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ShadySue

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« Reply #175 on: July 09, 2013, 06:04 »
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They haven't sorted out the GI sales muddle, which they have said they're going to sort out before they start PP. No sense of urgency, deadlines are made and missed. I wonder how many people worked evenings and weekends on this? Silly question, probably.


« Reply #176 on: July 09, 2013, 07:15 »
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They haven't sorted out the GI sales muddle, which they have said they're going to sort out before they start PP. No sense of urgency, deadlines are made and missed. I wonder how many people worked evenings and weekends on this? Silly question, probably.

I suspect the only person working evenings and weekends in their IT department wields a vacuum cleaner.

« Reply #177 on: July 09, 2013, 07:34 »
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I really feel for those who rely on this income as part of their budget.  Simply incompetence or they don't care or both.  I mean they force us independents into a program that they don't perfect one of the most important features before launching and that's payment. Now, I am sure the connector for taking the customer's cash is never broken, a priority they should mirror for contributor payments.   

« Reply #178 on: July 09, 2013, 07:47 »
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Not paying people is very serious.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2013, 07:59 by MisterElements »

« Reply #179 on: July 09, 2013, 08:21 »
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A part of me is delighted to see IS one step closer to bankruptcy. They have run out of money, and are trying every way to keep the sinking ship afloat. No sympathy or good will from me.

The other part of me is angry and worried because my earnings are suffering because of this YAFbIS (Yet Another Fiasco by Istockphoto)

ShadySue

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« Reply #180 on: July 09, 2013, 09:18 »
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I could easily be wrong, but I don't suspect they're nearing bankruptcy.
I suspect they have badly fouled up the code for the GI payments, though why they were fiddling with it so that it got broken, I can't imagine (to make sure indies only got 15% rather than 20%?). Incompetence.

Then they are not willing to commit the manpower wages to fixing what they broke in a timely manner. Malice.
(Unless interest rates are much higher in the US/Canada than here, I don't think they're deliberately witholding the money to get interest. I could be wrong. In any case, the currency scams probably earn them far more, and the 'overhead' payments on their dodgy deals like Connect etc.

One thing that they never seem to learn is that every time they have to change the code to shaft us in some way, they waste a lot of time and effort in repairing the code they broke. Insanity.

« Reply #181 on: July 09, 2013, 13:35 »
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They haven't sorted out the GI sales muddle, which they have said they're going to sort out before they start PP. No sense of urgency, deadlines are made and missed. I wonder how many people worked evenings and weekends on this? Silly question, probably.

I suspect the only person working evenings and weekends in their IT department wields a vacuum cleaner.

and they would probably do a better job

« Reply #182 on: July 09, 2013, 14:01 »
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Oh great, now were setting a precedent!

No, we are making history!  ;D

It's only going to be an historical event  if things actually improve from here. However the history of Istock suggests that this is unlikely. In 8 years I've only ever seen the reporting of sales to get steadily slower and generally worse.

Once upon a time all Istock sales were reported in real time ... just like all the other agencies have always done. The real-time stat's were only disabled as a 'temporary measure' (due to other ***k-ups at the time) but of course they never came back.

Istock are now over 2 months late in reporting PP sales from the first week of May.

« Reply #183 on: July 09, 2013, 14:06 »
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Don't worry they will figure out a way to pass $$$ on the extra man hours being used to the contributors...ready for 12%? ;P

« Reply #184 on: July 09, 2013, 14:13 »
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Istock are now over 2 months late in reporting PP sales from the first week of May.

No, according to their own terms they are 9 days late. I mean, it's total merde - no dispute about that - but let's deal with it inside the rules that iStock imposed.

ShadySue

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« Reply #185 on: July 09, 2013, 14:16 »
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Once upon a time all Istock sales were reported in real time ... just like all the other agencies have always done.
I thought iStock regular (not subs, PP, GI) still are reported in real time: at least my (ever-fewer) dls arrive one at a time at random times of day.
True that Stats aren't updated in real time as they used to be.

