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« Reply #50 on: August 29, 2011, 16:57 »
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I love the clause where it says that they can use your work for promotion with no royalities.

Geeze can't you even come up with $2   super tight arses


mlwinphoto

« Reply #51 on: August 29, 2011, 17:00 »
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I'm assuming this is coming from Getty.  As a former Photolibrary contributor having to now decide whether to sign on with Getty this whole issue is making that decision alot easier for me.  Any other ex-PL contributors still on the fence as to what to do??

« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2011, 17:00 »
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If you delete your portfolio and still have outstanding earnings, you lose that, right?  So I'm better off leaving it there until I earn my next payout and then deleting my portfolio, right?

lobo said you would get any money owed you.

ShadySue

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« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2011, 17:00 »
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If you delete your portfolio and still have outstanding earnings, you lose that, right?  So I'm better off leaving it there until I earn my next payout and then deleting my portfolio, right?
No, Lobo assures us you'll get your royalties.

« Reply #54 on: August 29, 2011, 17:02 »
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So, if we disagree, our istock account is closed and the portfolio deleted?

ShadySue

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« Reply #55 on: August 29, 2011, 17:03 »
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I love the clause where it says that they can use your work for promotion with no royalities.
Geeze can't you even come up with $2   super tight arses
Yeah, it's a real cheek. Not that they'd want mine, but I opted out of the promotion deal with the RC bombshell in September. I guess a lot of other people must have done likewise.

ShadySue

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« Reply #56 on: August 29, 2011, 17:04 »
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So, if we disagree, our istock account is closed and the portfolio deleted?
Not sure when, but for the present, once they log you out and you log in again, if you don't sign right away, you can't upload.

« Reply #57 on: August 29, 2011, 17:04 »
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I just submitted cancellation for exclusivity. It is done. Then by 30 days I'll dismantle my portfolio . Getty, you really soured something good into a complete pisser.

« Reply #58 on: August 29, 2011, 17:06 »
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If you delete your portfolio and still have outstanding earnings, you lose that, right?  So I'm better off leaving it there until I earn my next payout and then deleting my portfolio, right?

No, if you delete your account, you'll get paid whatever you have earned.

« Reply #59 on: August 29, 2011, 17:10 »
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Istock just for exclusives? All others stuff buyers go to Thinkstock and get it cheaper??

« Reply #60 on: August 29, 2011, 17:15 »
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on first very quick reading

- it seems that non-exclusives are being presented with another bitter pill to swallow...  images will be dumped on to Partner Program sites for a royalty pittance, without any option.  It is clear that they didnt dare (in this "first iteration" of changes, as mentioned in an istock forum post) to try and foist this on to exclusives, as they know that this is a deal breaker for many exclusives.  

who knows what the "second iteration" may bring...

(what was/is the point of the online contributor survey?   SFA it seems).

Wish that this negative stuff wasnt my first forum post, but it is difficult to stay silent...

Regards

ShadySue

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« Reply #61 on: August 29, 2011, 17:21 »
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who knows what the "second iteration" may bring...
Scary all the iterations. Sounds like it will be death by a thousand cuts, with no single cut, like JJ's "no single intention" on its own being fatal.

« Reply #62 on: August 29, 2011, 17:21 »
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I just submitted cancellation for exclusivity. It is done. Then by 30 days I'll dismantle my portfolio . Getty, you really soured something good into a complete pisser.

Not sure what your plans are, but as an independent, iStock can be a significant part of your monthly microstock earnings. I completely get your anger with Getty (although I'd also add H&F to that) but there is life post-exclusivity. There are a number of us who have left since last September's bombshell - in my case my 30 day wait was up at the beginning of June - but most haven't left iStock completely, just left exclusivity.

« Reply #63 on: August 29, 2011, 17:26 »
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Now I'm faced with a very difficult decision - should I leave iStock altogether? I'm seriously considering leaving, but it will cost me a significant drop in income. I wish I knew what to do. I'm wondering how many of us independents will leave altogether - if most of us leave, will this harm iStock? Would they even care?

« Reply #64 on: August 29, 2011, 17:30 »
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I just submitted cancellation for exclusivity. It is done. Then by 30 days I'll dismantle my portfolio . Getty, you really soured something good into a complete pisser.

