Author Topic: sjlocke was just booted from iStock (Read 128529 times)

tickstock · « **Reply #250 on:** February 12, 2013, 22:35 »

Quote from: EmberMike on February 12, 2013, 22:30

Quote from: blackwaterimages on February 12, 2013, 22:11
Just thought I'd add that there's also a discussion going over here as well. Perhaps a few of you might want to offer your opinions... http://www.petapixel.com/2013/02/11/istockphoto-booting-top-photographer-in-wake-of-gettygoogle-hoopla/

Seems like people are missing the point over there. They're all hung up on the old microstock debate and are ignoring the bigger issue of Getty getting rid of people who they deem to be troublemakers.

Did Getty allow "troublemakers", especially such public ones, before they acquired Istock?

EmberMike · « **Reply #251 on:** February 12, 2013, 22:41 »

Quote from: tickstock on February 12, 2013, 22:35

Did Getty allow "troublemakers", especially such public ones, before they acquired Istock?

I don't know. Does it matter? Either way, it's disturbing that simply protesting a bad deal can get you canned.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #252 on:** February 12, 2013, 22:47 »

Quote from: gostwyck on February 12, 2013, 21:25

Quote from: dbvirago on February 12, 2013, 20:07
The one with 12,778 images, one of which has over 10,000 downloads, 120 with over 1000 downloads, about 1700 or so with over 100 downloads. Yeah, that one.

Would that be the same bloke that has been single-handedly generating about $1M per year in sales for Istock/Getty, constantly helping other contributors on forums and writing work-around codes (for free) to address the numerous Istock site issues?

Yep. That sounds like the guy.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #253 on:** February 12, 2013, 22:49 »

Quote from: EmberMike on February 12, 2013, 22:41

Quote from: tickstock on February 12, 2013, 22:35
Did Getty allow "troublemakers", especially such public ones, before they acquired Istock?

I don't know. Does it matter? Either way, it's disturbing that simply protesting a bad deal can get you canned.

Even more disturbing that the people who were canned, Sean and Rob, weren't the ones doing the actual protesting. Has anyone who actually removed files been dumped yet?

blackwaterimages · « **Reply #254 on:** February 12, 2013, 22:49 »

Quote from: tickstock on February 12, 2013, 22:35

Did Getty allow "troublemakers", especially such public ones, before they acquired Istock?

Getty didn't have any sort of forums until well after Bruce sold to them. I think that whatever badmouthing of Getty that happened prior to those forums (not that anything happens there NOW anyway) took place in the various forums that were in place at the time and in personal blogs, which I'm sure they viewed as inconsequential.

elvinstar · « **Reply #255 on:** February 12, 2013, 23:35 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on February 12, 2013, 22:49

Has anyone who actually removed files been dumped yet?

Not me. Still waiting for PP earnings to post so I can collect my last payout, remove my last image and terminate my account.

ouchie · « **Reply #256 on:** February 12, 2013, 23:42 »

Quote from: ouchie on February 12, 2013, 19:56

Are you guys talking abt the same sean that discovered the getty/google deal (or brought it to everyones attention) and then instigated the whole Feb 2 thing and then he wrote the script to make it easy for us all to deactivate out picures from istock?

is that the sean you are all talking about?

(I only read the first6pages of this thread)

The same one that did NOT deactivate a single one of his own files.

The same one that manipulated/used you and me to send a message to istock/getty.

The same one that made it as easy as possible to deactivate our files.

BUT DID NOT DEACTIVATE A SIGLE ONE OF HIS OWN.......is that the one!

Is that the one you are now elevationg to god like status, and feeling sorry for?

Dont you see how you/we were used and manipulated by him???

sean my hats off to you!

If getty and istock are evil then what are you?

what did yo expect getty to do, realy? he caused this whole uproar and then as he said himself sat on the sidelines and watch it go down.

Guys please open your eyes and consider what i say, dont just get defenssive abt it. think about it.

and, if i were sutterstock or any other microstock site id thik twice about taking him onboard. what if he does the same things to your company??

what getty/istock did is wrong but they are justified in getting rid of him.

I wonder how many ppl will get the chance to see this cause whats his name (leek?)keeps on deleting my posts and banning me when i speek my mind and defend myself from rude posts, yet he does not ban the person that started all the name calling.

I know what il do il post this around, he dont control the entire interned. just this place.

ouchie · « **Reply #257 on:** February 12, 2013, 23:46 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on February 12, 2013, 22:49

Quote from: EmberMike on February 12, 2013, 22:41
Quote from: tickstock on February 12, 2013, 22:35
Did Getty allow "troublemakers", especially such public ones, before they acquired Istock?

