Author Topic: sjlocke was just booted from iStock (Read 128436 times)

MichaelJayFoto · « **Reply #325 on:** February 13, 2013, 10:52 »

Quote from: ouchie on February 13, 2013, 10:32

I guess my problem is having an opinion that does not follow the brainless masses.
im blessed with that problem and hope it never goes away.
is that the definition of troll--someone who does not agree with you? silly.
the vast majority of ppl are so very ignorant--no wonder all these co. take advatage of you.
think for yourselves, dont go with the flow

I'd say telling everyone who doesn't share your opinion to be part of the "brainless masses" is what qualifies you as a troll.

Pixart · « **Reply #326 on:** February 13, 2013, 10:56 »

Quote from: Stocktard on February 13, 2013, 06:57

Quote from: mattdixon on February 13, 2013, 06:34
If you guys are really all so good why don't leave microstock and join Getty RF/RM ~~or Corbis~~ in droves ?

You might think we are talentless but I assure you we are not that stupid.

rubyroo · « **Reply #327 on:** February 13, 2013, 11:07 »

Quote from: caspixel on February 13, 2013, 10:46

He's not Jesus, LOL.

He isn't? Dang.

<Removing picture of Sean from my microstock messiah shrine>

JPSDK · « **Reply #328 on:** February 13, 2013, 11:07 »

It is getting a bit personal and confused here with talk about sinister motives, the usual conspiracies and wishfull thinking and intrepretations based on hear say or guessing.

That not neccesary.
Its not neccesary to be pro or con. We are neither celebrating gods here nor demeaning them. We are all humans.
It is more important to look at the facts and the fact is that Sean was booted, and thats what the thread is about, not RM contra Micro and not if someone asumes he had sinister motives. Thats quite an insult, in fact.

The really interesting thing here is why they booted him, and I think that is clear now.
Then of course which future oppertunities it might lead to for both him and us.
And that we yet have to see.

mlwinphoto · « **Reply #329 on:** February 13, 2013, 11:08 »

Quote from: mattdixon on February 13, 2013, 07:16

Quote from: Stocktard on February 13, 2013, 06:57
If you guys are really all so good why don't leave microstock and join Getty RF/RM or Corbis in droves ?

I've got work on Getty and i've got RM work on Alamy, micro income has outstripped both by a wide margin. My work on Getty ended up in the Google drive deal given away for free, I got $12.

I don't get it, whats so earth shatteringly amazing about the trad agencies? You seem to think the work there is of a higher standard, better protected and more profitable. All a fallacy in my experience.

All a fallacy in my experience also. I was with Alamy for about 2 years and Getty House for about a year before leaving both and putting everything with iStock. I made more $ in the first 4 months at iStock than I did at Alamy and Getty combined. I am also seeing a higher return per sale with iStock than I did with the majority of my RM sales with Getty.....ever hear of Premium Access??

loop · « **Reply #330 on:** February 13, 2013, 11:17 »

Quote from: Stocktard on February 13, 2013, 06:57

If you guys are really all so good why don't leave microstock and join Getty RF/RM or Corbis in droves ?

If your are so good... why don't join micro agencies? Provided you can pass the initial admission quality test, of course...

ouchie · « **Reply #331 on:** February 13, 2013, 11:54 »

Quote from: MichaelJayFoto on February 13, 2013, 10:52

Quote from: ouchie on February 13, 2013, 10:32
I guess my problem is having an opinion that does not follow the brainless masses.
im blessed with that problem and hope it never goes away.
is that the definition of troll--someone who does not agree with you? silly.
the vast majority of ppl are so very ignorant--no wonder all these co. take advatage of you.
think for yourselves, dont go with the flow

I'd say telling everyone who doesn't share your opinion to be part of the "brainless masses" is what qualifies you as a troll.

Im done whats that saying..........you cant fix stupid", sheep.

runamock · « **Reply #332 on:** February 13, 2013, 12:00 »

OK! Important and interesting matters going on at the moment – don’t really want another thread locked!

Stocktard · « **Reply #333 on:** February 13, 2013, 12:02 »

no pain no gain.

