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gillian vann

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« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2013, 19:27 »
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^ ha! I was worried that you'd want to be my friend now. :P


ShadySue

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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2013, 03:33 »
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Hey, where are all the SS fans? You've been missing a trick.
SS does this so much better.
I'm not sure when last I went onto an individual file page on SS, but being astonished to discover that they didn't have a description, I hit on a random image there and saw that there are two horizontal strips, one being similars from the same contributor, which is ABOVE another strip of similars from the site as a whole.
So if someone is a clean keyworder, there's a better chance that their own similars are in fact 'similar', so the results are more relevant.
Downside is that the page layout is even more cluttered and ugly. (IMO)

cuppacoffee

« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2013, 06:26 »
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DT does the same thing - strip of 5 small images underneath the chosen image's thumbnail "more stock photos from contributor's portfolio" and another strip of 5, "more similar images of xxxxx (title of image)." Clean and unobtrusive with title, description and keywords,which all factor into search. Yes, if they are all keyworded the same chances are that the series will appear in the 5 "more stock photos from contributor's portfolio." When uploading you only need to add or change a word here and there to keep the same keywords in each of the series. They seem to be accepting more similars. Actually, they seem to accepting almost everything submitted these days.

« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2013, 09:23 »
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Has to be one of the worst ideas anyone over there has had.

So everyone else does it and it's ok, but IS does it and it's the worst idea ever? :)

ShadySue

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« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2013, 09:31 »
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Has to be one of the worst ideas anyone over there has had.

So everyone else does it and it's ok, but IS does it and it's the worst idea ever? :)
I didn't know everyone else did it until I looked on SS. It's still ugly, but they implement it better.
NB, I didn't say it was THE worst, and I didn't say 'ever'. Selling full frame, full size images for cents is IMO worse, e.g. SS, TS etc.

KB

« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2013, 17:27 »
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Has to be one of the worst ideas anyone over there has had.

So everyone else does it and it's ok, but IS does it and it's the worst idea ever? :)
It's not the worst idea ever, but it may be the worst implementation of this idea, ever.

- The similars are sometimes not even remotely related to the original file.

- Many IS contributors use the description field to show a link to a relevant lightbox or thumbs of their own similars. By placing the similars where IS did, it pushes the description information way down the page, usually below where most buyers would see it without scrolling. And why would they scroll if they don't know there's anything down there to see?

- I've checked several of my better selling files to see what thumbs appear. Despite having relevant similars, mine never seem to appear in the thumbs. And when I click through the files that do appear in the thumbs, it's almost like it's a daisy chain, with almost all the same files appearing in each file's similars.

I'm sure there are more reasons why this implementation sucks wind, but that's all I could come up with off the top of my head.

ShadySue

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« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2013, 17:36 »
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Both Getty and Shutterstock seem to have done okay without a description field.
Getty does have a description field, called 'Caption'.

KB

« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2013, 17:49 »
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Both Getty and Shutterstock seem to have done okay without a description field.
Getty does have a description field, called 'Caption'.
So no 'Title' field.

And it's limited to 255 characters, making it almost impossible to say anything meaningful in editorial files, since their required format often takes up easily 1/3 to 1/2 of the available space.

« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2013, 17:53 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 11:17 by Audi 5000 »

lisafx

« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2013, 18:44 »
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DT does the same thing - strip of 5 small images underneath the chosen image's thumbnail "more stock photos from contributor's portfolio" and another strip of 5, "more similar images of xxxxx (title of image)." Clean and unobtrusive with title, description and keywords,which all factor into search.

I absolutely agree.  DT does this much better than Istock.  They first list similars from my own portfolio and then show some from a general search of the title.  This presents the buyer with a nice range of options. 

But of course the reason Istock doesn't do that is because it isn't so much about serving buyers as it is serving up images Istock makes more profit on. 

Fortunately, the images I checked, the ones linked at the bottom are mostly terrible and often completely irrelevant. 

« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2013, 18:57 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 11:16 by Audi 5000 »

ShadySue

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« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2013, 19:14 »
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I do think the layout should use the whole screen though, doesn't everyone have a widescreen monitor now?
I don't; but maybe most buyers have.
Actually, even without a widescreen the thums don't fill the width.

