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« Reply #325 on: November 08, 2013, 16:27 »
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There is some evidence that people who are doing well don't post in the iStock thread because they are doing well, at least a few people said that on this forum.

You'll never know until you open the box :-)

Hello Xanox. Back again, eh?


« Reply #326 on: November 08, 2013, 16:44 »
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there is also a new entry ANDRESR on istock exclusives

exclusive http://www.istockphoto.com/andresrimaging
no exclusive  http://www.istockphoto.com/andresr


Not surprised, good luck to Andres

Is that a real exclusive or the new kind of exclusive?  If he got the new kind of deal he'd be silly to turn it down.


Man, I wish we had been able to be image exclusive when I was there.

« Reply #327 on: November 08, 2013, 17:02 »
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There is some evidence that people who are doing well don't post in the iStock thread because they are doing well, at least a few people said that on this forum.

You'll never know until you open the box :-)

You won't know then, either :)

mlwinphoto

« Reply #328 on: November 08, 2013, 17:13 »
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there is also a new entry ANDRESR on istock exclusives

exclusive http://www.istockphoto.com/andresrimaging
no exclusive  http://www.istockphoto.com/andresr


Not surprised, good luck to Andres

Is that a real exclusive or the new kind of exclusive?  If he got the new kind of deal he'd be silly to turn it down.


Man, I wish we had been able to be image exclusive when I was there.


Me too, might have made it worth while.

« Reply #329 on: November 08, 2013, 17:15 »
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Andres' portfolio is still up on Shutterstock

http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery-1294p1.html

If he got the deal that Yuri did, doesn't that mean the SS portfolio will have to go?

Ron

« Reply #330 on: November 08, 2013, 17:18 »
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Its getting really messy, but I wonder how IS convinces these big players to jump ship, when IS is making a mess of things. There must be something going on we dont know.

« Reply #331 on: November 08, 2013, 17:19 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 01:08 by Audi 5000 »

Ron

« Reply #332 on: November 08, 2013, 17:23 »
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Here we go again, people need to remember that this board if full of non English speakers. How do I say it then? How do I phrase myself correctly, Mr. Tickstock, so that you can approve of my comment. How do I say someone jumps from one agency to another without implying the other agency is doing bad?

In case you have missed it, Shutterstock aint sinking, they are catching up with IS .

http://www.shutterstock.com/releases/110713.mhtml
« Last Edit: November 08, 2013, 17:26 by Ron »

« Reply #333 on: November 08, 2013, 17:29 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 01:08 by Audi 5000 »

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #334 on: November 08, 2013, 17:31 »
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there is also a new entry ANDRESR on istock exclusives

exclusive http://www.istockphoto.com/andresrimaging
no exclusive  http://www.istockphoto.com/andresr


Not surprised, good luck to Andres

Is that a real exclusive or the new kind of exclusive?  If he got the new kind of deal he'd be silly to turn it down.


Man, I wish we had been able to be image exclusive when I was there.

Are Yu-know-who's iS images exclusively there?

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #335 on: November 08, 2013, 17:32 »
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<idle speculation>Maybe Yu-know-who engineered Andres' Golden Hello and special deal so he wouldn't be competing in the same genre on price.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2013, 18:17 by ShadySue »

« Reply #336 on: November 08, 2013, 17:39 »
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Its getting really messy, but I wonder how IS convinces these big players to jump ship, when IS is making a mess of things. There must be something going on we dont know.

Surely the point is that they don't jump ship .... they stay aboard and get paid extra while still keeping most of their other income sources intact.

« Reply #337 on: November 08, 2013, 17:42 »
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Here we go again, people need to remember that this board if full of non English speakers. How do I say it then? How do I phrase myself correctly, Mr. Tickstock, so that you can approve of my comment. How do I say someone jumps from one agency to another without implying the other agency is doing bad?

In case you have missed it, Shutterstock aint sinking, they are catching up with IS very fast.

http://www.shutterstock.com/releases/110713.mhtml

I would say he decided to go exclusive, I'm sure he did his research (jump ship also means to make a quick decision). 

It is interesting that the top 2 best selling Shutterstock contributors (if Andresr is recognized as the #2) decided to go exclusive at a time when Shutterstock is bringing in record revenue and bigger profits.  I wonder what that means?


it means that iStock is paying a few millions up-front, maybe the ones they have been stealing from 2010 but aren't they in deep debt? I am sure that a few people/models oriented contributors must be quite happy having more competition ;D

anyway I find these changes quite amusing!

« Reply #338 on: November 08, 2013, 17:50 »
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« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 01:08 by Audi 5000 »

Ron

« Reply #339 on: November 08, 2013, 17:53 »
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Its getting really messy, but I wonder how IS convinces these big players to jump ship, when IS is making a mess of things. There must be something going on we dont know.

Surely the point is that they don't jump ship .... they stay aboard and get paid extra while still keeping most of their other income sources intact.
Well, Yuri did, We dont know about Andresr yet

« Reply #340 on: November 08, 2013, 17:56 »
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Here we go again, people need to remember that this board if full of non English speakers. How do I say it then? How do I phrase myself correctly, Mr. Tickstock, so that you can approve of my comment. How do I say someone jumps from one agency to another without implying the other agency is doing bad?

In case you have missed it, Shutterstock aint sinking, they are catching up with IS very fast.

http://www.shutterstock.com/releases/110713.mhtml

I would say he decided to go exclusive, I'm sure he did his research (jump ship also means to make a quick decision). 