I don't know. Does it matter? Either way, it's disturbing that simply protesting a bad deal can get you canned.

Even more disturbing that the people who were canned, Sean and Rob, weren't the ones doing the actual protesting. Has anyone who actually removed files been dumped yet?

think abt what you are saying!
wernt the ones doing the actual protesting (kept making his money) did not delet any files.
but sure did make it easy as pie for yo to do it!?

cypher · « **Reply #258 on:** February 12, 2013, 23:54 »

It shouldn't matter at all to any of us who deleted files and who did not. That is a personal business choice that each person must make for themselves. However, for those who seem concerned about this, please check your information. Sean mentioned that he did in fact delete some of his files. http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/image-deactivation-tally-for-istockphoto/msg296135/#msg296135

ouchie · « **Reply #259 on:** February 13, 2013, 00:00 »

Quote from: cypher on February 12, 2013, 23:54

It shouldn't matter at all to any of us who deleted files and who did not. That is a personal business choice that each person must make for themselves. However, for those who seem concerned about his, please check your information. Sean mentioned that he did in fact delete some of his files. http://www.microstockgroup.com/istockphoto-com/image-deactivation-tally-for-istockphoto/msg296135/#msg296135

OMG----he said he took down 30. thats a three and a zero--30!
and i will bet you its 30 of his underpreforming files.
and he only did it to test his program.
and even said it was fun. trying to get yo to do it too.
look at the things said by yo ppl on the thread you just linked to.

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Quote from: lisafx on February 03, 2013, 09:58

Quote from: Poncke on February 02, 2013, 19:14

Quote from: lisafx on February 02, 2013, 15:33

Quote from: Anyka on February 02, 2013, 15:17

I did 552 more than listed (got carried away).

It's easy to get carried away, right? Good old Sean made it a breeze.

He wrote it, but is he using it himself. I remember him saying he wouldnt delete any images?

Sean is in a different position to most of us here. I suspect he is going another (but possibly even more effective) route. I do not for a minute think he's sitting back and doing nothing.

I did take down about 30. It was fun to use!

ouchie · « **Reply #260 on:** February 13, 2013, 00:03 »

I'm not trying to argue with you guys.

i don't want to fight.

that is just the way i see it. its just my personal OPINION.

all i ask is that you just consider it.

elevating a co. and ppl is how we got into this mess in the first place.

they will use you and take advantage of you every single time. its a biz and we need to treat it as such.

istock was the best thing since sliced bread--things change my friend.

shutterstock was the same--you see where they are headed now, i hope you see!

USE all these company's!

DONT be used by them!

Mars · « **Reply #261 on:** February 13, 2013, 00:20 »

ouchie · « **Reply #262 on:** February 13, 2013, 00:20 »

Quote from: bokehgal on February 12, 2013, 14:48

It appears Sean wrote a script to help a lot of his competition remove themselves from his game.

Sadly for him that act of trying to be clever backfired and blew up in his face and then ended up earning him a microstock Darwin Award instead.

I guess he is a bit shocked by it all because he was just trying to help, right?

There is something to be said for keeping your head down, not stoking the fire, nor pissing off your boss if you still want to keep your job.

WoW its not just me...yay!

ouchie · « **Reply #263 on:** February 13, 2013, 00:32 »

Quote from: Mars on February 13, 2013, 00:20

Sean DID NOT discover the getty/google deal.
Sean DID NOT instigate Feb 2 D-Day.
Sean DID delete some of his own images.
Sean DID NOT manipulate anyone into closing their accounts. He hardly participated in the discussion about D-Day.

If you're suggesting that you have deleted some files and now regret it, why are you blaming Sean? Are you a child and can't think for yourself? Can't you make your own decisions?

Maybe your posts wouldn't be deleted if you stopped telling fibs.

Quote from: ouchie on February 12, 2013, 23:42
Quote from: ouchie on February 12, 2013, 19:56
Are you guys talking abt the same sean that discovered the getty/google deal (or brought it to everyones attention) and then instigated the whole Feb 2 thing and then he wrote the script to make it easy for us all to deactivate out picures from istock?

is that the sean you are all talking about?

(I only read the first6pages of this thread)

The same one that did NOT deactivate a single one of his own files.

The same one that manipulated/used you and me to send a message to istock/getty.

The same one that made it as easy as possible to deactivate our files.