Added: just checked on my phone: the thumbs seem to fit perfectly into the horizontal and vertical width.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2013, 19:20 by ShadySue »

cuppacoffee

« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2013, 22:57 »
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I see other frog photos from the photog when I click on the DT link listed. And it fills up my entire screen. I'm in Firefox 23, Mac OS X 10.8. Perhaps difference in browsers? Hope it's ok to show this, if not I will delete it as I don't want to publish something that any contributor doesn't want displayed. Aha, I signed out and a buyer sees something different when the link is clicked. If you are logged in you will see what I show, below. If you are not signed in you can click on the photog's name and it will take you to what is shown, below too. If you log in or if you click on the photogs name when not logged in you will find what I show. Looking around without signing in doesn't give the same results up front, just a general overview with buyer text for the casual browser. Lots of pages to click thru but you eventually get there. Confused yet?

« Last Edit: August 14, 2013, 23:19 by cuppacoffee »

wds

« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2013, 08:24 »
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Hey, where are all the SS fans? You've been missing a trick.
SS does this so much better.
I'm not sure when last I went onto an individual file page on SS, but being astonished to discover that they didn't have a description, I hit on a random image there and saw that there are two horizontal strips, one being similars from the same contributor, which is ABOVE another strip of similars from the site as a whole.
So if someone is a clean keyworder, there's a better chance that their own similars are in fact 'similar', so the results are more relevant.
Downside is that the page layout is even more cluttered and ugly. (IMO)

Interesting, just checked out SS, they have "same model" strip of images. Do they key on the same model release? How would they know otherwise?

Ron

« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2013, 10:15 »
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Of course you need description fields. The average designer is not an expert on all things. Not all photos are being marketed to the ignorant masses. It helps the designer sell the image to the client if he knows something about the image and has some words to go with it.

Both Getty and Shutterstock seem to have done okay without a description field. Alamy does not let us post links or embed content.

SS has a description field, its the only field they have.

Ron

« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2013, 10:18 »
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Hey, where are all the SS fans? You've been missing a trick.
SS does this so much better.
I'm not sure when last I went onto an individual file page on SS, but being astonished to discover that they didn't have a description, I hit on a random image there and saw that there are two horizontal strips, one being similars from the same contributor, which is ABOVE another strip of similars from the site as a whole.
So if someone is a clean keyworder, there's a better chance that their own similars are in fact 'similar', so the results are more relevant.
Downside is that the page layout is even more cluttered and ugly. (IMO)

Interesting, just checked out SS, they have "same model" strip of images. Do they key on the same model release? How would they know otherwise?
Yes, there is no other way.

lisafx

« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2013, 13:37 »
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I see other frog photos from the photog when I click on the DT link listed. And it fills up my entire screen.

Yep.  Seeing exactly the same thing here.  They do show frogs from other sellers, but they also have a whole row of similars from that photographer's port. 

Thanks for proving my point Cuppa :)


« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2013, 13:44 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 11:16 by Audi 5000 »

lisafx

« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2013, 13:49 »
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Tickstock, I am not a bit surprised that you are so satisfied with the way Istock does everything.  You are nothing if not consistent.

Glad to know all is right for you in your world :)

« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2013, 13:51 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 11:16 by Audi 5000 »

« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2013, 18:23 »
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I'm not going to hate it just cos it's iS.
Careful, with that kind of talk you won't make any friends around here.

You have to admit that we're seeing daft idea followed by even dafter idea and a complete inability to implement anything without a total balls up almost like they want the whole thing to cave in.

gillian vann

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« Reply #46 on: August 17, 2013, 18:49 »
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At least with Istock I can select the images I want to show, that's got to better than having Dreamstime do it for you right?
this is true. I can even add in images that aren't similar but complement my image. at least that amount of customisation still exists.

« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2013, 11:25 »
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What a horrible feature. Not the 'similar images' thing per se, but the placement is horrendous. At least place it at the bottom, below my description, name and lightboxes!

lisafx

« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2013, 13:01 »
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What a horrible feature. Not the 'similar images' thing per se, but the placement is horrendous. At least place it at the bottom, below my description, name and lightboxes!

Yes.  Exactly.

« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2013, 21:11 »
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Yes, for anyone who put a lot of time into links to lightboxes in the description this is bad news as the user has to scroll down to see the links.


 

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