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Agency Based Discussion => iStockPhoto.com => Topic started by: stvagna on July 17, 2014, 06:17
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Images of iStock exclusive contributor available on Shutterstock.
Stolen Images or Infringement of Exclusivity?
Halloween Pumpkin Lit
http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/jack-o-lantern-13225901 (http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/jack-o-lantern-13225901)
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-162813119/stock-photo-halloween-pumpkin-lit-isolated-on-a-white-background.html (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-162813119/stock-photo-halloween-pumpkin-lit-isolated-on-a-white-background.html)
Sombrero & Maracas
http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/sombrero-maracas-5773020 (http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/sombrero-maracas-5773020)
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-165270596/stock-photo-fiesta-hat-with-maracas-isolated-on-white-background.html (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-165270596/stock-photo-fiesta-hat-with-maracas-isolated-on-white-background.html)
Rolled Up Insurance Contract
http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/insurance-policy-8188602 (http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/insurance-policy-8188602)
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-195190043/stock-photo-rolled-up-insurance-contract-papers-isolated-on-white-background.html (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-195190043/stock-photo-rolled-up-insurance-contract-papers-isolated-on-white-background.html)
Graduation
http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/graduation-1359470 (http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/graduation-1359470)
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-144197947/stock-photo-black-graduation-hat-with-degree-isolated-on-white-background.html (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-144197947/stock-photo-black-graduation-hat-with-degree-isolated-on-white-background.html)
Red Heart Box of Chocolates
http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/valentine-s-day-candy-8312606 (http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/valentine-s-day-candy-8312606)
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-170539166/stock-photo-red-heart-box-of-chocolates-with-rose-isolated-on-white-background.html (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-170539166/stock-photo-red-heart-box-of-chocolates-with-rose-isolated-on-white-background.html)
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This looks like "inspiration" as opposed to same person. Dny59 is a huge player on Istock and has been for a long time. While I don't know him/her/them I doubt they would take derivatives and try to buck the odds. These aren't stolen either. They are clearly different images.
This is why contributors need uniqueness, images that are hard to copy. Things like you have posted are fairly easy to do, but their marketability is high, took that's why they get copied.
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Only inspiration ...
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Every single image on this SS portfolio looks like "inspired" from the same IS exclusive portfolio.
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Every single image on this SS portfolio looks like "inspired" from the same IS exclusive portfolio.
MegaPixel has only been on SS since 2013; which proves nothing, but might be slightly suspicious. Why not post on the SS thread?
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MegaPixel's portfolio has been removed lately from iStock.
It is still there on Thinkstock though:
http://www.thinkstockphotos.com/search/2/image?artist=Mega_Pixel (http://www.thinkstockphotos.com/search/2/image?artist=Mega_Pixel)
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MegaPixel's portfolio has been removed lately from iStock.
It is still there on Thinkstock though:
[url]http://www.thinkstockphotos.com/search/2/image?artist=Mega_Pixel[/url] ([url]http://www.thinkstockphotos.com/search/2/image?artist=Mega_Pixel[/url])
Yeah, it can take a while to get things on - or off - TS.
BTW, if you knew MP's port had been removed from iS, there wasn't any question of 'infringement of exclusivity'.
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This one should be harder to copy:
http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/golden-retriever-dog-with-sombrero-and-maraca-15902932?st=e1fe47f (http://www.istockphoto.com/photo/golden-retriever-dog-with-sombrero-and-maraca-15902932?st=e1fe47f)
Although I recognize the sombrero from Oriental Trading Company - where every Mom I know would order party favors - so no surprise it shows up a lot. Nothing like a sombrero made in China to say Cinco de Mayo It's truly a small world 8)
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Seems to me all inspirations from an idea..
The products themselves are very generic, like the pumpkin....
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Every single image on this SS portfolio looks like "inspired" from the same IS exclusive portfolio.
So what? You can only copyright the execution of a concept, not the concept itself. And exclusivity constrains the creator of the content, not anyone else who might find inspiration from it. These concepts are so generic and the executions different enough that I don't see a problem.
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MegaPixel's portfolio has been removed lately from iStock.
It is still there on Thinkstock though:
[url]http://www.thinkstockphotos.com/search/2/image?artist=Mega_Pixel[/url] ([url]http://www.thinkstockphotos.com/search/2/image?artist=Mega_Pixel[/url])
Yeah, it can take a while to get things on - or off - TS.
BTW, if you knew MP's port had been removed from iS, there wasn't any question of 'infringement of exclusivity'.
