie files have to wait for the bump up.

« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2013, 11:59 »
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I appear to have but one solitary file marked as Deactivated and still having a premium price! All my other stuff has been relegated to Main.


Well that's one more that me ;)

« Reply #48 on: June 14, 2013, 12:02 »
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All bloody beautiful. What a great way to disguise yet another pay cut. I'd rather sell 1 P+ file than 2 Main collection.

It effectively reduces the amount of Redeemed Credits non exclusives receive per average sale. One more hurdle to take, trying to reach target levels we have no say in. One choice less to control andself market our images.

On the bright side, leaving iStock becomes more and more sustainable as an option for me. It wouldn't affect my total income as badly as it would've done a year ago.

« Reply #49 on: June 14, 2013, 16:53 »
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That's just peachy, these guys really have the winning friends and influencing people thing down pat, don't they?  I don't suppose it occurred to them to just move P+ into the new collection while they make up their minds instead of handing out another pay cut.  My 15% of a small number sold just as well, if not better, at the higher point as they did at the lower.  The irony is that folks all would have picked their P+ on a similar basis and, given IS take the lions share of sales revenue, who is going to lose the most?


 

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