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« Reply #125 on: September 17, 2010, 10:24 »
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I've posted in my blog that I will be removing my portfolio from IS if the 20% minimum royalty is not restored. It's not financially workable for me to make less on an image than I would make with SS.

I've also stopped uploading, removed myself from all programs that I can opt out of, and started to delete images. Most are dollar bin images that weren't getting sales anyway. I don't want to be to rash so I'm giving them amble time to correct their mistake. If the mistake is not corrected by my next payout then I will call for a payout and to close my account.

"their mistake"  -- I don't think it's a mistake. they were serious about that.  I really don't see them backtracking on this one. 


« Reply #126 on: September 17, 2010, 10:36 »
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"their mistake"  -- I don't think it's a mistake. they were serious about that.  I really don't see them backtracking on this one. 

I don't see them backtracking either but it was a 'mistake'. They just don't realise it __ yet.

« Reply #127 on: September 17, 2010, 10:45 »
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How is it you, as an independent, had dollar bin images? Just curious; did they used to let everybody participate in that?
Apparently. I had about 40 in there too. I deleted all of them plus those with less than 2 sales after 3 years. Not a big loss since those images were mostly utter crap, or similars of which the "better" version sold.

« Reply #128 on: September 17, 2010, 11:03 »
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If anybody is interested: I have created a page at facebook that's called "Stock contributors against proposed royalty changes" (you cant use the word istock in the name...). I don't know yet what exactly to do with it, but i'm open to suggestions. I figured if the protest would only be visible in the istock forums, then we wouldn't be heard.


Sort of ironic that to join the page you have to click on "LIKE" which is the opposite of what we're actually feeling here.
This is the page I'm assuming:  http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stock-contributors-against-proposed-royalty-changes/118614061526639

Welcome to MSG by the way...

« Reply #129 on: September 17, 2010, 11:35 »
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yes, it is. people don't seem to be that interested in it, though...

« Reply #130 on: September 17, 2010, 12:45 »
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"their mistake"  -- I don't think it's a mistake. they were serious about that.  I really don't see them backtracking on this one. 

I don't see them backtracking either but it was a 'mistake'. They just don't realise it __ yet.

good point.  :)

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #131 on: September 17, 2010, 13:11 »
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How is it you, as an independent, had dollar bin images? Just curious; did they used to let everybody participate in that?
Apparently. I had about 40 in there too. I deleted all of them plus those with less than 2 sales after 3 years. Not a big loss since those images were mostly utter crap, or similars of which the "better" version sold.
There was a time when exclusives were invited to nominate ten of their files to the DB.
However, before and after that, there have been movements whereby pics that hadn't sold in a certain timescale were removed to the DB. IIRC, we were informed when it happened so that we could deactivate our files if we didn't want them in the DB.

« Reply #132 on: September 17, 2010, 21:57 »
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I've stopped uploading
I've looked into self-hosting stock photos on my site. K-tools PhotoStore looks pretty slick.
I have been researching whether my exclusive contract is legally valid. With the new agency files being sold all over the place (and as Exclusive content) imStuck has possibly breached the exclusive contract.    
I am considering opting out of Extended Licenses. Is there any reason to stay Opted In?
On Dec. 31 I'll decide whether it's worth it for me to keep my crown and files or move them elsewhere. By then I'm sure things will be more clear and there will be new opportunities. I'm quite confident that contributors will find some new, creative solutions to make money on stock images. Be that on imStuck or elsewhere  :)    
« Last Edit: September 17, 2010, 22:07 by Case »

« Reply #133 on: September 18, 2010, 06:08 »
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I decided to start removing some images now.  Will get my portfolio much smaller by January 1st, so it will be quicker to remove after the commission cut.

« Reply #134 on: September 18, 2010, 06:11 »
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^ Surely, if you intend to remove it anyway, you can just tell iStock to cancel your account.

Why do all the work of deactivating files individually?

« Reply #135 on: September 18, 2010, 06:53 »
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My friend from my creative network just sent me a message that he is canceling his account. It's Ralf from Germany. He is not exclusive and he has over 1200 files.

« Reply #136 on: September 18, 2010, 07:56 »
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I will quit uploading there and delete some of my best selling files....
It takes more time to upload at Istock than on other agencies and they do not accept files that were accepted by the other big companies. Their partnerprogram sucks with a $ .25 for subscription commission.
Only if they raise the commission to a normal level I will consider uploading @ Istock again.

« Reply #137 on: September 18, 2010, 08:36 »
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^ Surely, if you intend to remove it anyway, you can just tell iStock to cancel your account.

Why do all the work of deactivating files individually?
I can't afford to lose all my istock income in one go or I would of gone before now.  Will have to take a slow exit, building up my earnings on other sites.

« Reply #138 on: September 18, 2010, 08:48 »
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^ Surely, if you intend to remove it anyway, you can just tell iStock to cancel your account.