Not necessarily.... there could be lots of different possible explanations of this phenomenon, but the facts remain the same:
On 2013 someone started to upload series of images very similar to another particular existing exclusive portfolio.
Actually, every single image he/she uploaded appears to be very similar to the same IS exclusive portfolio both in terms of style, objects and post-processing technics.
On 2014 all these images suddenly disappeared from iStock.
But he/she continued to upload this stuff to all other agencies.
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There could be many explanations, but it looks like the most likely is that iS deemed MP's work to be too close to the other, and closed their port. But as others said, they are simple, isolated objects, so perhaps the 'inspiration' isn't strong enough to make a case for the other agencies to take them down.
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Weird.
These ports are so similar as they were made by the same person.
I think you should submit a request to SS to remove this content.
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Weird.
Indeed
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Weird.
These ports are so similar as they were made by the same person.
Could be another Yuri's style special deal.
Or it could be just one person copying images from a successful portfolio.
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"These ports are so similar as they were made by the same person.
Could be another Yuri's style special deal."
You can concoct conspiracies all day long, but I can absolutely guarantee you that this is not the case.
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"These ports are so similar as they were made by the same person.
Could be another Yuri's style special deal."
You can concoct conspiracies all day long, but I can absolutely guarantee you that this is not the case.
It's very depressing that you even have to respond to that kind of nasty and irresponsible trolling given your 100% credibility over many years. Though I can completely understand you wanting to respond.
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"These ports are so similar as they were made by the same person.
Could be another Yuri's style special deal."
You can concoct conspiracies all day long, but I can absolutely guarantee you that this is not the case.
I sincerely apologies for my irresponsible comment. I removed it from my post.
I think you should submit a request to SS to remove this content.
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Every single image on this SS portfolio looks like "inspired" from the same IS exclusive portfolio.
So what? You can only copyright the execution of a concept, not the concept itself. And exclusivity constrains the creator of the content, not anyone else who might find inspiration from it. These concepts are so generic and the executions different enough that I don't see a problem.
It can be as legal as you want (if it really is), but morally is dirty and low.
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Every single image on this SS portfolio looks like "inspired" from the same IS exclusive portfolio.
So what? You can only copyright the execution of a concept, not the concept itself. And exclusivity constrains the creator of the content, not anyone else who might find inspiration from it. These concepts are so generic and the executions different enough that I don't see a problem.
It can be as legal as you want (if it really is), but morally is dirty and low.
You have a weird sense of morality, and one I give no weight at all. Being first doesn't give you any special rights to an idea, any more than shouting FIRST gives your opinion primacy on a comment thread. But enjoy your moral high ground, while I ignore you in favor of less self-important proclamations.
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Every single image on this SS portfolio looks like "inspired" from the same IS exclusive portfolio.
So what? You can only copyright the execution of a concept, not the concept itself. And exclusivity constrains the creator of the content, not anyone else who might find inspiration from it. These concepts are so generic and the executions different enough that I don't see a problem.
It can be as legal as you want (if it really is), but morally is dirty and low.
I think you'll find there are few, if any, micros who would regard 'low morals' as an issue.
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Every single image on this SS portfolio looks like "inspired" from the same IS exclusive portfolio.
So what? You can only copyright the execution of a concept, not the concept itself. And exclusivity constrains the creator of the content, not anyone else who might find inspiration from it. These concepts are so generic and the executions different enough that I don't see a problem.
It can be as legal as you want (if it really is), but morally is dirty and low.
You have a weird sense of morality, and one I give no weight at all. Being first doesn't give you any special rights to an idea, any more than shouting FIRST gives your opinion primacy on a comment thread. But enjoy your moral high ground, while I ignore you in favor of less self-important proclamations.
What you say, tells a lot about you. As a person, and as a stock photographer (for you doesn't seem able to tell that is something more --much more-- than the naked idea).
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Only someone who never had an original idea would not understand why it is wrong to steal someone elses idea much less much of their portfolio.
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"Good artists copy, but great artists steal." - Pablo Picasso
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"Good artists copy, but great artists steal." - Pablo Picasso
So which one do you imagine you are?
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"Good artists copy, but great artists steal." - Pablo Picasso
So which one do you imagine you are?
Neither. I'd probably do better if I paid more attention to what sells for other people. But I'd rather shoot what makes me happy and let what sells sell. Still, I wouldn't fault someone who took inspiration from others' work as long as they stay within the bounds of copyright law and the agencies' own rules.