BUT DID NOT DEACTIVATE A SIGLE ONE OF HIS OWN.......is that the one!

Is that the one you are now elevationg to god like status, and feeling sorry for?

Dont you see how you/we were used and manipulated by him???

sean my hats off to you!

If getty and istock are evil then what are you?

what did yo expect getty to do, realy? he caused this whole uproar and then as he said himself sat on the sidelines and watch it go down.

Guys please open your eyes and consider what i say, dont just get defenssive abt it. think about it.

and, if i were sutterstock or any other microstock site id thik twice about taking him onboard. what if he does the same things to your company??

what getty/istock did is wrong but they are justified in getting rid of him.

I wonder how many ppl will get the chance to see this cause whats his name (leek?)keeps on deleting my posts and banning me when i speek my mind and defend myself from rude posts, yet he does not ban the person that started all the name calling.

I know what il do il post this around, he dont control the entire interned. just this place.

he broughtit to everyones attention. i belive he even said this.
he sure as heck was the worlds biggest chearleade---see his monky script or whatever he calls it.
he deleted 30 of his pics to test his script.
he did manipulate everyone. open yor eyes for you own sake.
its not abt me and what i deleted or did not delete. its about you not noticing what is going on befor your very eyes!

again what i delete on not has nothing to do with what i say. i act on my own accord not what the general public opinion is. so i do not regret nor do i blame anyone for my actions.
my friend im not a child and do think for myself and make my own decisions. and i am not afraid to think for myself and look into things and evaluate what just happend. im not "fibbing" as you say i clearly stated this is my opinion and ask you all loke and consider it.

evidently im notthe only one who thinks like this....see my last post where i quote:bokehgal.

its just so very sad that you guys have this heard mentality and follow eachother, like 8 yrolds.

you kow what they say about the view of the followers right, it never changes, your always looking at, you know what.

think think brotha think!

Mars · « **Reply #264 on:** February 13, 2013, 00:45 »

ouchie · « **Reply #265 on:** February 13, 2013, 00:48 »

this is what im saying, he she said it better then me:

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Quote from: bokehgal on Yesterday at 14:48

It appears Sean wrote a script to help a lot of his competition remove themselves from his game.

Sadly for him that act of trying to be clever backfired and blew up in his face and then ended up earning him a microstock Darwin Award instead.

I guess he is a bit shocked by it all because he was just trying to help, right?

There is something to be said for keeping your head down, not stoking the fire, nor pissing off your boss if you still want to keep your job.

ouchie · « **Reply #266 on:** February 13, 2013, 00:55 »

Quote from: Mars on February 13, 2013, 00:45

Quote from: ouchie on February 13, 2013, 00:32

he broughtit to everyones attention. i belive he even said this.
he sure as heck was the worlds biggest chearleade---see his monky script or whatever he calls it.
he deleted 30 of his pics to test his script.
he did manipulate everyone. open yor eyes for you own sake.
its not abt me and what i deleted or did not delete. its about you not noticing what is going on befor your very eyes!

again what i delete on not has nothing to do with what i say. i act on my own accord not what the general public opinion is. so i do not regret nor do i blame anyone for my actions.
my friend im not a child and do think for myself and make my own decisions. and i am not afraid to think for myself and look into things and evaluate what just happend. im not "fibbing" as you say i clearly stated this is my opinion and ask you all loke and consider it.

evidently im notthe only one who thinks like this....see my last post where i quote:bokehgal.

its just so very sad that you guys have this heard mentality and follow eachother, like 8 yrolds.

you kow what they say about the view of the followers right, it never changes, your always looking at, you know what.

think think brotha think!

Lol So let me get this straight. Although you state you act on your own accord, you're assuming everyone else that deleted their account only did so because Sean brought this issue to everyone's attention? Because he wrote a script that makes deleting files a bit easier? So if he hadn't brought it to everyone's attention and someone else did, and hadn't wrote that script, everyone would sit there and do nothing? They would just accept iStock/Getty handing over their images to Google to distribute for free? Are you saying this has nothing to do with them actually wanting to protect their intellectual property, their livelihood... their current and future income, including the income generated from the same images licenced on other sites?

Is that what you're saying? lol.

ETA

i dont know, i think you are just being defensive trying to uphold your point. thats the nicest way i can respond? i dont want to get censored again.

ouchie · « **Reply #267 on:** February 13, 2013, 00:59 »

i gota ask, you realy dont see what im saying? realy?
Nothing i have said is at all possible?
your saying, what im saying, is like saying the sun rises on the north and sets on the south?

