Interesting. So he is investing his money (from getty?) in a business that will take away income from the getty news empire.

5 dollars 50% is an easy to market business model. Not surprised it is so popular.

Quote from: fotoVoyager on July 16, 2013, 10:44

More from Yuri Acurs:

http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/16/scoopshot/

Odd.  We've already learned that neither "citizen journalism" stock nor "assignment" stock works as a paradigm.  Already many such businesses out of business.

Even odder ... I thought Yuri told us that "Professionals deal with professionals". So why is he buying into the efforts of amateurs with phone cameras?

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on July 16, 2013, 10:48

Quote from: fotoVoyager on July 16, 2013, 10:44

More from Yuri Acurs:

http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/16/scoopshot/

Odd.  We've already learned that neither "citizen journalism" stock nor "assignment" stock works as a paradigm.  Already many such businesses out of business.

Even odder ... I thought Yuri told us that "Professionals deal with professionals". So why is he buying into the efforts of amateurs with phone cameras?

He's only dealing with management. The crowdsourced plebs are nothing to do with him.

Some should report false advertising.

Us?

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on July 16, 2013, 13:54

Quote from: Ron on July 16, 2013, 11:27

Some should report false advertising.

Us?

Ask yourself this:
A) are you suffering as the result of false advertising?
B) Will you be happy having the authorities tell GI that Beppe Grillo has lodged a complaint against them, so they are now subject of legal proceedings?

I don't know about other countries, but in the UK:
1. There is no necessity that you have suffered as a result, it just has to be false advertising which you report. You don't need to have been affected in any way, just to have seen the advert.
1b It's arguable that we are suffering by finding ourselves contributing to such a dishonest company.
2. The ASA promise not to reveal your name.

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on July 16, 2013, 13:54

Quote from: Ron on July 16, 2013, 11:27

Some should report false advertising.

Us?

Ask yourself this:
A) are you suffering as the result of false advertising?
B) Will you be happy having the authorities tell GI that Beppe Grillo has lodged a complaint against them, so they are now subject of legal proceedings?

ShadySue answered you better than I could do (in english) - the situation is similar in all Europe Union.

And yes I suffer about false advertising, I suffer about unfair and inequitable behavior.

Ron's post: "Some should report false advertising" remembered me a french saying: � armons nous et partez� � I don't know if it exists in english, but it could sound like "Let us arm and let you go�"

just seen this ad

Funny how they just make up numbers and pretend they are real advertising points.

Yesterday's email said "Our seasonal galleries are handpicked by our editors and perfect for the season (or holiday or current event or trending topic) everybody's talking about.", except they are nothing but search result returns.  Unless their editoris handpicked 55,000 autumn images.

True and apparently Gillian hasn't been informed about the "Race to the Bottom". This is how a new industry or technology weeds out the weak. Everyone operates on the principle that buyers will come to them for the lowest prices alone, and that quality or customer service are of no consequence. They are dead wrong and soon to be a historical footnote.

I know many of you have some sales and marketing background, and one of the most basic foundations is, competing on price alone is the worst way to grow or sustain a business.

IS should be raising prices and commissions to knock out the competition. But maybe it's just too late. Then we'll start to see desperation and last gasps. Things like half price sales. Oh Oh, what's 50% off? 

Quote from: gillian on July 16, 2013, 06:52

if iS lowers the price of all the indie stuff (that is also on FT, DT, SS etc) won't that mean those other agencies will be forced to lower their prices too?

I think they've played this really well and the goal may be to smash the competition (at our expense, of course).

Business plans @ our expense is the micro mantra these days.  This group has never been fair and they get uglier every day.  It is long past time to afford them the benefit of doubt. They have proved who they are time after time, year after year.

We only have ourselves to blame if we leave our images on IS and BS.... the giant * sound is getting louder.

how could I not have heard of the race to the bottom... it's all people talk about around here. They've also been predicting the fall of iS for a number of years.

Supermarket chains do exactly this to squeeze out independent competitors, they drop prices ridiculously low on certain items (esp f&v) knowing they can cover their bottom lines with other products.  once the competitor is gone they can slowly increase prices again. (actually they don't increase prices, they reduce of the size of the product so you don't notice).

Tiger does work for me, nothing but tigers. Spaniel works, too. They have done something to sort out the search.

Tiger does work for me, nothing but tigers. Spaniel works, too. They have done something to sort out the search.

Tiger mostly works for me (a few non-tigers, nothing like as many as before), though the 'new' search shows they're seldom checking keywording - many 'tiger skin's or 'tiger fabric's, both of which have their own DA.

Not checking new files is really a cost saving too much. E.g. looking at 'iceberg' sorted by new, there are a LOT of photos of ice cubes all by the same person, and we can see that the translation of 'berg' (mountain) to iceberg, which I first reported to them in 2009, hasn't been sorted yet.

If they have chosen not to inspect keywords on submission, no wonder they allow new files to drop rapidly in the best match. I uploaded one last week which fell below the first 25% of files for its main keyword well inside 48 hours of acceptance. So there is no reward for keywording new files accurately.

One of the problems is that so often, the DAs you're asked for on uploading aren't the same as the options people get when searching. Taking tiger as an example:

One of the options for a searcher is 'tiger print', but that isn't an option when uploading; though you can input 'tiger print' which is in the CV, a lot of people keyword tiger prints as 'tiger skin' and/or 'tiger'

1. Your pre - search example is offering everything with tiger as the stem. It's a mixture of disambiguation options and CV terms with 'tiger' as the stem. That seems perfectly sensible and as it should be. I cannot understand why you believe it is a problem.

2. I do not understand why you are saying that 'tiger print' is not an option when uploading. As you say it is in the CV. So it is an option.

And if you look at the hierarchy, 'tiger print' is a disambiguation option for 'tiger skin'. A contributor entering 'tiger skin' is offered the option to choose 'tiger print'. They can choose how precise and accurate they want to be. All of this makes good sense given that search is based on relevancy data. So prints that are wrongly disambiguation as skins will drop down in searches for skins.

Back up the thread someone else was complaining that search by new files contained lots of poorly keyworded new content. That is to be expected surely - lots of contributors use irrelevant keywords. Or they irritatingly edit their files to add irrelevant bulk and spurious keywords after acceptance. The apparently renewed focus on relevancy should make that sort of practice counter productive (like at Alamy but done slightly differently).

I don't believe that it will take buyers long to figure that new file searches tend to be less focused. That won't always be a bad thing.