« Reply #186 on: July 09, 2013, 14:19 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 12:20 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #187 on: July 09, 2013, 14:21 »
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Once upon a time all Istock sales were reported in real time ... just like all the other agencies have always done.
I thought iStock regular (not subs, PP, GI) still are reported in real time: at least my (ever-fewer) dls arrive one at a time at random times of day.
True that Stats aren't updated in real time as they used to be.
The Livestock app or the Greasemonkey script will give you stats updates in real time.
Now, if only Sean could write a real-time payout Greasemonkey script....

« Reply #188 on: July 09, 2013, 14:22 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 12:20 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #189 on: July 09, 2013, 14:25 »
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Istock are now over 2 months late in reporting PP sales from the first week of May.

No, according to their own terms they are 9 days late. I mean, it's total merde - no dispute about that - but let's deal with it inside the rules that iStock imposed.

No, according to reality they have had the money for those sales sitting in their bank account for over two months now. In fact, with annual sub packages they could actually have received the money over a year ago.

We're still some time from getting it too. Even when they eventually sort the issue (hopefully) then we still might have to wait for up to another week for a convenient cash-out day ... and then a further week from there to actually get paid.

« Reply #190 on: July 09, 2013, 14:34 »
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Come on be fair, Istock pays out much faster than almost any other site.  I get a payout every week, can you do that at 123RF or Shutterstock?

Yeah and the payment you get this week is probably one requested 2 weeks ago.  SS are monthly but ALWAYS meet or beat the target date, DT request payment hits paypal in a day or 2 but the REAL point here is that, not alone have folks not been paid but in week 2 of July PP earnings for May haven't even been reported.

« Reply #191 on: July 09, 2013, 14:36 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 12:20 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #192 on: July 09, 2013, 14:37 »
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I had zero confidence in their reporting system before...I never thought I could have negative confidence  :o. I always questioned how they know anything is accurate when there are so many bugs and broken things there. Hard to have faith in IS these days.

« Reply #193 on: July 09, 2013, 14:41 »
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Istock are now over 2 months late in reporting PP sales from the first week of May.

No, according to their own terms they are 9 days late. I mean, it's total merde - no dispute about that - but let's deal with it inside the rules that iStock imposed.

No, according to reality they have had the money for those sales sitting in their bank account for over two months now. In fact, with annual sub packages they could actually have received the money over a year ago.

We're still some time from getting it too. Even when they eventually sort the issue (hopefully) then we still might have to wait for up to another week for a convenient cash-out day ... and then a further week from there to actually get paid.

I know they've had the cash for that time but they've never said they would pay it out in less than two months (counting from the first of May to the end of the following month).

More significant is the fact they are apparently going to hang on to all that cash and not even record its existence until after they clear up their getty exclusive "issue".  There is no obvious excuse for them not activating the PP payout because something has gone wrong with the Getty payout. It appears to be a matter of choice.... like cheques being "delayed in the mail" in the old days.

I mean, if we have to wait until every bug is cured before they get round to crediting us with earnings then there will never be another payout, will there?

« Reply #194 on: July 09, 2013, 14:42 »
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They are extending the payout date until Friday so if they get it done by then you'll get your money on Monday (paypal).

No way will they clear all the PP sales between now and Friday. Even if they started now.

« Reply #195 on: July 09, 2013, 14:44 »
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They are extending the payout date until Friday so if they get it done by then you'll get your money on Monday (paypal).

Yeah right! Of course that's going to happen. Did they specify which Friday they were referring to?

« Reply #196 on: July 09, 2013, 14:49 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 12:20 by Audi 5000 »

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« Reply #197 on: July 09, 2013, 14:49 »
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at this point I would be happy on which year it will be done!

« Reply #198 on: July 09, 2013, 15:01 »
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Truthfully....at this point I'm not nearly as worried about the WHEN I get my PP money as I am IF I get my PP money at all.  Just remember who we're talking about folks...if there is a way they can keep that money for themselves without a class action lawsuit then does anybody really believe they won't?

ShadySue

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« Reply #199 on: July 09, 2013, 15:40 »
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They are extending the payout date until Friday so if they get it done by then you'll get your money on Monday (paypal).
That's a mighty big 'if'. They still haven't clawed back the GI double payments yet.
Of course, if they made the people who caused the problem [1] work all night till the fixed it, it would be OK.
[1] Which might not be the programmers, but whoever made them do whatever broke the system.

I wonder how often the regular staff don't get paid on time?


 

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