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Title: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: karkozphoto on January 28, 2014, 16:17
PP started for December. Good luck!  ;)
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: dingles on January 28, 2014, 16:23
nothing for me...not a single Getty sale either...I may just bang my head repeatedly on my desk for a while
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Copidosoma on January 28, 2014, 16:24
LOL, All that waiting for $0.28  :o.

What a joke. At least they didn't claw back Nov or Oct. Although who knows how much I was "supposed" to make in December.

Did I mention, "what a joke"?

 ::)
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: ShadySue on January 28, 2014, 16:37
According to the PP thread over there, they're currently on 2nd Dec, so it's apparently not over yet.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Goofy on January 28, 2014, 16:48
I am planning on half of what I made in October which suits me fine...
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Mantis on January 28, 2014, 16:56
LOL, All that waiting for $0.28  :o.

What a joke. At least they didn't claw back Nov or Oct. Although who knows how much I was "supposed" to make in December.

Did I mention, "what a joke"?

 ::)

That still may happen unless I am missing something.  I didn't see anything saying that clawbacks were completed.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: ACS on January 28, 2014, 17:02
A promising start for me; 2 days, 3,96 with 500+.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Copidosoma on January 28, 2014, 17:11
According to the PP thread over there, they're currently on 2nd Dec, so it's apparently not over yet.

Yes, I see that. I didn't realize they did it like that. I figured they update the whole month at the same time. Shows how much I've ever paid attention to the PP.

FWIW I'm up to a whopping $0.56 now  ::)
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: ShadySue on January 28, 2014, 17:17
LOL, All that waiting for $0.28  :o.

What a joke. At least they didn't claw back Nov or Oct. Although who knows how much I was "supposed" to make in December.

Did I mention, "what a joke"?

 ::)

That still may happen unless I am missing something.  I didn't see anything saying that clawbacks were completed.
I didn't see anything that clawbacks were started.
Allegedly, those affected were supposed to get emails first, and I haven't read that they've gone out.
"We will be sending the affected contributors email notifications of the total amount over paid as well as a recoupment schedule in the very near future. " Lobo, 9th Jan, but that'll be an iStock time indication. In fact, in the same updated post (top of the overpayment thread) he specified "We will be sending email notifications to the impacted contributors in the next week", which, as it was posted 9th Jan is well past the indicated date.

Hey you might get lucky. Maybe the difficulties and expense of clawing back the money will be more than the money they lose, so you might get to keep it (pigs might fly!).
Woteva, seems they're still on Dec 2nd.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Red Dove on January 28, 2014, 17:20
But it's only the 28th!!

What probably happened is the IT Manager's hairpiece fell off and when he bent over to pick it up, his butt flicked the PP switch on - they just haven't noticed it yet.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Goofy on January 28, 2014, 17:39
Yep, the first two days covered thus the start of some $$
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Canonbabe on January 28, 2014, 19:06
PP December is on the 3rd now....I'm so surprised to receive any money. I wonder what is going to happen next: they take it back as a "repossesion" for their october mess? Where is that email they were about to send out two weeks ago?

Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: lisafx on January 28, 2014, 19:56
I don't think clawbacks have started.  The first few days look about as usual for me and the money is showing in my balance. 
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Lizard on January 28, 2014, 20:15
(http://www.emmezeta.hr/repository/images/_variations/b/2/b2e04affb55072ba89d50f965895f8e6_category_large.jpg)

Lets move green to the left, yellow to the right, remove one blue and add one white.... ta da da dam dam dam  ;D
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Mantis on January 28, 2014, 20:16
LOL, All that waiting for $0.28  :o.

What a joke. At least they didn't claw back Nov or Oct. Although who knows how much I was "supposed" to make in December.

Did I mention, "what a joke"?

 ::)

That still may happen unless I am missing something.  I didn't see anything saying that clawbacks were completed.
I didn't see anything that clawbacks were started.
Allegedly, those affected were supposed to get emails first, and I haven't read that they've gone out.
"We will be sending the affected contributors email notifications of the total amount over paid as well as a recoupment schedule in the very near future. " Lobo, 9th Jan, but that'll be an iStock time indication. In fact, in the same updated post (top of the overpayment thread) he specified "We will be sending email notifications to the impacted contributors in the next week", which, as it was posted 9th Jan is well past the indicated date.

