MicrostockGroup Sponsors


Author Topic: I've been cursed  (Read 9635 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

« on: January 18, 2015, 12:18 »
0
Hello guys,
First of all i follow what you all wrote in the forum, thank you all for your help.
2011 August i started work for stock photography and come long way.But my sales was low both sites and i decided to join Istock exclusive program,i've 1500 image but just 1 download last 20 days. I'm starting to believe that the damned  :) If problems related to me ,what do i need ?
I read that forum posts sales falling for everybody,i just worried about have I got a wrong decision by become exclusive.
Thank you


« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2015, 12:42 »
0
My main focus is video, but I also have a share of images. Most of my Image sales come from the partner program, which exclusives are not s part of. For video exclusivity works for me, but images no longer seems to make sense

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2015, 12:46 »
+7
You're not cursed, it's not personal - though it certainly can feel like it.
Many people are reporting the same thing this month.
Over halfway through the month and I'm at 1/10th the $$ I got last Jan, and have only 6 dls.
Remember, they made a concerted effort to change their credit buyers to be sub buyers, (after making a previous concerted effort to turn their credit buyers in to Thinkstock buyers) AND credit buyers can easily choose to filter out all our your non-essential files when searching.
It's worth investigating whether your genre/s might do better elsewhere.
I know mine wouldn't but plenty of indies report better overall totals after leaving exclusivity, though others don't.
Of course, independence takes much more time to upload to many agencies and keep tabs of what goes where. But balancing that might be the sense of freedom and lack of dependence on one outlet and their random whims.
It all depends on your port and your personal circumstances.
Plus you have to decide what you personally are prepared to put up with in terms of the cr*p all of the agencies throw at us.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2015, 12:54 by ShadySue »

« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2015, 12:54 »
+6
To begin with your keywords and descriptions are terrible.
Your descriptions aren't descriptive enough and I looks like you average 7 keywords (the few shots I looked at), not enough.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2015, 12:56 by PhotoBomb »

No Free Lunch

« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2015, 13:47 »
+8
Hello guys,
First of all i follow what you all wrote in the forum, thank you all for your help.
2011 August i started work for stock photography and come long way.But my sales was low both sites and i decided to join Istock exclusive program,i've 1500 image but just 1 download last 20 days. I'm starting to believe that the damned  :) If problems related to me ,what do i need ?
I read that forum posts sales falling for everybody,i just worried about have I got a wrong decision by become exclusive.
Thank you

You have been since 2011 so you know all the issues with being exclusive with iStock.  Going to iStock as 'Exclusive' is like someone going back to the Titanic after the ship is more than third quarters under water. Why on earth would you do this?  You better hope you're a very good swimmer  :-\


« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2015, 17:06 »
+1
You're not cursed, it's not personal - though it certainly can feel like it.
Many people are reporting the same thing this month.
Over halfway through the month and I'm at 1/10th the $$ I got last Jan, and have only 6 dls.
Remember, they made a concerted effort to change their credit buyers to be sub buyers, (after making a previous concerted effort to turn their credit buyers in to Thinkstock buyers) AND credit buyers can easily choose to filter out all our your non-essential files when searching.
It's worth investigating whether your genre/s might do better elsewhere.
I know mine wouldn't but plenty of indies report better overall totals after leaving exclusivity, though others don't.
Of course, independence takes much more time to upload to many agencies and keep tabs of what goes where. But balancing that might be the sense of freedom and lack of dependence on one outlet and their random whims.
It all depends on your port and your personal circumstances.
Plus you have to decide what you personally are prepared to put up with in terms of the cr*p all of the agencies throw at us.

I guess my expectations were too high about this exclusive program.I though i can earn more money ,maybe i'm tired to separate my power more agency.You are totally right in what you say,thank you.

To begin with your keywords and descriptions are terrible.
Your descriptions aren't descriptive enough and I looks like you average 7 keywords (the few shots I looked at), not enough.
When i start to work multiple agency i've add many description and keywords for same shoot,I'll try to fix that this problem.thank you

Hello guys,
First of all i follow what you all wrote in the forum, thank you all for your help.
2011 August i started work for stock photography and come long way.But my sales was low both sites and i decided to join Istock exclusive program,i've 1500 image but just 1 download last 20 days. I'm starting to believe that the damned  :) If problems related to me ,what do i need ?
I read that forum posts sales falling for everybody,i just worried about have I got a wrong decision by become exclusive.
Thank you

You have been since 2011 so you know all the issues with being exclusive with iStock.  Going to iStock as 'Exclusive' is like someone going back to the Titanic after the ship is more than third quarters under water. Why on earth would you do this?  You better hope you're a very good swimmer  :-\


I knew that, of course, many problems to be exclusive but as i told you my expectations were too high and I did not expect it would be in poor condition. Dont worry,I can do little more than hope :)
Thank you for answers 8)

« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2015, 18:38 »
+1
On the bright side, no golden handcuffs so you won't lose thousands if you spread your wings

« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2015, 20:33 »
+2
To begin with your keywords and descriptions are terrible.
Your descriptions aren't descriptive enough and I looks like you average 7 keywords (the few shots I looked at), not enough.