Mars · « **Reply #268 on:** February 13, 2013, 01:04 »

MichaelJayFoto · « **Reply #269 on:** February 13, 2013, 01:04 »

Quote from: ouchie on February 12, 2013, 23:42

The same one that manipulated/used you and me to send a message to istock/getty.

Can you please post a link to a statement from him to support your view?

Blammo · « **Reply #270 on:** February 13, 2013, 01:05 »

Hmmmmmm nope nothing

Amanda_K · « **Reply #271 on:** February 13, 2013, 01:05 »

Sorry ouchie but that sounds a bit tin-foil hat to me, and it's insulting not only to Sean but to the intelligence of everyone who participated. The once thing that causes people to love/hate Sean Locke is his brutal honesty. He's been telling like it is, everyone's feelings be damned, since the early 2000's. If he had manipulative/politically minded motives he wouldn't have gotten involved at all, seeing as his iStock income supported his family. All I see is someone who stood up to a nasty corporation that is past it's prime, and got punished for it. He's being made an example of. Bullies will always try to silence those that scare them. That's all this is.

What I find really interesting, is that the people who were most vocal in that February 2nd thread (to the point of being fanatical and quite frankly abrasive to those on fence or who disagreed,) remain in the Getty family. As several other people have pointed out, there is a nicely organized list on Google docs that any iStock/Getty admin can access, with the usernames of everyone who stated they were participating, so if that was the only motivation I'd expect quite a few other would be gone by now.

On a personal note, Sean, I remember getting a good chuckle out of all the ruffled feather the first few months you were on the iStock forums, back when things were turning from hobby to real potential. Watching you prosper and push limits was inspiring. You'll obviously be more than fine wherever you go with your talent and business sense. Good luck, and a sincere thanks for always being real.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #272 on:** February 13, 2013, 01:06 »

I posted a comment there - it was just an ugly slug-fest of "I hate microstock" and "burn the witch".

"Talk about people unclear on the concept!

Most of these comments are tired old rants about something completely unrelated to Getty's 30-day notice of a contract termination. Any Getty photographer could have been the lucky recipient of this scummy move on Getty's part.

Sean Locke didn't invent microstock and it makes no sense to kitchen sink all your issues with it into comments on this article. Can you not see that it could also be Getty photographers you "approve" who could be next?

The enemy here is Getty Images - direct your ire at them. Don't be so lost in your delight that someone from microstock is getting a raw deal that you lose sight of the bigger picture."

ouchie · « **Reply #273 on:** February 13, 2013, 01:08 »

Quote from: Mars on February 13, 2013, 01:04

Quote from: ouchie on February 13, 2013, 00:48
this is what im saying, he she said it better then me:

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Quote from: bokehgal on Yesterday at 14:48

It appears Sean wrote a script to help a lot of his competition remove themselves from his game.

Sadly for him that act of trying to be clever backfired and blew up in his face and then ended up earning him a microstock Darwin Award instead.

I guess he is a bit shocked by it all because he was just trying to help, right?

There is something to be said for keeping your head down, not stoking the fire, nor pissing off your boss if you still want to keep your job.

Sean wrote a script because that's what he does. He's written many scripts, many in iStock's favour. He wrote that script because there was a demand for deleting files in a hurry rather than one by one. How do you know somebody didn't ask him to write that script? Or maybe he got frustrated watching people struggle to delete their files so he helped them out. Deleting files one at a time is a joke, particularly in this instance where leaving files at iStock is a huge risk.

'Pissing off his boss'? lol Sean is Sean's boss. iStock was never Sean's boss and I don't believe Sean has sacked himself from his own company. What's this ridiculous notion that Sean is out of a job? His contract with his AGENT who sold HIS files that he produced is terminated. He's not going to fall apart. His files will be sold elsewhere and he'll probably make more money than before.

Seriously, go have a lie down and come back when you've thought about what you've just written. If you really believe that this script had that much of an impact on people's decisions to delete files or to leave iStock, then you might need to lie down and think some more.

People's reaction had nothing to do with a stupid script... it had everything to do with the Google/Getty deal that has the potential to ends people's careers.

YOu do know the above is a quote from someone else?

ouchie · « **Reply #274 on:** February 13, 2013, 01:09 »

Quote from: MichaelJayFoto on February 13, 2013, 01:04

Quote from: ouchie on February 12, 2013, 23:42
The same one that manipulated/used you and me to send a message to istock/getty.

Can you please post a link to a statement from him to support your view?

dont understand?

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