Hey you might get lucky. Maybe the difficulties and expense of clawing back the money will be more than the money they lose, so you might get to keep it (pigs might fly!).
Woteva, seems they're still on Dec 2nd.

For me I doubt it.  My PP sales were up by roughly $400, so I expect a clawback of $400. Man that is the epitome of incompetance.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Uncle Pete on January 28, 2014, 20:17
I'll watch and see, I didn't get the notice or deleted it without reading. Shows how much I care about spam from agencies.

But I have a bunch of purple bars, no little green ones, which translated means, Getty Image DLs are through for the whole month for me, not one PP from TS?

I don't post numbers but fact is, I could go to Wendy's for some chili and a chocolate malt thing, get change back. Whoo Hoo big celebration.  ::)

Honestly I'm saving my Micro payments for an 8MM lens right now. Couple more months and I'll have that for night sky time-lapse shooting. (no not suitable for Microstock as usual, I just want to do it.)
 

PP December is on the 3rd now....I'm so surprised to receive any money. I wonder what is going to happen next: they take it back as a "repossesion" for their october mess? Where is that email they were about to send out two weeks ago?
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Goofy on January 28, 2014, 20:29
PP up to the 4th of the month now...
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Mantis on January 28, 2014, 20:36
PP up to the 4th of the month now...

Holy SH*t at this rate there will be another claw back. 
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Goofy on January 28, 2014, 21:04
"Holy SH*t at this rate there will be another claw back.  "

More like two claw backs lol!
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Canonbabe on January 29, 2014, 13:18
PP up to the 16th of the month now. looks normal so far. What I noticed: I had regular sales all month, but no sales at all between december 24th and dec 29th like the site was closed. Anyone else the same pattern?
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: lisafx on January 29, 2014, 13:35
PP up to the 16th of the month now. looks normal so far. What I noticed: I had regular sales all month, but no sales at all between december 24th and dec 29th like the site was closed. Anyone else the same pattern?

You mean no sales on Istock itself  for those days? Seems pretty normal to me.  Week between Christmas and New Years is always dead. I got a few sales, but less than on a typical Saturday. 
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Canonbabe on January 29, 2014, 13:52
PP up to the 16th of the month now. looks normal so far. What I noticed: I had regular sales all month, but no sales at all between december 24th and dec 29th like the site was closed. Anyone else the same pattern?

You mean no sales on Istock itself  for those days? Seems pretty normal to me.  Week between Christmas and New Years is always dead. I got a few sales, but less than on a typical Saturday.

I sell images on other sites too but none of them remained "as quiet" as IStock...

Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Yure on January 29, 2014, 13:58
PP up to the 16th of the month now. looks normal so far. What I noticed: I had regular sales all month, but no sales at all between december 24th and dec 29th like the site was closed. Anyone else the same pattern?

No. I had only 9 Istock (non PP sales), 2 of them on Dec 26th.

About PP sales, it seems to me strange that I have 9 sales in the first 8 days of December and none at all after.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: karkozphoto on January 29, 2014, 14:15
In my statement stopped on 17th so far.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Red Dove on January 29, 2014, 14:42
Doing very well so far, which means it will chafe that much more when they finally figure out how to do their sums - and start reaching across the table for my previous winnings. Pirates.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Beppe Grillo on January 29, 2014, 16:08
Ooh! It will be another Oktoberfest!
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: lisafx on January 29, 2014, 18:29
Ooh! It will be another Oktoberfest!

I'm thinking more like OktoberFIST. 
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: PZF on January 30, 2014, 03:20
If it looks too good to be true (and it does).....!!!

October revisited?

Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: grey1 on January 30, 2014, 03:55
Same here. Very good so far.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: PZF on January 30, 2014, 04:09
My 'good' month is almost entirely due to just two 'exceptional' days. Is there a way to see what was actually downloaded in PP? It all seems very dark and mysterious to me. Maybe there were a couple ELS .... a stolen credit card ......  or something.....
?
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Shelma1 on January 30, 2014, 07:33
My month was just okay, which I figured would happen with the Christmas dropoff. However, I also have two exceptional days...18 and 19. I didn't make that many more sales those days, but my earnings were much higher.