It is interesting that the top 2 best selling Shutterstock contributors (if Andresr is recognized as the #2) decided to go exclusive at a time when Shutterstock is bringing in record revenue and bigger profits.  I wonder what that means?


Actually I'd say that the people 'jumping ship' are actually Istock themselves. It would seem that they've thrown out their own rule-book in a truly desperate attempt to turn things around. When a business takes such panic actions it is always bad news ... for them.

« Reply #341 on: November 08, 2013, 17:57 »
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I think you should hop on a train to MEXPO and ask these tough questions.  Get to the bottom of it!

why are you always trying to make me change the all microstock industry? aren't you doing so well yourself? go man, ah yep you don't enjoy cold places ;D

if they went exclusive without having a large bank deposit I think they must be nuts ;)

« Reply #342 on: November 08, 2013, 18:24 »
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Its getting really messy, but I wonder how IS convinces these big players to jump ship, when IS is making a mess of things. There must be something going on we dont know.

Surely the point is that they don't jump ship .... they stay aboard and get paid extra while still keeping most of their other income sources intact.

Exactly.  Gets exclusive royalties on the images you want them, be non-exclusive on everything else.  I mean, unless you're Yuri, then it's exclusive rates, lies to the buyers and distribution wherever you like.

« Reply #343 on: November 08, 2013, 18:27 »
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Its getting really messy, but I wonder how IS convinces these big players to jump ship, when IS is making a mess of things. There must be something going on we dont know.


Maybe IS has nothing to do with it.  SS could be making changes that make it less attractive for these HCV shooters to stay with SS.  Undercutting industry rates and royalties via BS and changing search results could make staying at SS less and less attractive.

Shutterstock Reports Third Quarter 2013 Financial Results
http://www.shutterstock.com/releases/110713.mhtml

Three Months Ended September 30 2012 & 2013       

29.7 Images in SS collection (end of period) 2013 divided by 25.4 Paid Downloads = an average of 1.1692 downloads per image in the SS collection and an increase of .0088 downloads per image from the same quarter in 2012
       
21.7 Images in SS collection (end of period) 2012 divided by 18.7 Paid Downloads = an average of 1.1604 download per image in the SS collection

Revenue for the quarter increased 41% from $42.3 million to $59.6 million for an increase from quarter to quarter of $17.3 million

Revenue per download increased from $2.26 in 2012 to $2.35 in 2013 or $0.09 per image.

Ron

« Reply #344 on: November 08, 2013, 18:34 »
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Thats a non argument, they signed a deal years ago when all they got was $0.25 cents. Now they get on average $2.35 and all of a sudden they are insulted and undersold. LOL. The problem is that they keep shooting the same old oversupplied people shots and their overhead is too much. How can you employ 100 people and keep shooting handshakes sustainable? Its their business model thats killing them, not Shutterstock.

« Reply #345 on: November 08, 2013, 18:35 »
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Maybe IS has nothing to do with it.  SS could be making changes that make it less attractive for these HCV shooters to stay with SS.  Undercutting industry rates and royalties via BS and changing search results could make staying at SS less and less attractive.

certainly not AndresR case, remember seeing a chart showing his monthly earnings and SS was doing 10x more than iStock (June 2013, https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1001493_10151676941274349_2125481793_n.jpg)

Ron

« Reply #346 on: November 08, 2013, 18:46 »
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Maybe IS has nothing to do with it.  SS could be making changes that make it less attractive for these HCV shooters to stay with SS.  Undercutting industry rates and royalties via BS and changing search results could make staying at SS less and less attractive.

certainly not AndresR case, remember seeing a chart showing his monthly earnings and SS was doing 10x more than iStock (June 2013, https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1001493_10151676941274349_2125481793_n.jpg)
They should post their overhead as well, otherwise it tells us nothing.


« Reply #347 on: November 08, 2013, 18:46 »
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Maybe IS has nothing to do with it.  SS could be making changes that make it less attractive for these HCV shooters to stay with SS.  Undercutting industry rates and royalties via BS and changing search results could make staying at SS less and less attractive.

certainly not AndresR case, remember seeing a chart showing his monthly earnings and SS was doing 10x more than iStock (June 2013, https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1001493_10151676941274349_2125481793_n.jpg)

I know quite a few contributors who have had massive drops since June 2013. Odd considering that overall; average downloads per image are up.

« Reply #348 on: November 08, 2013, 18:48 »
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Maybe IS has nothing to do with it.  SS could be making changes that make it less attractive for these HCV shooters to stay with SS.  Undercutting industry rates and royalties via BS and changing search results could make staying at SS less and less attractive.

certainly not AndresR case, remember seeing a chart showing his monthly earnings and SS was doing 10x more than iStock (June 2013, https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1001493_10151676941274349_2125481793_n.jpg)
They should post their overhead as well, otherwise it tells us nothing.

sure but that is "not relevant" for this discussion, he does 10x more $$ at SS so why going exclusive?

« Reply #349 on: November 08, 2013, 18:51 »
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Maybe IS has nothing to do with it.  SS could be making changes that make it less attractive for these HCV shooters to stay with SS.  Undercutting industry rates and royalties via BS and changing search results could make staying at SS less and less attractive.

certainly not AndresR case, remember seeing a chart showing his monthly earnings and SS was doing 10x more than iStock (June 2013, https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1001493_10151676941274349_2125481793_n.jpg)

I know quite a few contributors who have had massive drops since June 2013. Odd considering that overall; average downloads per image are up.

the ones that don't post their numbers? come on, we can all make up stuff just to try and get more from agencies, I don't think they hear but some may say they are doing poorly just to get attention, numbers only matter when we are indeed looking at them not hearing


 

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