RM is a very different market, different rules, different requirements and it takes a long time to see stable results.

if you failed you simply didnt do your homework.

blaming Getty for poor sales is an oxymoron unless by mistake you specialized in a niche that sells zero on Getty, in any case you can only blame youself.

as for Alamy, their top individual sellers claim to have 50-100 sales per month and if you see their images it's stuff that i would probably be shy posting on Flickr, and yet they did their homework especially about keywording and that's the moral of the whole story.

if you guys expect to try this or to try that and seeing booming results in a few months you will fail not only at RM but also in pretty much any other business, clearly you got the foot in micros because of instant results and quick sales and the whole community/drama/soap-opera around it, but it means nothing in the long run, once micro will radically change or cease to exist you'll find yourself unemployable and your photos unsellable.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #334 on:** February 13, 2013, 12:03 »

Quote from: ouchie on February 13, 2013, 10:32

the vast majority of ppl are so very ignorant--no wonder all these co. take advatage of you.
think for yourselves, dont go with the flow

looking at your previous posts here at MSG I see you are in the same agencies as we all are also, can you tell us which agencies you are working with?

PixelBytes · « **Reply #335 on:** February 13, 2013, 12:13 »

This thread has really brought some mean nasty trolls out from under their rocks.

Have to admit I am shocked at the amount of hostility directed at Sean from people who don't even know him.

rubyroo · « **Reply #336 on:** February 13, 2013, 12:19 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on February 13, 2013, 12:13

This thread has really brought some mean nasty trolls out from under their rocks.

Have to admit I am shocked at the amount of hostility directed at Sean from people who don't even know him.

I don't think it has much to do with Sean really. It's just hostility looking for a new home.

Microbius · « **Reply #337 on:** February 13, 2013, 12:21 »

Yes, there's a lot of agendas here. People that are generally anti micro lashing out and one person who has had lots of accounts here, and always ends each incarnation the same way, calling everyone sheep and idiots. Real shame it had to happen on a thread about such a serious topic.

ouchie · « **Reply #338 on:** February 13, 2013, 12:29 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on February 13, 2013, 12:03

Quote from: ouchie on February 13, 2013, 10:32
the vast majority of ppl are so very ignorant--no wonder all these co. take advatage of you.
think for yourselves, dont go with the flow

looking at your previous posts here at MSG I see you are in the same agencies as we all are also, can you tell us which agencies you are working with?

most of them--im just not a fanboy of anyone of them.
well not getty or istock anymore. i deleted may accts cause u cant recover once you image is given for free!!!!!

i know they all are ripping us off, but we have created them, by accepting there tos. including me.
and i dont go around praising one over the other. i dont see this one as good and this one as bad and this one as in the middle. they are all ripping us off. some more then other.

i dotn go around sayig things like SS can i become exlusivecause i love you. they are the same the want to give less to me so they can take more.

and btw:ss is the worst-with the subs they have devalued our photos the most. but what do we do...we praise them caus the rep 40-60% of our stock incom. its our fault! dont praise them just take the $ and run cause there is no ther option.

if there is one thing i want to get across is they are all out to rip you off, so stop praising any of them.

even this new stokcsy or whatever coming out now from the creator of istock. he put us in this mess in the first place. he sold out to getty just like we sell out everyday when we upload our photos! re stoksy, i do not belive it will be for everyone. it will be for the chosen few, the big ports? and how long till he sells out again?

trust no one

ouchie · « **Reply #339 on:** February 13, 2013, 12:35 »

Quote from: PixelBytes on February 13, 2013, 12:13

This thread has really brought some mean nasty trolls out from under their rocks.

Have to admit I am shocked at the amount of hostility directed at Sean from people who don't even know him.

no hostility is directed a sean, i responding to the events that have transpired.

and--you know him, you hang out and have a beer after a shoot? do you?

i dont need to know someone personaly to make a judgment call on his actions. 1+1=2

we already covered that troll def. if you dont agree with the masses you are a troll.

mynameis · « **Reply #340 on:** February 13, 2013, 12:39 »

Quote from: ouchie on February 13, 2013, 12:29

most of them--im just not a fanboy of anyone of them.
well not getty or istock anymore. i deleted may accts cause u cant recover once you image is given for free!!!!!