And now I'm back to wondering if those two days are wrong or if the other 29 are purposely under-reported.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on January 30, 2014, 07:38
Almost the same as Dec 2012, which is OK, I suppose.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: ShazamImages on January 30, 2014, 07:59
Is there any way to see details for PP?  Like which images sold on which dates?
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: fritz on January 30, 2014, 08:04
Is there any way to see details for PP?  Like which images sold on which dates?
Yes,

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/istock-myuploads-fixes/ckloododgagaeepfamopjnjgbhbanlcg
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Mantis on January 30, 2014, 08:41
Is there any way to see details for PP?  Like which images sold on which dates?
Yes,

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/istock-myuploads-fixes/ckloododgagaeepfamopjnjgbhbanlcg

Fritz,

What are the ABC's on how to use this? I have Chrome installed and downloaded the add on, but can't seem to find out how to add my account details.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Mantis on January 30, 2014, 08:42
If it looks too good to be true (and it does).....!!!

October revisited?

That's what I was saying in my original post above, but it's calmed down considerably, almost back to the pre Oct levels.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: fritz on January 30, 2014, 08:53
Is there any way to see details for PP?  Like which images sold on which dates?
Yes,

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/istock-myuploads-fixes/ckloododgagaeepfamopjnjgbhbanlcg

Fritz,

What are the ABC's on how to use this? I have Chrome installed and downloaded the add on, but can't seem to find out how to add my account details.

Thanks in advance.

Briefly, go to my uploads click on PP tab than click red arrow to expand info when and where the files were dl.
Hope it helps.
 
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: dpimborough on January 30, 2014, 08:58
Not a single sale over $0.28 and overall 60% less than November.

What a crock  >:(
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: ShadySue on January 30, 2014, 09:26
Not a single sale over $0.28 and overall 60% less than November.

What a crock  >:(

I hope you've read that November was a mistake? I noticed that a few people on the PP thread over there don't seem to know this and are wondering why their PP dls are down from Nov. (Didn't see many of them wondering why they had one aberrant good month).
Just in case you, or anyone else, hasn't heard:
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=358476&page=1 (http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=358476&page=1)
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: BaldricksTrousers on January 30, 2014, 09:59
I think he means it was down on the November chart bar, not on the earnings reported in November. It was the October chart bar that was screwed up, not the November one.  But December is always down, so much of it is given over to holidays in the West.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: PZF on January 30, 2014, 10:30
My month was just okay, which I figured would happen with the Christmas dropoff. However, I also have two exceptional days...18 and 19. I didn't make that many more sales those days, but my earnings were much higher.

And now I'm back to wondering if those two days are wrong or if the other 29 are purposely under-reported.

Me too. Same days.
Sigh...............!
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: ShadySue on January 30, 2014, 10:43
I think he means it was down on the November chart bar, not on the earnings reported in November. It was the October chart bar that was screwed up, not the November one.  But December is always down, so much of it is given over to holidays in the West.
Oh, I didn't realise that as I'm not in the PP. Dec is usually my 3rd BMY on iS.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Goofy on January 30, 2014, 10:56
According to my stats the PP is over for Dec 2013. I did okay considering all things....
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Noedelhap on January 30, 2014, 11:29
I did bad, in December. Both in terms of PP and regular sales. Luckily, January is on the up again.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Goofy on January 30, 2014, 11:32
I wonder if some $$ were taken back from our Dec PP due to the overpayment in Oct? I am sure we will never know... :(
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: dpimborough on January 30, 2014, 12:05
Not a single sale over $0.28 and overall 60% less than November.

What a crock  >:(

I hope you've read that November was a mistake? I noticed that a few people on the PP thread over there don't seem to know this and are wondering why their PP dls are down from Nov. (Didn't see many of them wondering why they had one aberrant good month).
Just in case you, or anyone else, hasn't heard:
[url]http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=358476&page=1[/url] ([url]http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=358476&page=1[/url])


Yup I meant the sales quantity (sorry should have explained)

In fact the Dec. sales were worse than August when I had hardly half the photos I do now in PP.

What a really flipping crock :(
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: lisafx on January 30, 2014, 14:46
My month was just okay, which I figured would happen with the Christmas dropoff. However, I also have two exceptional days...18 and 19. I didn't make that many more sales those days, but my earnings were much higher.

And now I'm back to wondering if those two days are wrong or if the other 29 are purposely under-reported.

Me too. Same days.
Sigh...............!

Well, if it's any comfort, I also had two very good days, but they were different days (16th & 17th).  My 18th and 19th sales were just average. 