This is one of the first things one must learn to do correctly.  Getting great shots is meaningless if you have poor key wording and descriptions. This is what buyers use to find your images. Without good keywords, titles and descriptions (some agencies use all three in some weighted fashion for their search) one will have already failed.  My advice is to pay special attention in this area.

Uncle Pete

« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2015, 10:10 »
+1
While both of you are right, IS does not search Titles or Descriptions, only Keywords. And that's so screwed up sometimes, I search for words I know are in my images and don't find them. (I limit to 49 because SS has a 50 word limit)

How do buyers find images, if the person who makes them, can't. The search is so difficult and comes up with No Results Found for anything except an exact match. Small wonder IS sales are dropping.

Without looking, seven keywords is probably not enough for anything, unless it's very, very, specific and you want to only show for those searches? Every image needs to have as many related words as necessary to describe everything that's actually in the image or implied by the image.

More, just to have more, is just as bad, because it's a waste of time to promote something as what it Is Not. Buyers will get frustrated and bad searches don't help anyone.




To begin with your keywords and descriptions are terrible.
Your descriptions aren't descriptive enough and I looks like you average 7 keywords (the few shots I looked at), not enough.

This is one of the first things one must learn to do correctly.  Getting great shots is meaningless if you have poor key wording and descriptions. This is what buyers use to find your images. Without good keywords, titles and descriptions (some agencies use all three in some weighted fashion for their search) one will have already failed.  My advice is to pay special attention in this area.

« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2015, 09:33 »
+1
Stock photography is not my main job but i want to learn and understand.in the beginning just i upload many photos,i didn't search too much about how works stock photography statics,
I wonder if someone can explain it to me? What is the "best match" for search? As you said all about keywords,contributors must write right keywords,I try to understand something, what makes my images popular? what is important for best match? I saw many non-exclusive photographer to best match page in first line.Any idea about this? Still don't understand what is difference,7 right keywords or 49 semi-right keywords? for example blank T-shirt woman, right keywords is red,t-shirt,woman,isolated,white,fashion,blonde -but required keywords,already have in my 49 keywords.
I hope I explain my questions.
Thank you all for help

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2015, 10:39 »
+1
The algorithm for Best Match is a closely guarded secret and constantly changes, sometimes huge changes.
At this moment,'Best Match seems to have a large weighting on 'new'. For a long time, 'new' files were totally buried in the best match.

Various factors can apply to different degrees - sales, views, age, exclusive/indie, keywords, random, etc.
Sometimes indies are favoured in the best match, sometimes exclusives. Over the past year, the same algorithm doesn't seem to apply to all searches.
Semi-right keywords can actually negate your main keywords, but again, it depends on which algorithm is in use at any given time.

I haven't looked up the image you are talking about, but guessing (and I could be wrong) that your image is 'isolated on white', 'white' isn't a good keyword. However, you can have 'isolated on white', and 'white background', also isolated (as you had) and 'plain background'.

You don't need 50 keywords for most images. Sometimes I struggle to think of five, other than the generics, e.g. colour, photograph, horizontal, nobody (etc) which possibly no-one searches on. Usually I have between 10 and 25 including generics. Very occasionally I've got to 50 and had to cut generics, but really very seldom.

« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2015, 17:16 »
0
The algorithm for Best Match is a closely guarded secret and constantly changes, sometimes huge changes.
At this moment,'Best Match seems to have a large weighting on 'new'. For a long time, 'new' files were totally buried in the best match.

Various factors can apply to different degrees - sales, views, age, exclusive/indie, keywords, random, etc.
Sometimes indies are favoured in the best match, sometimes exclusives. Over the past year, the same algorithm doesn't seem to apply to all searches.
Semi-right keywords can actually negate your main keywords, but again, it depends on which algorithm is in use at any given time.

I haven't looked up the image you are talking about, but guessing (and I could be wrong) that your image is 'isolated on white', 'white' isn't a good keyword. However, you can have 'isolated on white', and 'white background', also isolated (as you had) and 'plain background'.

You don't need 50 keywords for most images. Sometimes I struggle to think of five, other than the generics, e.g. colour, photograph, horizontal, nobody (etc) which possibly no-one searches on. Usually I have between 10 and 25 including generics. Very occasionally I've got to 50 and had to cut generics, but really very seldom.

Thank you @ShadySue ,it was very helpful. 8)

« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2015, 20:59 »
+3
Stock photography is not my main job but i want to learn and understand.in the beginning just i upload many photos,i didn't search too much about how works stock photography statics,

If stock is not your main job then don't sweat it. Just concentrate on the main thing and if you get some sales consider it a bonus.

PZF

« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2015, 07:15 »
0
Have istock stats stopped updating or have I REALLY sold NOTHING for 5 days????
 :o

« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2015, 07:24 »
0
Last download was a few hours ago. Uploaded 100 images yesterday. Already online. Never saw them so fast.

PZF

« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2015, 10:33 »
+1
 ::)


 

Sponsors

Mega Bundle of 5,900+ Professional Lightroom Presets

Microstock Poll Results

Sponsors