Author Topic: PP Sales October 2013 started (Read 24569 times)

Tone · « **Reply #75 on:** November 14, 2013, 07:46 »

Quote from: Ron on November 14, 2013, 07:36

I wonder why no one is reporting the sales on the IS forum, its really quiet over there, people reporting a bad month.

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=357474&page=3

Ron · « **Reply #76 on:** November 14, 2013, 07:49 »

Quote from: Tone on November 14, 2013, 07:46

Quote from: Ron on November 14, 2013, 07:36
I wonder why no one is reporting the sales on the IS forum, its really quiet over there, people reporting a bad month.

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=357474&page=3

Thanks, couldnt find that.

ShadySue · « **Reply #77 on:** November 14, 2013, 07:57 »

Quote from: Ron on November 14, 2013, 07:36

I wonder why no one is reporting the sales on the IS forum, its really quiet over there, people reporting a bad month.

You're reading a different page than I see:
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=357474&page=3

hatman12 · « **Reply #78 on:** November 14, 2013, 08:09 »

The extra money this month is something to do with the Getty 360 scheme. Lobo has confirmed that Getty 360 sales are being reported in the PP.

For those who are not aware, a few months ago Getty announced a new scheme called Getty 360. This is a private web site available only to Getty's largest customers. The site merges all Getty, iStock and PP content into one place and allows those customers to browse everything on the one site.

I presume that one reason for reduced 'normal' sales from iStock is the transfer of large accounts to the new Getty arrangement. However, 'lost' sales from those accounts are now being credited in the PP numbers.

I hope this makes sense.

ShadySue · « **Reply #79 on:** November 14, 2013, 08:16 »

Has anyone who does not have files in the regular PP seen PP sales being recorded this month, i.e. in the 360 scheme?
I have none for October. As I've said already, the previous 360 sale I got (one only, but a gratifying $50) came in with the Getty sales, but was recorded like PP (green bar).
I think Mantis (below, I forgot I was modifying, not making a new post!) has an excellent point re the RC killer aspect.
They spin everything to suit themselves.
"Only from iStock" means 'from anywhere in the Getty group' originating from iStock (or not, in the case of ingested files).
But of course, we can't get RCs from files sold outwith iStock, because, obviously, they were not 'sold from iStock', even if we didn't give any consent for the files to be sold elsewhere, and buyers are being redirected there.
It's nasty however you look at it; and I say that even though it now looks as though I should crawl over my RC target - at long last - within the next few days¹. I'm perfectly aware that their incompetence and malice, in whatever proportion is appropriate, is preventing many other people from reaching their target, and can hardly believe that it's not deliberate.
¹An EL on Tuesday (only my fifth this year) with a paltry 51c credit value was mitigated in that at least it was 125 RCs.
Added: and I'd forgotten, exclusives only get 20% on Getty360 sales, so they get us two ways.

Mantis · « **Reply #80 on:** November 14, 2013, 08:29 »

Quote from: hatman12 on November 14, 2013, 08:09

The extra money this month is something to do with the Getty 360 scheme. Lobo has confirmed that Getty 360 sales are being reported in the PP.

For those who are not aware, a few months ago Getty announced a new scheme called Getty 360. This is a private web site available only to Getty's largest customers. The site merges all Getty, iStock and PP content into one place and allows those customers to browse everything on the one site.

I presume that one reason for reduced 'normal' sales from iStock is the transfer of large accounts to the new Getty arrangement. However, 'lost' sales from those accounts are now being credited in the PP numbers.

I hope this makes sense.

This makes total sense, Hatman. There must then be a phase two because Shadysue (Liz) brings up a good question about exclusive income. I wonder what the whole value proposition is by Getty 360, whether it's simply customer convenience, or a better, less transparent way to keep chipping away at commissions. People who don't understand and may be blinded by the hike in commissions must ask how much would they have made if those same images were sold on Istock? Moreover, since they are recorded as PP, it's a RC KILLER, thus ensuring that the lions share of contributors on IS do not meet their current levels and drop to a lower commission. While I too like the hike in revenue, I am suspicious of the broader intentions.

Ron · « **Reply #81 on:** November 14, 2013, 08:54 »

Quote from: ShadySue on November 14, 2013, 07:57

Quote from: Ron on November 14, 2013, 07:36
I wonder why no one is reporting the sales on the IS forum, its really quiet over there, people reporting a bad month.

You're reading a different page than I see:
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=357474&page=3

Correct, I confirmed that in the comment right above yours when someone posted that link right above me.

ShadySue · « **Reply #82 on:** November 14, 2013, 08:55 »

Quote from: Ron on November 14, 2013, 08:54

Quote from: ShadySue on November 14, 2013, 07:57
Quote from: Ron on November 14, 2013, 07:36
I wonder why no one is reporting the sales on the IS forum, its really quiet over there, people reporting a bad month.

You're reading a different page than I see:
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=357474&page=3
Correct, I confirmed that in the comment right above yours when someone posted that link right above me.