Overall the PP totals are about what I would have expected for December.  Nothing out of the ordinary. 
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: PZF on January 30, 2014, 15:08
Thanks Lisafx - Hopefuly (?) it's just paranoia setting in!
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: gostwyck on January 30, 2014, 15:11
Overall the PP totals are about what I would have expected for December.  Nothing out of the ordinary.

Same here. I was about 8% up on the year before.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Anyka on January 30, 2014, 16:39
Strange, I expected that they would do the December reporting and the October Clawback simultaneously.  The way they do it now (report December first), we are able to cash in December PP + January Sales ... or at least we are able to submit a payment request BEFORE we know how much they'll take back. 
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Mantis on January 30, 2014, 17:20
I now have green bars on all days for December but unless they have more to load PP died a quick death. Second half of month I am averaging $3 a day while on the first half it's $12 average per day.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: luissantos84 on January 30, 2014, 17:26
worst PP ever with only 15.96$! thanks iStock ;)
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Red Dove on January 30, 2014, 17:40
I did well with two very good days on the 16th/17th which seems to be a peak period judging by feedback in this thread. Anybody else see an uptick between the 16th - 19th?

Given IS's unique talent for ballsing up their ledger, I'm slightly worried the machine might have burped out the wrong numbers again.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Cesar on January 30, 2014, 17:46
Not a single sale over $0.28 and overall 60% less than November.

What a crock  >:(

I have 200 downloads on PP and only 2 of them are over 0.28  ( bussiness photos mostly)

Can be this possible?  Anyone the same?

This must be mistake!! on ss is every 10-20 non subscription.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: lisafx on January 30, 2014, 18:37
Not a single sale over $0.28 and overall 60% less than November.

What a crock  >:(

I have 200 downloads on PP and only 2 of them are over 0.28  ( bussiness photos mostly)

Can be this possible?  Anyone the same?

This must be mistake!! on ss is every 10-20 non subscription.

The vast majority of my sales through the PP are always subs.  The only deviations from that were October, and late Sept.  And turns out those were a mistake. 

You can't really compare PP to Shutterstock.  SS is vastly more popular and has devoted a lot of time and energy to beefing up their non-subscription offerings. 
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: wordplanet on January 31, 2014, 00:58
PP in December was significantly higher than usual for me, though less than October's reported PP earnings. Depending on the amount of the clawback, it could be my BME for the PP.
Regular earnings this January are slightly above average.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: Cesar on January 31, 2014, 14:16
PP in December was significantly higher than usual for me, though less than October's reported PP earnings. Depending on the amount of the clawback, it could be my BME for the PP.
Regular earnings this January are slightly above average.

SS up 20%, istock total down 45%, i dont believe that can be such difference.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: grey1 on January 31, 2014, 14:40
Almost as good as October. Third month in a row that PP is producing great results.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: landbysea on February 01, 2014, 07:38
How did I get $60 for a single PP download? Would that be Getty 360?
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: dingles on February 01, 2014, 09:20
Average PP ales in December. Had a few above .28. Dead at the end of the month but that was expected
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: ShadySue on February 01, 2014, 09:30
How did I get $60 for a single PP download? Would that be Getty 360?
It certainly could have been; but Getty360 arrives in your balance at the GI update, not the PP update, though it shows green not purple on your bars.
Don't ask me why.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: landbysea on February 01, 2014, 10:46
How did I get $60 for a single PP download? Would that be Getty 360?
It certainly could have been; but Getty360 arrives in your balance at the GI update, not the PP update, though it shows green not purple on your bars.
Don't ask me why.
Thanks that must be it. I didn't really check the stat page when Getty came in. I still don't really get it but I guess I shouldn't ask too many questions.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: ShadySue on February 01, 2014, 10:53
How did I get $60 for a single PP download? Would that be Getty 360?
It certainly could have been; but Getty360 arrives in your balance at the GI update, not the PP update, though it shows green not purple on your bars.
Don't ask me why.
Thanks that must be it. I didn't really check the stat page when Getty came in. I still don't really get it but I guess I shouldn't ask too many questions.
I'm not sure if anybody 'gets it'. I may well have got the first one, $50 several months back. Nobody here could understand it (I'm not in the PP), and when I wrote to CR, they didn't understand it until they'd checked with Getty. The following month, I saw questions about it on the iS forum, and the mods there had to check.
Typical: keep your own staff ignorant, far less the contributors.
Title: Re: PP started for December - finally!
Post by: dingles on February 01, 2014, 11:43
They are probably afraid to add another color bar for 360, it may loosen a bolt in the system :P