Not sure what your plans are, but as an independent, iStock can be a significant part of your monthly microstock earnings. I completely get your anger with Getty (although I'd also add H&F to that) but there is life post-exclusivity. There are a number of us who have left since last September's bombshell - in my case my 30 day wait was up at the beginning of June - but most haven't left iStock completely, just left exclusivity.

I'm fed up with it all, I don't want my stuff distributed on any of their sites. I don't want to feed them anymore. I may explore other micro sites in the future, but for now I'm done with iStock altogether.

RT


« Reply #65 on: August 29, 2011, 17:35 »
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For ages independent contributors having been coming to this forum and stating how their sales on Shutterstock have been growing and that they are their biggest earning site - well guess what, iStock read it and now they're taking action.

« Reply #66 on: August 29, 2011, 17:54 »
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So...

If you say "no" to the new agreement:

-your files actually on istock are always selling
-istock can not mirroring the files to cheaper partner sites
-you can not upload new files anymore

If you say "yes"

- Your files are mirrored to other sites for cheapest price
- You are killing SS and other good earners
- You can upload new files

Is it right or not?

« Reply #67 on: August 29, 2011, 18:00 »
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Just sent support ticket to close my account, I'm done there. It's quite clear non-ex are not wanted.

« Reply #68 on: August 29, 2011, 18:01 »
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So...

If you say "no" to the new agreement:

-your files actually on istock are always selling
-istock can not mirroring the files to cheaper partner sites
-you can not upload new files anymore

If you say "yes"

- Your files are mirrored to other sites for cheapest price
- You are killing SS and other good earners
- You can upload new files

Is it right or not?

If that was all I'd be ok with it. I haven't uploaded since the last time they screwed us, but if we don't agree before Sept 28th, they will consider that agreeing - nice huh?

Cogent Marketing

« Reply #69 on: August 29, 2011, 18:15 »
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All this confirms is that iStockphoto is the grubby little company that ssssoooo many contributors (mainly non-exclusives) have been saying for ages on these forums. Their a bunch of cowboys out to make as much money as they can from all contributors with little or scant regard for the consequences. That's their raison d'tre. Why is anyone really surprised, this has been coming down the tracks for quite a while.

Grubby, grubby little outfit. Yuk. :D

lisafx

« Reply #70 on: August 29, 2011, 18:35 »
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All this confirms is that iStockphoto is the grubby little company that ssssoooo many contributors (mainly non-exclusives) have been saying for ages on these forums. Their a bunch of cowboys out to make as much money as they can from all contributors with little or scant regard for the consequences. That's their raison d'tre. Why is anyone really surprised, this has been coming down the tracks for quite a while.

Grubby, grubby little outfit. Yuk. :D

Completely agree.  Except the part about anyone being surprised.  I don't hear anyone who's surprised.

helix7

« Reply #71 on: August 29, 2011, 18:37 »
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I really wouldn't worry too much about the 'threat' to SS any time soon. They seem to have coped admirably so far and if anything SS have been aided by the Getty sales rep's (with unintended collateral damage IS resulting). I suspect that the PP's biggest problem in the inadequacy of the search more than lack of content.

I'd suggest that this move by istock is more evidence to the contrary, that a lack of content is a serious problem at ThinkStock and they needed to do something drastic to change that.

Hypothetically, if I opt to remain with istock, I'm contributing to the growth of ThinkStock and potentially helping ThinkStock evolve from the non-threat that it is now to a possibly real threat to SS in the future. Not sure I'm comfortable with that.

« Reply #72 on: August 29, 2011, 18:47 »
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Would be fun to what would happen if SS gave gave a small raise at this point,could that motivate the people seriously fed up with Istock to drop them all together ..... sorry Im tired neeeed sleep

helix7

« Reply #73 on: August 29, 2011, 18:49 »
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Would be fun to what would happen if SS gave gave a small raise at this point,could that motivate the people seriously fed up with Istock to drop them all together ..... sorry Im tired neeeed sleep

I don't need a raise to be motivated, and I'm guessing neither do many people.

I'm not rushing to any decisions today, but I feel like my hand is being forced here.

« Reply #74 on: August 29, 2011, 18:53 »
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I wonder how long till FT does something else to us. They normally go blow for blow with Istock. (unfortunately we're the punching bag)

If you got RC's for sales on partner programs etc and the royalities were the same as SS then I think they would get more support for this. I can understand Illustrators being very annoyed.  28c or $$ for a vector which one would you want.


 

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