Sorry - too often I make a post, get distracted and forget to hit 'post' until a while later.

niserin · « **Reply #83 on:** November 14, 2013, 10:00 »

PP program sales constitute about 95% of my Istock sales this month

. And the revenue digit is lovely.
I wonder what's behind it and how it will look in a broader view in the future....
If it keeps going like that, Istock for non-exclusives will jump back into the Top Tier in no time.

jjneff · « **Reply #84 on:** November 14, 2013, 10:03 »

Seeing all of these oh yeah numbers for non-exclusives makes me feel left out.

niserin · « **Reply #85 on:** November 14, 2013, 10:05 »

Quote from: jjneff on November 14, 2013, 10:03

Seeing all of these oh yeah numbers for non-exclusives makes me feel left out.

Are you istock exclusive ?

cobalt · « **Reply #86 on:** November 14, 2013, 10:10 »

I only have 500 files in pp, but over 76 dollars. I hope there will be no refunds.

tickstock · « **Reply #87 on:** November 14, 2013, 10:11 »

tickstock · « **Reply #88 on:** November 14, 2013, 10:14 »

jjneff · « **Reply #89 on:** November 14, 2013, 10:14 »

Yes I am exclusive

cobalt · « **Reply #90 on:** November 14, 2013, 10:16 »

All content is in getty360. including exclusive content. you cannot opt out of that one. so if these are getty360 sales, you should be getting them too.

tickstock · « **Reply #91 on:** November 14, 2013, 10:18 »

mlwinphoto · « **Reply #92 on:** November 14, 2013, 10:30 »

Quote from: jjneff on November 14, 2013, 10:03

Seeing all of these oh yeah numbers for non-exclusives makes me feel left out.

Exclusive or non-exclusive....it's your choice.

loop · « **Reply #93 on:** November 14, 2013, 10:39 »

Quote from: Ron on November 14, 2013, 07:36

I wonder why no one is reporting the sales on the IS forum, its really quiet over there, people reporting a bad month.

Because these sales are reported in the Partners Program Forum, no in the general "Discussion" forum.

Nepal · « **Reply #94 on:** November 14, 2013, 10:41 »

Had my BME on Istock!!

The royalties from PP are 12 times more than what I made on Istock with a RPD of $0.9. Almost all the sales are from Thinkstock, with a handful from Photos.com. The connector started working the past few months and about 80% of my images made it to PP. I think it was the same for a lot of non-exclusives. So the boost in income was expected. But the non-subs sale this month was a surprise helped with a couple of extended license sales.

Shelma1 · « **Reply #95 on:** November 14, 2013, 10:43 »

Quote from: Paulfleet on November 14, 2013, 07:09

Any one got pp sales for after the 25th?

Yup, mine started showing up this morning. Easily my BME there, even without the iStock sales from the 25th on showing up. Closing in on Shutterstock. Amazed and happy and hoping it's real.

bunhill · « **Reply #96 on:** November 14, 2013, 10:50 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on November 14, 2013, 10:43

Amazed and happy and hoping it's real.

Perhaps it's a dream. You can never be sure.

Noedelhap · « **Reply #97 on:** November 14, 2013, 10:53 »

Quote from: Mantis on November 14, 2013, 08:29

Quote from: hatman12 on November 14, 2013, 08:09
The extra money this month is something to do with the Getty 360 scheme. Lobo has confirmed that Getty 360 sales are being reported in the PP.

For those who are not aware, a few months ago Getty announced a new scheme called Getty 360. This is a private web site available only to Getty's largest customers. The site merges all Getty, iStock and PP content into one place and allows those customers to browse everything on the one site.

I presume that one reason for reduced 'normal' sales from iStock is the transfer of large accounts to the new Getty arrangement. However, 'lost' sales from those accounts are now being credited in the PP numbers.

I hope this makes sense.

This makes total sense, Hatman. There must then be a phase two because Shadysue (Liz) brings up a good question about exclusive income. I wonder what the whole value proposition is by Getty 360, whether it's simply customer convenience, or a better, less transparent way to keep chipping away at commissions. People who don't understand and may be blinded by the hike in commissions must ask how much would they have made if those same images were sold on Istock? Moreover, since they are recorded as PP, it's a RC KILLER, thus ensuring that the lions share of contributors on IS do not meet their current levels and drop to a lower commission. While I too like the hike in revenue, I am suspicious of the broader intentions.

Yeah, me too. I suspect the proverbial fly in the ointment will rear its ugly head soon.

Losing out on RC's is not that bad for me anymore, as illustrators have a standard 20% again since the change this year. So for now, I'm gladly welcoming the sales.

pancaketom · « **Reply #98 on:** November 14, 2013, 11:02 »

I hope they have managed to get all these sales from IS and Getty rather than somewhere that paid a better percent. If there isn't something equivalent for exclusives coming along that is a tough blow. One does wonder if this is a real boost all of a sudden or if they are only now reporting something that has been going on for a while though, with IS you never know.

It is a way to lower RC totals, but personally RC doesn't seem to matter for me anymore since there is no way I am going to make my target.

cobalt · « **Reply #99 on:** November 14, 2013, 11:06 »

@tickstock

what does getty360 have to do with price? I thought the program was for super special customers who would obviously be getting super large discounts. and lobo confirmed these sales where from 360.

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=357474&messageid=6956574

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