Why do all the work of deactivating files individually?
I can't afford to lose all my istock income in one go or I would of gone before now.  Will have to take a slow exit, building up my earnings on other sites.
Of course!

Every of us need to try to redirect customers to sites where we can get more money for our work... That will be slow process but useful...
« Last Edit: September 18, 2010, 17:25 by borg »

« Reply #139 on: September 18, 2010, 09:01 »
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^  I can see you'd need to build up the income elsewhere, yes.

But in that case, why not just leave your portfolio on iStock until you're ready to go?  Deactivating bit by bit just seems like unnecessary work, as you have to do it one at a time.  Surely you'd do better to spend the time uploading elsewhere?

« Reply #140 on: September 18, 2010, 09:31 »
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^  I can see you'd need to build up the income elsewhere, yes.

But in that case, why not just leave your portfolio on iStock until you're ready to go?  Deactivating bit by bit just seems like unnecessary work, as you have to do it one at a time.  Surely you'd do better to spend the time uploading elsewhere?

I think the most convenient plan would be to leave images on IS while some other source of income replaces it completely, and only then delete everything from IS. This way we could "bridge" the gap in earnings.

lisafx

« Reply #141 on: September 18, 2010, 09:55 »
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I think the most convenient plan would be to leave images on IS while some other source of income replaces it completely, and only then delete everything from IS. This way we could "bridge" the gap in earnings.

Agree.  This is the smart way to go for people who rely heavily on their Istock income.  For people who don't, there is no great loss in removing images now. 

« Reply #142 on: September 18, 2010, 10:01 »
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Complacency.  If you do nothing at all now, you will slowly adjust to the idea, and decide that maybe it isn't all that bad after all.  That is human nature and what istock is counting on.

« Reply #143 on: September 18, 2010, 10:04 »
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If you delete some of your port now, it will stick in your head better that there was a significant enough problem that it demanded action.

Why not take the opportunity to cull slow/non sellers and subpar images?

« Reply #144 on: September 18, 2010, 10:06 »
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@Gannet,
are you somewhat worried independents are not leaving fast enough?
Giving us a helping hand on our way out?
I would think twice before offering such advice.


Your agency has made me 4 dollars this month. Compared to the last few months, that's actually a solid improvement. Gotta give credit to Istock, they're getting better!
Don't worry about ways to faster delete ports. We know them all right.

« Reply #145 on: September 18, 2010, 10:07 »
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If you delete some of your port now, it will stick in your head better that there was a significant enough problem that it demanded action.

Why not take the opportunity to cull slow/non sellers and subpar images?

Yep.  That's just what I'm doing.  Deleting a few every day, starting with the Dollar Bin.  I'll be done with those and on to the main collection by the time the royalty cut goes into effect.  If enough of us do it, maybe someone will notice.  If not, I'll feel better about not taking this outrage lying down.  That's something too.

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #146 on: September 18, 2010, 10:11 »
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If you delete some of your port now, it will stick in your head better that there was a significant enough problem that it demanded action.

Why not take the opportunity to cull slow/non sellers and subpar images?
Unfortunately, that won't set iStock worrying.

« Reply #147 on: September 18, 2010, 10:28 »
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Complacency.  If you do nothing at all now, you will slowly adjust to the idea, and decide that maybe it isn't all that bad after all.  That is human nature and what istock is counting on.

I can't agree with this fully. First because I already deleted 119 files that were bringing me most money, and second because I don't forget so easily when someone screws me. I would rather upload to all sites that were poor sellers from the beginning, because I know what to expect, than to sites who clearly showed me that I am a sucker.

« Reply #148 on: September 18, 2010, 11:14 »
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Sue, it may not set them worrying, but are you really concerned with their worrying at this point?  It sounds like you are still expecting them to about-face on this.  They are too deeply invested in their new strategy, and they wouldn't have started in on it so drastically if they weren't flat out required to do so.

Anyone who is hoping that anything they do is going to change iStock's mind is missing the point.  This isn't about changing minds anymore, this is about who you feel comfortable doing business with.

Don't be the battered spouse who stays.

« Reply #149 on: September 18, 2010, 11:19 »
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Sue, it may not set them worrying, but are you really concerned with their worrying at this point?  It sounds like you are still expecting them to about-face on this.  They are too deeply invested in their new strategy, and they wouldn't have started in on it so drastically if they weren't flat out required to do so.

Anyone who is hoping that anything they do is going to change iStock's mind is missing the point.  This isn't about changing minds anymore, this is about who you feel comfortable doing business with.

Don't be the battered spouse who stays.

This is exactly how I feel. I am not concerned about istock any more. I will do what's best for me. I, too, think the strategy of removing subpar and non-movers now and over the next couple of months is a good exit strategy. Those same images I am deleting may actually be making money somewhere else, so I don't see any great loss in deleting them. Doing a few a day seems less painful than waiting until Jan. 1 and then being stressed about taking 800 images down.


 

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