Well, you sound as a very bitter person ready to bark or bite at anything that passes by you.

sharpshot · « **Reply #341 on:** February 13, 2013, 12:43 »

And someone that ignores facts if there's an opportunity to attack someone. Classic troll behaviour.

ouchie · « **Reply #342 on:** February 13, 2013, 12:44 »

Quote from: Microbius on February 13, 2013, 12:21

Yes, there's a lot of agendas here. People that are generally anti micro lashing out and one person who has had lots of accounts here, and always ends each incarnation the same way, calling everyone sheep and idiots. Real shame it had to happen on a thread about such a serious topic.

if u are reffering to me:

i have not had losts of accts here. i fairly recently changed my name to protect myself from the micros once i started critisising them.

i guess im anti micro, you could say that. but i go on using them as much as i can. you should do the same.

what else can one say...sheep dont think they follow each other in packs, to the point of falling of a cliff together!
if anything im have been the most helfull person on here trying to ope ou eyes to the posibility of alterior motives and to the fact theat the micrs ar not you friend!

ouchie · « **Reply #343 on:** February 13, 2013, 12:46 »

Quote from: mynameis on February 13, 2013, 12:39

Quote from: ouchie on February 13, 2013, 12:29
most of them--im just not a fanboy of anyone of them.
well not getty or istock anymore. i deleted may accts cause u cant recover once you image is given for free!!!!!

Well, you sound as a very bitter person ready to bark or bite at anything that passes by you.

you are right! i am bitter and sad at the events going on in the last few years with the micros and our actions!
i just want ppl to understand they are not on you side. thats it.

ouchie · « **Reply #344 on:** February 13, 2013, 12:46 »

Quote from: sharpshot on February 13, 2013, 12:43

And someone that ignores facts if there's an opportunity to attack someone. Classic troll behaviour.

ou are reffering to what?

Stocktard · « **Reply #345 on:** February 13, 2013, 12:52 »

So, now that your most vocal cheerleader got the boot and that istock/getty shown their real mask you're all horrified and hiding here like scared puppies.

You were led to believe you were an asset for istock, that they cared about their exclusives, they even invented a sort of aristocracy dividing you in diamonds, rubins, silver, whatever other virtual BS medal of honour.

And suddenly, reality sets in, and with the time of a quick phone calls your whole anti-istock rebellion got crushed and many of you are now losing sleep at the idea of receiving the final email from Getty and being banned as well.

Dont complain if "trolls" like us come back here for a good laugh from time to time, you guys at least are entertaining, sort of like watching a reality show or a soap opera.

mlwinphoto · « **Reply #346 on:** February 13, 2013, 12:54 »

Quote from: Stocktard on February 13, 2013, 12:02

no pain no gain.

RM is a very different market, different rules, different requirements and it takes a long time to see stable results.

if you failed you simply didnt do your homework.

blaming Getty for poor sales is an oxymoron unless by mistake you specialized in a niche that sells zero on Getty, in any case you can only blame youself.

I'm assuming this is directed, in part, to me. Something you don't know is that I was in RM for 20 years prior to joining up with iStock. In that time I paid off my mortgage and am putting my kid through college, in large part with my previous RM income.
In case you haven't done your homework, RM isn't what it used to be. Average sales of $500-$1000, which I was seeing frequently several years ago, are now a rarity. I'm not going to get into the reasons for this decline and whose to blame but part of that blame can be directed at stock agencies such as Getty.
Look at the Getty forums over the past several months; lots of contributors complaining about poor sales and lower-than-micro royalties.
You go right ahead and continue in your RM fantasy world while it lasts....my guess is that the micros will be standing long after the traditional agencies are gone.

mynameis · « **Reply #347 on:** February 13, 2013, 13:01 »

Quote from: Stocktard on February 13, 2013, 12:52

Dont complain if "trolls" like us come back here for a good laugh from time to time, you guys at least are entertaining, sort of like watching a reality show or a soap opera.

Are you sure your name is not misspelled, Stockturd?

ouchie · « **Reply #348 on:** February 13, 2013, 13:03 »

Quote from: mynameis on February 13, 2013, 13:01

Quote from: Stocktard on February 13, 2013, 12:52
Dont complain if "trolls" like us come back here for a good laugh from time to time, you guys at least are entertaining, sort of like watching a reality show or a soap opera.
Are you sure your name is not misspelled, Stockturd?

and this is the brain power that got us hear in the first place. when you cant defend yourself start calling ppl names, nice.

sharpshot · « **Reply #349 on:** February 13, 2013, 13:06 »

For the trolls, we've told you you've got all your facts wrong. Go and spend a week reading all the threads about the istock/Getty Google deal and D-Day, come back and apologise to all of us and Sean. Then you might get some respect.

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